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Nov 17, 2017 - 8:33 AM
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Thor
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The Lost World was cringe worthy, and I didn't find one action piece compelling. If your going to take yourself seriously at least have a competent script. Jurassic Park was pretty stupid too, but at least it hit the right notes musically and thematically speaking.
Jurassic Park III was a mindless but fun modern day B movie. It never tries to be more than that. The bad wrap on the talking Raptor scene was always a weak argument for criticizing the film. It was obviously a bad dream sequence that could've happened. It was quirky and inventively silly moment for the character in the film.
We're so different here, it's not even funny. Basically on different PLANETS. JURASSIC PARK is one of the best films in the history of cinema, IMO, and one that ranks in my alltime top 3. I've seen it more than 60 times. THE LOST WORLD, I've seen maybe 30 times, and I'm blown away by the atmosphere and kinetic energy every single time. JP3 I've "only" seen some 7-8 times, but it still gives me immense joy. Only qualm is that it's about 20 minutes too short.
JURASSIC WORLD was also fairly decent as a straight-up creature feature, but basically betrayed a lot of the elements that made the first three so great. I've only seen it three times.
I keep mentioning the numbers I've seen them to illustrate that to me, these are actually the opposite of what this thread is about. Not only are they NOT a film you walk out on, they're films you keep coming back to. Again and again and again.
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Nov 17, 2017 - 9:53 AM
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The Lost World was cringe worthy, and I didn't find one action piece compelling. If your going to take yourself seriously at least have a competent script. Jurassic Park was pretty stupid too, but at least it hit the right notes musically and thematically speaking.
Jurassic Park III was a mindless but fun modern day B movie. It never tries to be more than that. The bad wrap on the talking Raptor scene was always a weak argument for criticizing the film. It was obviously a bad dream sequence that could've happened. It was quirky and inventively silly moment for the character in the film.
We're so different here, it's not even funny. Basically on different PLANETS. JURASSIC PARK is one of the best films in the history of cinema, IMO, and one that ranks in my alltime top 3. I've seen it more than 60 times. THE LOST WORLD, I've seen maybe 30 times, and I'm blown away by the atmosphere and kinetic energy every single time. JP3 I've "only" seen some 7-8 times, but it still gives me immense joy. Only qualm is that it's about 20 minutes too short.
JURASSIC WORLD was also fairly decent as a straight-up creature feature, but basically betrayed a lot of the elements that made the first three so great. I've only seen it three times.
I keep mentioning the numbers I've seen them to illustrate that to me, these are actually the opposite of what this thread is about. Not only are they NOT a film you walk out on, they're films you keep coming back to. Again and again and again.
I totally agree we are polar opposites.  I give you credit for remembering how many times you saw these films. I sure can't remember how many times I saw Star Wars (77) but it sure was the biggest thing in my life for a decade or two.
Spielberg is a masterful director, but his script are abysmal and full of WTF moments. Aliens in Close Encounters invade peoples homes and kidnaps little boys, then turn out to be cute little friendly folk. Jurrassic Park, one moment the T-Rex breaks through the fence from a clearly wooded area, next scene (exact same location) there's a steep hundred foot drop right where he came from. Those thing irritate me to no end.
Lost World suffered as most sequels do in "more is better" fallacy. One T-Rex was great, lets have two! Two Raptors were great, lets have ten!
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A few due to bad projection in the cinema, screening them out of focus. But only once due to the film's quality: a low-budget garbage atrocity called ZOMBIE WOMEN OF SATAN at a horror festival. I had a full weekend pass but after 20 minutes it was clear that it wasn't going to get any better. Several of us waited outside the cinema for the next few people to leave and asked "what kept you?".
I came close during BORAT and HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN (the latter I would definitely have walked if I'd been on an aisle, but in this instance it would have meant disrupting a bunch of other people on the row).
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When a film is called "Hobo with a Shotgun", it's code words for: DON'T SEE THIS MOVIE
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Nov 17, 2017 - 4:05 PM
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henry
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The Lost World was cringe worthy, and I didn't find one action piece compelling. If your going to take yourself seriously at least have a competent script. Jurassic Park was pretty stupid too, but at least it hit the right notes musically and thematically speaking.
Jurassic Park III was a mindless but fun modern day B movie. It never tries to be more than that. The bad wrap on the talking Raptor scene was always a weak argument for criticizing the film. It was obviously a bad dream sequence that could've happened. It was quirky and inventively silly moment for the character in the film.
We're so different here, it's not even funny. Basically on different PLANETS. JURASSIC PARK is one of the best films in the history of cinema, IMO, and one that ranks in my alltime top 3. I've seen it more than 60 times. THE LOST WORLD, I've seen maybe 30 times, and I'm blown away by the atmosphere and kinetic energy every single time. JP3 I've "only" seen some 7-8 times, but it still gives me immense joy. Only qualm is that it's about 20 minutes too short.
JURASSIC WORLD was also fairly decent as a straight-up creature feature, but basically betrayed a lot of the elements that made the first three so great. I've only seen it three times.
I keep mentioning the numbers I've seen them to illustrate that to me, these are actually the opposite of what this thread is about. Not only are they NOT a film you walk out on, they're films you keep coming back to. Again and again and again.
Thor, I too love JURASSIC PARK, it's one of my favorites! But I just can't get in to JURASSIC PARK III. Like you said, it's half an hour to short. It's anti-climactic. It's like they forgot the end. And I also think the cg, and the spinosaur animatronic looked terrible. I also thought the score was weak. And don't get me started on Tea Leoni, could she be more annoying?
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Nov 17, 2017 - 4:38 PM
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Thor
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Thor, I too love JURASSIC PARK, it's one of my favorites! But I just can't get in to JURASSIC PARK III. Like you said, it's half an hour to short. It's anti-climactic. It's like they forgot the end. And I also think the cg, and the spinosaur animatronic looked terrible. I also thought the score was weak. And don't get me started on Tea Leoni, could she be more annoying?
Well, I don't agree with your other qualms. I thought the CGI and animatronics were fine (impressive even!), the score a brutal change of pace (better in the film than on album, perhaps), and I really have no problem with Tea Leoni in this film. I know people keep saying that she's "annoying" in this film, but I really can't see it. Not even after 7-8 times.
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Nov 18, 2017 - 4:30 PM
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You guys are crazy. THE LOST WORLD is an underrated showcase in action directing, and JP3 was a cool, old-school, elegant creature feature. I've seen both films many, many times.
This is the second time in a month I agreed with Thor
Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.
Only twice, that I recall. Run Wild, Run Free when I was able it 10 (maybe I mixed it up with Run Silent, Run Deep) and Fatal Attraction. I was there with a pre-Mrs TG girlfriend, who just wasn’t feeling it, as they say nowadays.
I also got thrown out of a cinema once, as previously recounted, for fighting. Still don’t know how Lady Caroline Lamb ends.
I would love to know how your parents reacted to you getting thrown out of that cinema lol. And all I know is that Lady Caroline Lamb is buried in the graveyard of St Etheldreda's church in Hatfield.
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- South park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
I'm not a fan of language so I just threw my arms up in the air and gave up.
Had you never seen the series before? If you had, what were you expecting? Tea and crumpets with some philosophy tossed in?
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