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 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 2:09 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I will say that Ron Guidry pitched well tonight...wink

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 2:10 AM   
 By:   ANZALDIMAN   (Member)

I will say that Ron Guidry pitched well tonight...wink

Now I can go to sleep.

OvER AN out

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I think as a Yankee fan the only thing that has ever bothered me about the postseason series losses going back to the 95 ALDS is that I can't point to a single one where they were totally outplayed to the point where they had no chance of winning any of them. The 95 ALDS, 01 WS and 04 ALCS only required three more outs for a series victory. The 97 ALDS required just four more outs for a series victory. And both of these losses to Anaheim in 02 and this year, I think were series they could have won but for some bad pitching and lack of clutch hitting. That's not to take away from the teams that have won, but my point is that it would be easier to accept defeat if you're like say, San Diego, who had no chance against the Cardinals.

Any way, tomorrow I shall be watching the next DVD in the set of great 96-01 WS games, which is Game 3 of the 99 WS. Now what a contrast that was. You had spare part players like Chad Curtis and Jason Grimsley picking up the team at key moments to overcome a 5-0 defecit. And another key home run from the much maligned Chuck Knoblauch. I think the contrasts between the Yankee careers of A-Rod and Knoblauch are worth looking at, because we all know that Knoblauch as a Yankee was never the same player he was with Minnesota and had more regular season woes than you could have asked for, but the bottom line is that he always came through in the postseason, with his big homers in the 98 and 99 WS and knew how to fit in and give opportunities for the rest of the line-up. A-Rod by contrast has had flawless regular seasons and disastrous postseasons ever since he helped win the one division game against the Twins last year. There's no question that I would think of Chuck Knoblauch as a more worthy Yankee than I would A-Rod.

Anyway, that's just some random rambling from a Yankee fan who is disappointed but who at least unlike last year, is still full of pride for what once was. And a Houston-Chicago World Series will have special significance to me in that it will guarantee a Series matchup featuring three of the four Yankee starting pitchers from the 99 WS, and at least one of them will get another ring.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The last five years have been a marked contrast in terms of Yankee success in the postseason. The '96-'00 Yankee dynasty is getting to be a while ago. Cherish those years! I can recall arguing with a co-worker after the 1998 World Series that the Yankees (of the mid-to-late 90s) could stack up against any team in baseball history. He claimed the 1975-76 Reds were the finest. It was funny, me the vociferous Yankee-hater defending them to the hilt.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

The 98 Yankees have to be regarded as perhaps the best ever or no worse than top 3. Not just because of 114 wins but because now it's obvious how tough it is to win over three levels of postseason play. But the thing I'm most proud of about the 98 team is that in a year where every one focused on a home run chase that we now know was largely a fraud that stemmed from steroid use, not one player on the 98 Yankees hit more than 29 home runs. They were as flawless a team in executing the fundamentals as you'll ever see and they certainly surpass the 75-76 Reds by virtue of three straight championships over three levels of postseason play.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Donna   (Member)

Sorry, Eric, et. al.

I'm routing for the White Sox now, just to make this interesting for me.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   DOGBELLE   (Member)

Sorry, Eric, et. al.

I'm routing for the White Sox now, just to make this interesting for me.



IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU USE TO MUCH BLECH ON YOU RED SOX'S??


 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   DOGBELLE   (Member)

And congrats to DOGBELLE, who is now one post away from 100 on this thread!



THANK YOU ,THANK YOU,
TIMING IS EVERYTHING.


SO NOW IT'S TO SAY.

LET GO RANGERS.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2005 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

all the talking heads at ESPN and FOX are saying White Sox all the way. Angels up 3-2 atm, we'll see how this one turns out.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2005 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Looks like the umps blew it, though Pyrzinski was smart to try and make something from nothing and it paid off for the White Sox. Scioscia was a gentleman not to give the umpires hell for the call, too.

The Cardinals roll on as they down the Astros 5-3. No one's been talking about the Cards at all, but I'm sure they're remembering '04 and the ignominious end to their otherwise terrific season. They will probably win it all this year.

I almost forgot: Hey Anzaldiman, would you agree with me that Carlos Beltran was a big time bust for the Mets? The national press barely talked about that story all season, don't know how the New York press handled it, but it seemed to be the story no one wanted to talk about this year.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2005 - 2:07 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

That was such a horrible call by the umpires. They still deny blowing it! If the Angels lose this series this will be worse than donnie moore and 86.

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2005 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Not comparable at all to Donnie Moore IMO in terms of the impact. This is more comparable to Jeffrey Maier in the 96 ALCS affecting the outcome of that game (potentially) but too early to say it affects the outcome of the Series as a whole (ultimately, it wasn't Jeffrey Maier that explained why the Yankees blew away the Orioles the rest of the way).

 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2005 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That was such a horrible call by the umpires. They still deny blowing it! If the Angels lose this series this will be worse than donnie moore and 86.


Not comparable at all to Donnie Moore IMO in terms of the impact. This is more comparable to Jeffrey Maier in the 96 ALCS affecting the outcome of that game (potentially) but too early to say it affects the outcome of the Series as a whole (ultimately, it wasn't Jeffrey Maier that explained why the Yankees blew away the Orioles the rest of the way).

The Maier call was bad, but it pales in comparison to Don Denkinger's game six call at first base in the 1985 WS. The Cardinals would have wrapped up the title if not for that.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2005 - 2:45 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Not comparable at all to Donnie Moore IMO in terms of the impact. This is more comparable to Jeffrey Maier in the 96 ALCS affecting the outcome of that game (potentially) but too early to say it affects the outcome of the Series as a whole (ultimately, it wasn't Jeffrey Maier that explained why the Yankees blew away the Orioles the rest of the way).

Ah...yeah I gues your right, if the Angels can't win this thing because of that call, then they weren't good enough to win the series. It still was a terrible call though.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2005 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I've bought-out Lukas, fired the Sheriff, and am locking this thread. Plus you can all consider yourselves banned.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2005 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've bought-out Lukas, fired the Sheriff, and am locking this thread. Plus you can all consider yourselves banned.

I was just gonna praise the glorious absence of unwashed Europeans in this here thread...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2005 - 2:21 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

is there something wrong about following Baseball? It isn't even "America's pastime" anymore, sadly.

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2005 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Just a case of envy on their part that a thread about a truly great sport with a rich history can attract a more sustained conversation than any thread about their favorite sport ever will. smile

Even as I get over my misery about the exit of my Yankees from this postseason I'm still having a load of fun revisiting the glorious past of baseball history (all pre-2001 of course!).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2005 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

yankee fans are spoiled....lol We only have five division championships. 3, before the last 2. Im so glad disney sold the team to someone who cares more about winning than mickey mouse.

 
 Posted:   Oct 15, 2005 - 2:03 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Jon Garland was sharp tonight and the 5-2 score wasn't as close as it looked. Garland was dominant and had the Angels batters floundering. I'm much more interested in this series than the NLCS. I'm thinking White Sox in six games.

 
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