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 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

John McM: Re: Some other films I love:

Mame
One from the Heart
Crimes of Passion
Legend of the Lone Ranger
At Long Last Love
Strange Brew


While I love "Crimes of Passion" and bought both the initial DVD and the widescreen follow-up as well as Rick Wakeman's soundtrack with its interesting variations of melodies from the Dvorák 9th, I hated both "Mame" and "At Long Last Love," and didn't care that much for "One From The Heart" either. So it's just more examples of how some of us love movies that others hate, which also applies to our polarization on soundtracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Yeah, just look at his wikipedia info, he has done some pretty interesting things outside of movies. Sounds pretty genius level, just not the best special effects artist for a Star Trek movie.

ILM spoiled us forever.


No, Douglas Trumbull (Star Trek-The Motion Picture) spoiled us forever. ILM was a decent "B" team though. smile


You are right Trumbull was an amazing effects guy, the stuff in TMP is so lucious.

Too bad he is not really working in effects much anymore. He pretty much dropped out of doing motion picture work after Blade Runner I think, or was it Brainstorm. Brainstorm surely would have been a jarring experience. He has done theme parks and special projects.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Yeah, just look at his wikipedia info, he has done some pretty interesting things outside of movies. Sounds pretty genius level, just not the best special effects artist for a Star Trek movie.

ILM spoiled us forever.


No, Douglas Trumbull (Star Trek-The Motion Picture) spoiled us forever. ILM was a decent "B" team though. smile


You are right Trumbull was an amazing effects guy, the stuff in TMP is so lucious.

Too bad he is not really working in effects much anymore. He pretty much dropped out of doing motion picture work after Blade Runner I think, or was it Brainstorm. Brainstorm surely would have been a jarring experience. He has done theme parks and special projects.


Practical effects and real models make all the difference in the world.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

GOD TOLD ME TO[DEMON]- 76- A masterpiece in my book , but very few seem to agree.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Before it's too late, let me put in my two cents about "Star Trek V". I liked it as well. It's not my favorite of the bunch, but it's an enjoyable slice of entertainment. In fact, I can't think of a single ST film with the original crew that I didn't like. I never bought into that theory about "all the odd-numbered ones suck" or whatever it was people said. I liked "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" and "The Search for Spock" quite a bit as well. The latter, in particular, has a lot of heart, and what it lacks in action and Special Effects budget, it more than makes up for with its reliance on character and emotion....

Just my opinion. I'm sure some might disagree.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Bachelor party-57-This deep look at life and all it's tribulations was liked by a few critics but for the most part was a come and go film that over the years has not gotten much of a following.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I like the 1998 Godzilla.

You might feel alone in this, but you are not...cracking movie...




That makes 3 of us. A big entertaining movie. I like Broderick's nerdy scientist, Jean Reno rules, Arnold's score is spectacular and the action scenes are top notch. The MSG sequence, the Godzilla/ taxi chase... yep this is good stuff.

People raged about how this movie insulted Godzilla's legacy but they embrace... this...



I kid, I joke big grin

But really. Baby 'Zilla sucks.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I like the 1998 Godzilla.

You might feel alone in this, but you are not...cracking movie...




That makes 3 of us. A big entertaining movie. I like Broderick's nerdy scientist, Jean Reno rules, Arnold's score is spectacular and the action scenes are top notch. The MSG sequence, the Godzilla/ taxi chase... yep this is good stuff.

People raged about how this movie insulted Godzilla's legacy but they embrace... this...



I kid, I joke big grin

But really. Baby 'Zilla sucks.


One was intentionally silly. The other unintentionally silly.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 6:40 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO SOLIUM-Good point.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)



Practical effects and real models make all the difference in the world.


Yeah, the original shooting model of the Enterprise for ST TMP was really amazing, and the work that Trumbull did with lighting it with all those tiny mirrors and that brilliantly slow motion control camera around the model, absolutely stunning. It remains one of the most gorgeous and convincing effects movie sequences ever. The mass and heft of the ship is so persuasive in that sequence, it surpasses any CG spaceship work I have seen.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

TO SOLIUM-Good point.

I thought that that the Broderick Godzilla was quite entertaining as well, and I really like that overtop the top score as well. The Godzilla effects were quite good too.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)



Practical effects and real models make all the difference in the world.


Yeah, the original shooting model of the Enterprise for ST TMP was really amazing, and the work that Trumbull did with lighting it with all those tiny mirrors and that brilliantly slow motion control camera around the model, absolutely stunning. It remains one of the most gorgeous and convincing effects movie sequences ever. The mass and heft of the ship is so persuasive in that sequence, it surpasses any CG spaceship work I have seen.


And as good as it was, think of how good it could have been if Douglas Trumbull got the model he wanted. Which would have been much bigger. But he was stuck with the model the previously (fired) SFX company built.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

That Arsenic and Old Lace is a crackingly fun movie. I've never managed to convince people to watch it, in part because it's B&W.

That used to be the case too with Noises Off, I tried to get some friends to watch it, then one time they finally caved and couldn't stop raving about it afterwards!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Solium

Yeah, I heard him say he wanted one much larger, wow, that would have been an immense and impressive model. All I can say is what he did with that model was amazing,oh yeah, that whole space frame structure around the ship is amazing too.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

That Arsenic and Old Lace is a crackingly fun movie. I've never managed to convince people to watch it, in part because it's B&W.

That used to be the case too with Noises Off, I tried to get some friends to watch it, then one time they finally caved and couldn't stop raving about it afterwards!


I encounter this sort of comment from time to time, and it's getting more and more surprising rather than less so with each repetition - I once thought / assumed the teeming masses were indeed such benighted heathens, but I don't think I've ever once actually met someone who refused to watch movies just for being B & W. Where are the rest of you finding these people?

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Judging from this thread, there are plenty of people here at FSM, at least, who no longer need to feel quite alone in liking Star Trek V: The Final Frontier or Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. If it helps, I'll go ahead and voice my own appreciation for both movies, as well. Oh, I certainly recognize shortcomings in both, but I enjoy and embrace them anyway (in particular, I have a great deal more love for the much-maligned Star Trek V: The Final Frontier than for the essentially universally-acclaimed Star Trek [2009] and its less-regarded but still well-received successor Star Trek Into Darkness; I personally dislike both of those, especially the former).

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

I can't get on with Apocalypse Now, but I quite like the 1998 Godzilla.

I still believe, contrary to all evidence to the contrary, that a section of music in Return of the Jedi's climactic battle scene is made of music recorded for A New Hope, heavily edited and from material not necessarily used in A New Hope itself. I am aware I appear to be the only person on the planet who believes this.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   betenoir   (Member)

I liked The Lone Ranger, by taking it for what it was, not for what people thought it should have been. (I.e. I didn't watch it with stereotypical expectations or judge it by the same).
I liked Godfather 3. (Not as good as 1 and 2, to be sure, but if you didn't compare it with those two classics, it was a very good movie).
I liked IJ and the Crystal Skull, though it would have been much better if Shia were not in it.
I liked Critters.
I liked The Postman

I found Shakespeare In Love merely average, and far from deserving of an Oscar that year. Many films, both nominated and un-nominated, were mroe deserving.

I loathed West Side Story and was appalled that it won the Oscar.

Etc., etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I can add Waterworld which I really enjoyed even if most people didn't. Never understood the antipathy towards the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

That Arsenic and Old Lace is a crackingly fun movie. I've never managed to convince people to watch it, in part because it's B&W.

I quite enjoyed Arsenic and Old Lace the first time I saw it.

On the other hand, I HATE Bringing Up Baby. smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2014 - 7:28 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

The only good Jason Bourne movie is the one without Jason Bourne in it.

 
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