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 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Checking on the internet unfortunately at the present time I don't see it on YOU TUBE like thousand's and thousand's are..

Thanks for looking Dan. I appreciate the efforts.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2014 - 11:20 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)




Okay, the plot thickens on 'They Won't Believe Me'. I just received some kind words and a very generous and informative response on this film from the "Czar of Noir" himself, Eddie Muller which can be read in the comments section below my review here:

http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2013/6/22/wkph1bclcvl5jxi5844tpzri2fb3wk


I'd still love to hear from anyone who has an opinion or additional information on this unusual film.


 
 
 Posted:   Jul 1, 2014 - 1:09 AM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

With regard to the length of THEY WON'T BELIEVE ME, the American Film Institute Catalog lists the running time at 95 minutes, and they claim to have viewed a print in order to create their Catalog entry. Perhaps they didn't actually put a clock to the film and just assumed they were viewing a 95 minute version, although there are a number of other films in the catalog where they note differences in the running time between what reviews and other sources claim and what the actual print viewed ran.

As for the laserdisc, I've seen the back of a copy, and it lists the running time as 91 minutes. There is an entry for the disc in the online Laserdisc Database. That entry lists the running time as 94 minutes, with the notation that the "Jacket wrongly lists running time as 91 minutes." Given all this, I'd be hesitant to conclude, as Muller does, that the 95 minute version doesn't exist and is a "legend."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

With regard to the length of THEY WON'T BELIEVE ME, the American Film Institute Catalog lists the running time at 95 minutes, and they claim to have viewed a print in order to create their Catalog entry. Perhaps they didn't actually put a clock to the film and just assumed they were viewing a 95 minute version, although there are a number of other films in the catalog where they note differences in the running time between what reviews and other sources claim and what the actual print viewed ran.

As for the laserdisc, I've seen the back of a copy, and it lists the running time as 91 minutes. There is an entry for the disc in the online Laserdisc Database. That entry lists the running time as 94 minutes, with the notation that the "Jacket wrongly lists running time as 91 minutes." Given all this, I'd be hesitant to conclude, as Muller does, that the 95 minute version doesn't exist and is a "legend."


More fascinating info on this rarity! Thanks for that Bob. Any chance you could view the Laser Disc in question, perhaps in the future? Have you seen the (80 minute?)version? I've heard about the added scenes in detail and of course Eddie had a "longer" version at Noir City but just how long we still don't know.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Have you seen the (80 minute?)version? I've heard about the added scenes in detail and of course Eddie had a "longer" version at Noir City but just how long we still don't know.


I've never seen any version of THEY WON'T BELIEVE ME, so even if I could view a long version, I wouldn't be able to tell how it differed from the short version, or which scenes had been deleted from the long version. My understanding is that scenes were not "added" to the short version, but were edited out of the original (long) version for a later re-release of the film (probably for the bottom half of a double bill).

One more thing on the film's length. The AFI Catalog lists the physical length of the film as 8,536 feet. Where they get this number, I don't know--probably from studio paperwork, but possibly from looking at a footage counter in a projection booth. In any case, at 1.5 feet per second for standard sound film, that times out to 5,691 seconds, or 94:51.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Some films in JULY on THIS that are a bit rare on TV are, REPULSION-65- Cult horror hit. THE BORDER-79- TELLY SAVALAS.SILENT RAGE-82- CHUCK NORRIS. CHINA DOLL-58- VICTOR MATURE.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 4:33 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)

Have you seen the (80 minute?)version? I've heard about the added scenes in detail and of course Eddie had a "longer" version at Noir City but just how long we still don't know.


I've never seen any version of THEY WON'T BELIEVE ME, so even if I could view a long version, I wouldn't be able to tell how it differed from the short version, or which scenes had been deleted from the long version. My understanding is that scenes were not "added" to the short version, but were edited out of the original (long) version for a later re-release of the film (probably for the bottom half of a double bill).

One more thing on the film's length. The AFI Catalog lists the physical length of the film as 8,536 feet. Where they get this number, I don't know--probably from studio paperwork, but possibly from looking at a footage counter in a projection booth. In any case, at 1.5 feet per second for standard sound film, that times out to 5,691 seconds, or 94:51.


You must have been awfully good at math Bob. Very impressive!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 6, 2014 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   arthur grant   (Member)



My TCM recommendations this month are:

The fairly obscure noir Jeopardy and Smiles of a Summer Night, Ingmar Bergman's masterpiece, more here:

http://thecinemacafe.com/the-cinema-treasure-hunter/2014/7/4/now-listen-to-me#commentsWrapper=

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2014 - 11:56 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I've scheduled a real obscurity for my summer 16mm film screening this week. It's a British ghost comedy called No Haunt for a Gentleman. Perhaps even more obscure than my screening of the Italian drama Disorder a few weeks ago.

One of the things I love about 16mm film collecting is finding these forgotten films that don't appear to have been released in video formats. Just recently I picked up from a seller in Greece the last Alfred Hitchcock footage I had yet to see (at least until The Mountain Eagle is found!), an appearance on a television program called Tactic that dealt with cancer. Hitchcock appears in a segment about overcoming the fear of having an operation and directs a short sketch with William Shatner as a doctor. Great fun hearing Hitch address Shatner as Bill, as though they've been working together for years. Definitely a must-see for the Hitchcock completist, but not easy to find.

 
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