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 Posted:   Aug 23, 2007 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

That "some Asian guy" was Robert Ito, who played Quincy's assistant Sam Fujiyama in 38 episodes.


No it wasn't. It was an older guy, a Dr Hiro.


Thanks, Jehannum, for understanding what I was referring to.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2007 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   soop   (Member)

Any plot from Law & Order, seasons 2 through 1,756.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2007 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)


Evil twins can go.


Agreed!

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2007 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Jon A. Bell   (Member)


(I'd also like to see, in every shot of a film set in Paris, the Eiffel Tower visible through every single window in a flat, even if you have a Steadicam going from room to room, each facing a different direction. Same with London and Big Ben, San Francisco and the Golden Gate Bridge, etc.)

-- Jon


Fantastic idea! Can I use that in a short film?


Of course -- go for it!

-- Jon

 
 Posted:   May 17, 2008 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

While we're at it, let's also retire the "precocious kid" who always "knows" better than the adults and has all the "best" lines.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2009 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The "bottle" show must go! That's an episode taking place in a confined space, like when Magnum and Carol Burnett were trapped inside a bank vault and we get to see them flex their acting chops as they jaw at each other and show off their range.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2009 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   Storyteller   (Member)

Oh I got one...

Any variation on The Most Dangerous Game. I am so sick of the man who has hunted everything so now he hunts man/woman thing I could scream. I can think of no other plot device used in more movies or TV shows than this one.

The first 4 episodes of Dollhouse were all over used plot devices as well: Most Dangerous Game (surprise!), Stepford Wives (sick of the perfect brainwashed female storylines as well), Bodyguard hired to find missing child that all believe is dead except one person... who turns out to be right then saves child, undercover agent in a cult that leads all the "they were just mislead" characters to freedom in the end, and bodyguard to spoiled rich pop star who is just misunderstood.

Good grief, i think Joss was going for a record or something.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2009 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

How about any "jump the shark" type plots?

Apparently "jump the shark" dates from the days of Happy Days, when a show on it's last legs was given some sort of cock-eyed injection to boost sagging ratings.

In the Happy Days plot, Fonzie was skiing and literally jumped over a shark. Apparently, this episode was given a lot of promotion to get people to watch.

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 2:11 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Can we stop with two things that regularly happen in horror films? Firstly, dream sequences that aren't part of the plot but just an excuse for cheapjack "Boo!" moments. Secondly, hands reaching silently into frame towards the heroine's shoulder that turn out to belong to idiot boyfriends, and are just an excuse for cheapjack "Boo!" moments.

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 4:51 AM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

How about that hackneyed moment when the hero realizes his best friend has just opened a door that is going to set off a bomb and utters that wonderfully eloquent line of dialogue:

"NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

*boom*

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 6:54 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Retire ALL the following formats;

(1) ALL crime/cop/forensic drama shows. A totally overdone genre by now.

(2) All UK shows about what your antiques are worth, how to auction your antiques, how to sell off your antiques, how to ascend the property ladder, how to fix up your property in order to sell it, how to find a new property, how to design a new property.

(3) All reality TV

(4) All talent show panel games

(5) All 'Get the audience to vote off someone each week to keep them interested' formats

(6) All cookery shows whatsoever

(7) All 'emergency' and medical soap-opera dramas of any kind

(8) All 'Star-Trek: the original crew's great-grandsons volume 93' spin-offs

(9) All 'psychics who work for the police' shows

(10) All 'family life' situation comedies. What about 'The Partridge Family in the Nicholas and Alexandra basement'? I'd pay to see that.

(11) All CGI Harry-Potterish castrations of Arthurian legneds etc.

(12) All 'most people think this, but we are now going to put a new slant on it, and show you the (actually stale) 'news' that it isn't really true' documentaries

(13) All awful historical reconstruction documentaries with re-enactment bad actors in costume being filmed in close-up and slow-motion.

(14) All American history shows that use corny sentimental emotional background music too often

(15) All 'UFOs are trying to infiltrate boring societies' shows

(16) All courtroom dramas ... it's a lazy style, and lawyers are too vain as it is

(17) All 'this is a hard-hitting documentary' presenters

(18) All ridiculous, unimaginative walnut-head makeup in 'Star-Trek'

(19) All 'Klingon' voice-over styles

(20) All teen comedies about rock-music schools, fame academies, etc. etc.

(21) All short-attention-span documentaries that repeat themselves 40 times in each episode, have 102 commercial breaks, each followed by a recap, and millions spent on CGI to illustrate something in half an hour that could be said in 10 seconds.

(22) Revisionist shows that look back at the 'best 100 whatevers' and don't need any new money spent on them

(23) 'don't animals do the craziest things?' and bread and circuses real life car-crash footage junk

(24) Blooper out-take shows. They were fun at the beginning, but now they're overdone, and let's face it ... endless sources of material that costs nothing. Every good take has five bad ones anyway.

(25) .... Oh, who cares? .... Let's face it, EVERYTHING's cliche now. The medium is wrecked. Bring back old experimental TV, live, risk-taking etc..

TELEVISION IS CRAP AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES.

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 7:02 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

WilliamD:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Donna   (Member)

How about every American sitcom where the father is a total dunce?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Greg Bryant   (Member)

Retire ALL the following formats;

(1) ALL crime/cop/forensic drama shows. A totally overdone genre by now.

(2) All UK shows about what your antiques are worth, how to auction your antiques, how to sell off your antiques, how to ascend the property ladder, how to fix up your property in order to sell it, how to find a new property, how to design a new property.

(3) All reality TV

(4) All talent show panel games

(5) All 'Get the audience to vote off someone each week to keep them interested' formats

(6) All cookery shows whatsoever

(7) All 'emergency' and medical soap-opera dramas of any kind

(8) All 'Star-Trek: the original crew's great-grandsons volume 93' spin-offs

(9) All 'psychics who work for the police' shows

(10) All 'family life' situation comedies. What about 'The Partridge Family in the Nicholas and Alexandra basement'? I'd pay to see that.

(11) All CGI Harry-Potterish castrations of Arthurian legneds etc.

(12) All 'most people think this, but we are now going to put a new slant on it, and show you the (actually stale) 'news' that it isn't really true' documentaries

(13) All awful historical reconstruction documentaries with re-enactment bad actors in costume being filmed in close-up and slow-motion.

(14) All American history shows that use corny sentimental emotional background music too often

(15) All 'UFOs are trying to infiltrate boring societies' shows

(16) All courtroom dramas ... it's a lazy style, and lawyers are too vain as it is

(17) All 'this is a hard-hitting documentary' presenters

(18) All ridiculous, unimaginative walnut-head makeup in 'Star-Trek'

(19) All 'Klingon' voice-over styles

(20) All teen comedies about rock-music schools, fame academies, etc. etc.

(21) All short-attention-span documentaries that repeat themselves 40 times in each episode, have 102 commercial breaks, each followed by a recap, and millions spent on CGI to illustrate something in half an hour that could be said in 10 seconds.

(22) Revisionist shows that look back at the 'best 100 whatevers' and don't need any new money spent on them

(23) 'don't animals do the craziest things?' and bread and circuses real life car-crash footage junk

(24) Blooper out-take shows. They were fun at the beginning, but now they're overdone, and let's face it ... endless sources of material that costs nothing. Every good take has five bad ones anyway.

(25) .... Oh, who cares? .... Let's face it, EVERYTHING's cliche now. The medium is wrecked. Bring back old experimental TV, live, risk-taking etc..

TELEVISION IS CRAP AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES.




But then...there would be nothing on TV. Just blank screens. eek

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

For the love of Mike, please retire this plot: Agents (investigative representing some governmental agency or police division) enter a house or apartment or office or warehouse and turn on their flashlights.

FOR PITY's SAKE: Someone just flip a LIGHT SWITCH!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Miragliano   (Member)

The recession plus the bursting of the housing bubble HAS put an end to shows about climbing the property ladder, at least in the UK.

HOORAY! About time! (referring of course to the demise of the shows, not the recession!)

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Can we stop with two things that regularly happen in horror films? Firstly, dream sequences that aren't part of the plot but just an excuse for cheapjack "Boo!" moments. Secondly, hands reaching silently into frame towards the heroine's shoulder that turn out to belong to idiot boyfriends, and are just an excuse for cheapjack "Boo!" moments.

And please, whatever you do, stop showing those poor fools in these horror films walking up the stairs to open a door behind which is instant, horrifying and gruesome death. Nobody in real life is going to investigate that noise behind a door at the top of the stairs in a strange place...why would they!

Under the bed is the best place to be!

 
 Posted:   Apr 21, 2009 - 8:19 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)


That "some Asian guy" was Robert Ito, who played Quincy's assistant Sam Fujiyama in 38 episodes.


No it wasn't. It was an older guy, a Dr Hiro.



Yuki Shimoda played Dr. Hiro. In one episode only.

That's nowhere near as irritating as all the shows in which Jessica Fletcher only introduced the episode in which her dear friend inspector so-and-so, or someone else, found himself embroiled in a murder investigation.

Those were some tiresome episodes of "Murder, She Wrot".

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

For the love of Mike, please retire this plot: Agents (investigative representing some governmental agency or police division) enter a house or apartment or office or warehouse and turn on their flashlights.

FOR PITY's SAKE: Someone just flip a LIGHT SWITCH!


The "flashlights instead of room lights" thing is done on every episode of every CSI show. I'm wondering if this is a real procedural thing with actual CSI units. Does the use of flashlights instead of room lights tend to focus one's attention on a single thing at a time, thus avoiding overlooking a crucial piece of evidence?

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

The "flashlights instead of room lights" thing is done on every episode of every CSI show. I'm wondering if this is a real procedural thing with actual CSI units. Does the use of flashlights instead of room lights tend to focus one's attention on a single thing at a time, thus avoiding overlooking a crucial piece of evidence?

Maybe they always figure that if there are going to be any fingerprints in the room, they'll be on the light switch. Or more likely they do it because they think it looked cool in THE X-FILES (except it didn't, really).

I'd also like them to stop doing reality TV shows about cops in the UK. Unless there's guns and shooting, I'm not interested. I'm always reminded of the line in ALIENS when the Marines are told they can't use their pulse rifles or whatever: "What the hell do we use now, harsh language?".

I don't think we need to lose everything off Mr McCrum's list - but I would bring much of it down to a sensible level by a merciless cull. If I were the head of British TV networks (and it's really a mercy for everyone that I'm not) I'd get the executive producers behind the forty-three cookery shows in a room and tell them: "from now one there are going to be three. Give me a hundred words on why yours should be one of them." On the same principle I'd reduce every soap opera to two episodes a week maximum and axe every gaudy talent show. But on a purely selfish level I'd recommission RED DWARF because I really like it.

I'd move the f-word watershed back to 10pm. I'd also decree that timeslots were set in stone and tough luck if your beloved golf overruns, because we're cutting away and sticking with the schedule. For the BBC I'd probably put all the likely-overrunning sports on BBC3, which doesn't matter as it's basically a repeats and bad comedy channel. Overpaid halfwits like Ross, Norton, Brand and Moyles would be ditched as soon as contractually possible and not renewed; the vast oceans of money saved would go into writers, comedy and new drama. There'd also be a 10-year moratorium on period adaptations of the Jane Austen variety. Vote Platini.

 
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