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 Posted:   Jul 10, 2015 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

@ JP- Lucas stole my childhood!!!!!

The "correct" phrase is "George Lucas raped my childhood." roll eyes

I don't know who exactly came up with that hideous saying but there is a rather putrid song with that title in the 'People Vs. George Lucas' documentary.


LOL, yeah that's taking it to far. Lucas didn't steal or rape my childhood. I still have fond memories of seeing Star Wars in the theater. Best memories of my childhood. (Though of course I do wish for unaltered HD versions of these films.)


Agreed. I have nothing but happy memories of the original trilogy. George Lucas , along with a handful of other creative icons from that time period, is one of the "architects" of my childhood. Personally speaking (and without getting into details), those years would have been a LOT tougher to get through without Star Wars (and Indy Jones, naturally).

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2017 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

"Jar-Jar is the key to all this"



This footage, the horrific auditions in which Jake Lloyd emerged triumphant, the "locker room"-like "pep rally" where a gutless Steven Spielberg tells George how awesome the clone robots are going to be, and lastly George himself watching footage and finally realizing it had all gone wrong. This is all so deeply disturbing. Did none of Lucas' many yes men have the intenstinal fortitude to tell George he was wrong?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2017 - 8:18 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

"Jar-Jar is the key to all this"



This footage, the horrific auditions in which Jake Lloyd emerged triumphant, the "locker room"-like "pep rally" where a gutless Steven Spielberg tells George how awesome the clone robots are going to be, and lastly George himself watching footage and finally realizing it had all gone wrong. This is all so deeply disturbing. Did none of Lucas' many yes men have the intenstinal fortitude to tell George he was wrong?


Han Solo's "delusions of grandeur" line from Jedi comes to mind. Of course none of this comes as a surprise. Lucas always wanted complete control. He famously self financed every film after Star Wars. Didn't use union workers, etc. His company was built on "yes men". It might have even been in the employee handbook!

I give Spielberg some slack. He was put in a awkward situation. Star Wars was Lucas's baby. If Lucas said, "Isn't my baby cute?", Spielberg isn't gonna come back with, "Looks like a turd!".

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2017 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Were they "yes men"? They always gave the impression of being dedicated to George's "vision."

Meaning they were "yes men", QED.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2017 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I heard George added thick mustaches to the robot cops in the THX1138 bluray. Gives it a retro 1970s period look.
Just think about all the sequels/prequels there would have been if he hadnt done Star Wars. THX1128, THX1148...

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2017 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Jar Jar Binks by Wesley Willis. (NSFW)

Wesley Willis (R.I.P.) was a genius!



I'm thinking of making this my ringtone.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Should George Lucas receive credit for attempting (yet failing) to try new things and by doing so, ignoring previous continuity in the prequel films? Do the new films "play it safe" and serve as mere fan service?

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

I take George Lucas prequel bashing over these pathetic re-inventions (ep7-9) in any galaxy, far, far away!
1-3 are perfection in my opinion!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

...THX098, THX099, THX100 VERSUS PREDATOR...

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Should George Lucas receive credit for attempting (yet failing) to try new things and by doing so, ignoring previous continuity in the prequel films? Do the new films "play it safe" and serve as mere fan service?

In my opinion kids growing up since the mid 80's have been robbed. I grew up with Star Trek, and Star Wars. They were original and had their own unique universe, characters, stories and ideas. I didn't grow up watching the "Next Generation" of reboots. I pity those that say, ST:TNG is their Star Trek. Their Star Trek should've been something original and new.

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Should George Lucas receive credit for attempting (yet failing) to try new things and by doing so, ignoring previous continuity in the prequel films? Do the new films "play it safe" and serve as mere fan service?

In my opinion kids growing up since the mid 80's have been robbed. I grew up with Star Trek, and Star Wars. They were original and had their own unique universe, characters, stories and ideas. I didn't grow up watching the "Next Generation" of reboots. I pity those that say, ST:TNG is their Star Trek. Their Star Trek should've been something original and new.


Please don't turn this into (yet another) Star Trek thread. It's bad enough that it's a Star WARS thread!

 
 Posted:   Dec 16, 2017 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Jar Jar Binks by Wesley Willis. (NSFW)

Wesley Willis (R.I.P.) was a genius!



I'm thinking of making this my ringtone.


smile

smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While reading over the various drivel in those two competing Last Jedi threads, it makes me wonder if there isn't a revisionist return to the Lucasian Prequellian Womb that Episodes I-III. I suppose some fans will take what George The Creator offers over something akin to bad fan fiction. I haven't seen Episodes VII and VIII, I'm merely going by the common criticisms of the new films.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

While reading over the various drivel in those two competing Last Jedi threads, it makes me wonder if there isn't a revisionist return to the Lucasian Prequellian Womb that Episodes I-III. I suppose some fans will take what George The Creator offers over something akin to bad fan fiction. I haven't seen Episodes VII and VII, I'm merely going by the common criticisms of the new films.

Drivel you say? Life would be boring without it! As far as your comments, some people love the spectacles for what they are, others like well constructed films. I could go into depth why subjectively 4&5 are the standouts. The other films in the series are simply not very good films, regardless what franchise they represent. I'm not into the, "I wish George kept doing them" camp. Oh, and your spot on regarding VII and VIII. So

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

...THXSPACE1999, THXODYSSEY2001, THX1180 VERSUS SUPERMAN...THXXXXX [ALL FEMALE REMAKE]...

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2017 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Has George Lucas commented on what he thinks of The Last Jedi?

Well of course he has!

https://www.inverse.com/article/39355-star-wars-last-jedi-george-lucas-opinion-review

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2019 - 7:58 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

A question for Star Wars experts:

Why did George Lucas move Return of the Jedi in a "childlike" direction? I thought I read somewhere it was because TESB was too dark, and that he, Lucas, also had young daughters, and as a result of this he wanted them to see more fluffy, violent characters (the Ewoks).

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2019 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

A question for Star Wars experts:

Why did George Lucas move Return of the Jedi in a "childlike" direction? I thought I read somewhere it was because TESB was too dark, and that he, Lucas, also had young daughters, and as a result of this he wanted them to see more fluffy, violent characters (the Ewoks).


Probably. There's a history of producers and directors dumbing down a project because they want to make it for "their kids".

While TESB was a huge critical and financial hit there were some criticisms it was to dark. So Lucas attempted to make Jedi more "fun" like the first film.

Finally I think the ultimate reason maybe because Lucas had become so rich and powerful by this point in time he regressed to the mental age of seven.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2019 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)


Probably. There's a history of producers and directors dumbing down a project because they want to make it for "their kids".

While TESB was a huge critical and financial hit there were some criticisms it was to dark. So Lucas attempted to make Jedi more "fun" like the first film.

Finally I think the ultimate reason maybe because Lucas had become so rich and powerful by this point in time he regressed to the mental age of seven.


Agreed, but putting in my two Spacebucks, there was some pretty dark stuff in Star Wars (1977) as well. In my cynical world, I just assumed a couple of things about TROTJ:

The speeder bike race was easy filler.
The Ewoks were also easy filler, but directly targeted toward kids and marketing and spinoffs.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2019 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Lawyer: "No, Mr. Lucas, isn't it true you consider Jar Jar Binks to be one of your favorite characters of the sagas?"

Georgie boy: "That's correct."

Lawyer: "I rest my case."

Some Dude: A guy in the jury stands up, "You're honor, in light of this new evidence, the jury instantly finds him guilty. The death penalty is recommended."

Judge: "Sustained."

 
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