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 Posted:   Jan 15, 2014 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)


 Posted:   Jan 15, 2014 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

I wallow in this series, so when two contiguous episodes leave me slightly seasick, I'm not being too hard...I'm being justifiably critical (consumer feedback).

There were many protests here in the UK too, Ron,about the start of the series; and then when the third episode proved to be so upsetting, many people were threatening not to watch it again.

Luckily, as I said earlier, it did recover it's equilibrium and went on to be hugely entertaining.

Roll on September, and Series: 5 !

 Posted:   Jan 15, 2014 - 5:39 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

On a slightly different note.... have you guys had "Mr.Selfridge" yet ?

The second series starts here on Sunday night.

It's about Harry Gordon Selfridge and the founding of the huge London department store in Oxford Street.

It's not quite as classy as "Downton" ( and doesn't attempt to replicate it!), but it's production values are high and the cast is excellent. Jeremy Piven is very good as our eponymous hero.

Try to catch it if you haven't already.

 Posted:   Jan 15, 2014 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I was shocked to see Ed Speleers in this show, looking way different than he did in Eragon.

I had to look up both to know what you were saying. I now know he is Jimmy on the show. Never heard of Eragon, until 30 seconds ago.

That is okay, I was probably one of the 12 people in the world that saw Eragon, I thought he was good in it, though his looks have changed a lot since those really young days

 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Good to hear from those who have already seen it that "Downton Abbey" gets better. I should have the entire season on Blu-ray in another 2 weeks or less.

 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)


You have reached your limit on words this week.
Have a nice rest of the week off.


 Posted:   Jan 16, 2014 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

ado: Ha! But I certainly DO tend to use far more words than are necessary! As for having the rest of the week off, I'm retired, so I'm very much enjoying my 7-day weekends!!!

 Posted:   Jan 18, 2014 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Is it just me, or does it seem that Season 4, so far at least, isn't much better than an average episode of "The EastEnders"? The rape scene seemed to be a very tired soap opera contrivance, a really lazy thing for the writers to come up with. I have a strong suspicion that this season is the beginning of the end for this show, which I'd been a fan of up to this time, but I think its time may be passing. (And wasn't the guy who plays the rapist once on "The EastEnders"?)

Yes, Dennis.

Well, I sure hope "Dennis" gets the ass-kicking he so richly deserves. Anything short of that will be most unsatisfactory, and I sure hope we're not going to have to endure an unwanted pregnancy and the noble couple deciding to raise the product of rape as their (his) own child, I mean really, how soap opera can this soap opera get? I guess I'll have to watch to find out!

 Posted:   Jan 20, 2014 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I enjoyed last night's episode. So glad that Edna is history and Tom is off the hook . But now I wonder who Thomas will have as an evil conspirator .

 Posted:   Jan 20, 2014 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I made a prediction and kept it to myself regarding the character of Anna Bates following the violent assault in last week's episode. I have always loved the strong, positive demeanor that she has exuded throughout the series. In addition to hating this story line, I was worried that it would obviously change her personality and would make her recovery almost impossible to include in the story line. When I watched last night's episode, I realized the change in her personality was there. Of course I realize this HAD to occur. I am just so sad to see this wonderful character turned into a cowering, fearful and sad woman. This is so true to life following this horrific event I am aware. This only affirms my belief that this story line was totally unecessary in season 4. True life does not always need to be portrayed.

 Posted:   Jan 20, 2014 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Ralph   (Member)

If “Downton Abbey” doesn’t hurry up and get better in this 4th season, there won’t be much of an audience left for the 5th. (Though it’s hopeful to have read here that those who’ve already seen the entire season say it improves.) Last night’s episode was hackneyed to the max. The only good moment: Mrs. Hughes thrashing Edna. And yes, the music does seem to have more prominence. Or is that because we’re desperate for something worth watching/listening to? Even Maggie’s quips are at low ebb.

 Posted:   Jan 21, 2014 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Ralph: Re: " And yes, the music does seem to have more prominence."

Yes, I made the point that the music seems more prominent this season. But I'm a little more optimistic than you about this season becoming more interesting. Certainly hope so!

 Posted:   Jan 21, 2014 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

ado: Ha! But I certainly DO tend to use far more words than are necessary! As for having the rest of the week off, I'm retired, so I'm very much enjoying my 7-day weekends!!!

Oh, that is fine Ron, I like your posts. I was just teasing you.

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Jan 30 2013: No spoilers here. Last night I finished watching the entire 4th season, and must say that, as in previous seasons, the picture quality of the Blu-rays far exceeds what we see during the PBS HD broadcast. While the season may have had some disappointments, noted by myself and others here when we began watching early episodes on PBS, enough happens in later chapters to redeem it, and while it certainly wasn't perfect, there are sufficient interesting plot points to set the stage for future intrigues in the seasons that will certainly follow. And I was pleased with the special features. One point: The final episode is 2 3/4 hours long, referred to as "The London Season," and I was amazed at how quickly those nearly 3 hours flew. [My mistake -- I had checked the remaining time an episode earlier than I thought.] And there are 3 behind the scenes specials that are, in total, about 36 minutes, and even though they fly, they seemed much longer than that, probably because they are so interesting.

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think a lot of people think that HD broadcasts are the same as BluRay. Most often the professionally produced BluRay are far superior, as well as having the benefit of superior sound and some nice packaging too.

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 9:31 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

My Blu-Rays are supposed to arrive today. Looking forward to a viewing orgy this weekend, watching the remaining episodes non-stop!

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

eriknelson: Re: My Blu-Rays are supposed to arrive today. Looking forward to a viewing orgy this weekend, watching the remaining episodes non-stop!

Frankly, I'm kicking myself for only watching it from where PBS left off (after the 4th episode, I think), now wishing I had, as I've done in years past, watched the Blu-rays from the beginning. But I enjoyed it enough that I'll probably do that during a slow weekend in the months ahead -- I'm going to miss my weekly "Downton Abbey" fix!

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Ralph   (Member)

Having watched the entire 4th season, in glorious Blu-ray, I remain convinced that Fellowes banks on viewers’ acceptance of excessive repetition. How often must actors play the same scene and recite nearly the same lines over and over? And variations of the same scenarios: Now we’re headed into a second mystery about a second demise. Fellowes didn’t satisfactorily wrap up the first one — who really killed Bates’ wife? Who accepts the silly sleuthing that the bitch did herself in? We’ve been traveling down the roads of Lady Mary snippiness, Edith hardship, plotting Thomas and poor Isobel vs. Violet for too long; the kitchen staff remain petulant nursery schoolers (though a few will finally graduate); we’re been hearing Cora and Robert mouthing their incredulous stupidities for more than three seasons and clearly understand why Mary seeks out Mr. Carson. How many times must Mary turn down a new suitor? And one suitor isn’t enough — she’s got at least three now, with two of them caught sizing up each other with more interest than they show her. Early into the 4th Maggie Smith’s quips are at low ebb but during the last four episodes Fellowes wakes up to give her some nifties and naturally she’s the Dowager Countess of Delivery. As her daughter, Samantha Bond is maybe more than her equal. I used to think Glenda Jackson and Judi Dench were incomparable with elocutionary edge but no more: Bond is the current Queen of Verbal Usurpation. Fellowes was dealt a rotten hand when the actors playing Sybil, Matthew and O’Brien departed and the insecurities are evident in the first few chapters of the 4th. While he and a terrific cast manage to pull out of the doldrums to secure a 5th, there’s the scary possibility that he’ll end up ignoring the loose ends he baited us with throughout the series. Classy production values aside, “Downton Abbey” is soap and audiences will be unforgiving if he doesn’t provide ratings sweeps resolutions.

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Mine are to arrive, today, as well. Except for the first 2 episodes of Season 4, I've only ever seen the show, via Blu-ray. Hoping that going back to it, will make me like it more than I do, right now. I went from loving it, to kind of hating it, instantly. Very odd.

 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

I will keep tuning in on Sunday nights to see the Houston PBS "after show" called MANOR OF SPEAKING. It's a 30-min show that discusses each evening's episode. There's a live studio audience featuring various local celebrities and interviews with people involved with the production of DA. It's a hoot. Here's a link for anyone interested in seeing previous episodes.

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