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 Posted:   Feb 2, 2014 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

DIAL M FOR MURDER has a couple of instances of haloing, but zero ghosting, on my set. There's a difference. The haloing is there in the 2D version (looks smeary), so it has nothing to do with the 3D effect. Ghosting is when one eye is seeing something meant for the other. I've watched the film 3 times (it's one of my favorite Hitchcock films), and never saw a single instance of ghosting. As I said in an earlier post, I only saw one instance of ghosting, in the 25 films I own in 3D. One second in YOGI BEAR. That's it. I agree, in theory, active is the better system for picture quality, but in reality, it appears to be the major cause of ghosting, because of improper shutter response. I've read too many reviews where ghosting is mentioned (viewed on active systems) on titles that I own, where ghosting doesn't exist. I've noticed, now, that reviewers are starting to mentioned that ghosting issues are not inherent in the disc, but are a result of the hardware.

I recently watched MAN IN THE DARK, which is a 1953 B&W 3D entry. Mediocre film, with really excellent depth and some in your face pop outs. Still have both BRAVE and TOY STORY 3, to watch. Heard great things about both.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2014 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Recently acquired Sam Raimi's "OZ: The Great and Powerful 3D." Shot natively, it's tops in dynamic, colorful, engaging 3D. Whereas 'Avatar' tended toward visual overkill, Raimi ensures a lot of great contrasting sequences; from epic to intimate, it all works like gangbusters. A first rate title on the Blu-ray 3D format.

Be advised: Disney's charging the usual mint for the 3D edition, and it only contains that copy of the film. No 2d, etc. Those with LG sets and certain Blu-ray players should be able to set them for "normal" playback if a 2d viewing is desired. The transfer's probably optimized for 3D, but the differences are usually minimal. And I can't see myself wanting to view this one in 2D anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2014 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I just took the plunge and bought a 50-inch Vizio Smart 3D TV. I unboxed it and spent the day getting it hooked up. Still have to get connected to activate some of the apps. So far, I'm pretty pleased with how the picture quality looks, but I'm still trying to calibrate it to eliminate some of that video-like smoothness.

Screen is a bit too reflective, so we have to kill a few more lights in the living room when we're watching a movie.

First blu-rays I put in was Destroy All Monsters and the new remastered RoboCop. I played some Battlefield 3 last night and it looked spectacular.

Today, I got to check out the 3D by playing my Dredd blu-ray, and the passive 3D looked pretty good.

It cost us $799. at Best Buy, $976. total with tax and the Geek Squad plan. I've been stuck with a 27-CRT, which went to a recycle place before we picked up the new TV. smile

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-m501d-a2r/4505-6482_7-35781439.html

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2014 - 6:37 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I wonder if the reflective screen is necessary for passive 3D? My LG 3D set is reflective, while my LG regular set has a matte screen. Luckily, I have a shade on the window that provides the reflection, so watching in the daytime is not an issue.

I just watched (on this snow day), JOHN CARTER. I heard such awful things about it, but I really liked it. It's a 3D conversion and not native, but the depth is wonderful, and I, thoroughly, enjoyed it! I got it for free from Disney Rewards, which is why I took the chance on it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 10:25 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

My home cinema system is getting a bit ancient now - I still have to push my blu ray's sound through my DVD amp and the blu ray itself - a Sony which was top of the line when I got it 6 years ago - is now an antique which takes forever to boot up. And my TV itself is getting on somewhat to say the least (to give you some idea, it only has two HDMI slots which means having to use a clunky expander to connect everything that I have since added to the set up since I bought it).

And worst of all, Asa. huge fan of the 3D format, I keep looking longingly at all those 3D blu ray releases when I have to buy the standard release.

So, enough is enough. I've just ordered a sparkling new Sony Bravia and 3D blu ray home cinema unit. And I can't wait. Ok, so it means having to re-buy a few blu rays to play on it (counting DVDs, this will be my 4th copy of Titanic) but I don't mind.

What I am not looking forward to is the Herculean task of uninstalling all of my existing set up because there are a LOT of wires!!!!

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Something which comes to my mind and may deserve a topic of its own: 3D conversion by TV sets.

A few days ago I tried it again on my mother's TV set (purchased last June; my 3.5-year-old 2D TV set looks cumbersome compared to it) on pictures taken at Disneyland Paris.
The conversion of some photos was quite remarquable, for something which is done with only a single frame to work from (no comparison with previous and next frames as in a film) an no input from the user to tweak it; the TV set was able to give a certain depth, as some layers were clearly in front, others in the background, and so forth; rather impressive.

It might be nice to share (in another thread) pictures that look nice after conversion, and comments (in this thread) on movies or shots from movies that look (relatively) good when converted by the television set.
I remember trying that feature (upon purchase) on King Kong-- the offering scene.

 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I'll share a couple here...The Hunger Games was pretty decent in Fake 3D...Lord of the Rings: Return of the King generally wasn't. I wonder how much it varies from TV to TV though...

 
 Posted:   Mar 4, 2014 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

GRAVITY has almost nothing to recommend it, other than the nice use of 3D. Bullock is fine in these roles where she needs to overcome and rise up to a challenge, but there's not much too it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2014 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Why is this awesome format dying? I'm going with botched rollout with competing technology that confused the marketplace--active/passive--and grossly overpriced media. Microsoft's shipping the X-box One without 3D capability and feeling no pain for it, along with the Vizio announcement below begs the question of how long studios are going to bother to release 3D content. Sniff!

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/6/5279150/vizio-announces-first-consumer-4k-tvs-kills-3d-support

And another thing: Word from the CES is that LG's 2014 lineup also kicks 3D up into the 4K Only category. At this point, sounds like they've made their last 1080p model. Granted, the passive 3D process would perform even better on 4K sets; it's just a bummer to see the feature being positioned in such a way that will represent further die-off of the technology and another step away from widespread appropriation.

Well, enough doom and gloom: For now, it's still out there, new titles are being released...and I'll enjoy it as long as it's supported.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Why is this awesome format dying? I'm going with botched rollout with competing technology that confused the marketplace--active/passive--and grossly overpriced media. Microsoft's shipping the X-box One without 3D capability and feeling no pain for it, along with the Vizio announcement below begs the question of how long studios are going to bother to release 3D content. Sniff!

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/6/5279150/vizio-announces-first-consumer-4k-tvs-kills-3d-support

And another thing: Word from the CES is that LG's 2014 lineup also kicks 3D up into the 4K Only category. At this point, sounds like they've made their last 1080p model. Granted, the passive 3D process would perform even better on 4K sets; it's just a bummer to see the feature being positioned in such a way that will represent further die-off of the technology and another step away from widespread appropriation.

Well, enough doom and gloom: For now, it's still out there, new titles are being released...and I'll enjoy it as long as it's supported.



Yeah I would blame it on industry in-fighting and bad timing. The industry successfully got a lot of us to buy a HD screen, then about 2 or three years later tried to tell us we MUST HAVE a 3D screen to replace that one. Logically most consumers were thinking 'well I just spent $1000 a couple years ago, so NO I will not replace that one with one that costs $1500.

Of course the costs of 3D HD came down, but by that time it was too late. Add to that the industry mistakenly is in another heavy push, again for the MUST HAVE 4k, which will make very little difference to the viewing experience of most standard home arrangements. Well, it is a big mess.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Also add that Disney decided to not release their meg-3D hit, FROZEN on 3D Blu-ray in North America! Nutty.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Also add that Disney decided to not release their meg-3D hit, FROZEN on 3D Blu-ray in North America! Nutty.

It took me a week to realize that, apparently you can order it from Amazon UK, but we cannot get it here till later this year. Very strange since Disney operations are here in the USA. Also, the posters in France were much better art than USA. Go figure.

As a whole though, selling over 3 million blu ray in a few days is pretty amazing for the medium and the film itself. It goes to show you that the streaming taking over rant is a bit premature.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Yes, I've ordered the Region Free UK release, which will be released on Monday. Won't be double-dipping on this one. I just want the 3D film, and regardless of what may come in North America this fall (not even official), I won't be buying it again. The method to Disney's madness is unclear to me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Yes, I've ordered the Region Free UK release, which will be released on Monday. Won't be double-dipping on this one. I just want the 3D film, and regardless of what may come in North America this fall (not even official), I won't be buying it again. The method to Disney's madness is unclear to me.

They really do make some great stuff, especially with Pixar under the Mouse now, but they can be a little nutty.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

People like to rag on them, but I find their 3D product pretty wonderful. I even liked JOHN CARTER!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

People like to rag on them, but I find their 3D product pretty wonderful. I even liked JOHN CARTER!

Yeah, they have given us a lot of great features, especially animation, I have not seen John Carter yet.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   timc   (Member)

Also add that Disney decided to not release their meg-3D hit, FROZEN on 3D Blu-ray in North America! Nutty.


Kind of a worrying vote of no confidence in the North American 3D market, especially given that the film did so well.

After Disney's stunt of releasing Oz: The Great And Powerful--a fantastic disk--in a pricey, 3D-only package, many thought they couldn't treat consumers any worse...until a 3D Frozen wasn't slated for release at all (to date)...

Region free solutions are great, if they're available.

Are 3D titles that more more expensive to produce? Otherwise, a baffling decision from Dis.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I was able to buy the OZ 3D, for $5.00, with a code from the standard Blu-ray. I agree it was kind of annoying, but it didn't end up costing any more than it would have if they released them in one package. In fact, it might have been slightly cheaper. It shipped immediately. I wouldn't even mind that model. It's making it unavailable that bothers me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Bizarre: My previous 'Cooper' post--below--is showing as being from TIMC. I logged out, then in again; seems to have fixed the prob. Testing, to be sure:


Also add that Disney decided to not release their meg-3D hit, FROZEN on 3D Blu-ray in North America! Nutty.


Kind of a worrying vote of no confidence in the North American 3D market, especially given that the film did so well.

After Disney's stunt of releasing Oz: The Great And Powerful--a fantastic disk--in a pricey, 3D-only package, many thought they couldn't treat consumers any worse...until a 3D Frozen wasn't slated for release at all (to date)...

Region free solutions are great, if they're available.

Are 3D titles that more more expensive to produce? Otherwise, a baffling decision from Dis.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2014 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

I was able to buy the OZ 3D, for $5.00, with a code from the standard Blu-ray. I agree it was kind of annoying, but it didn't end up costing any more than it would have if they released them in one package. In fact, it might have been slightly cheaper. It shipped immediately. I wouldn't even mind that model. It's making it unavailable that bothers me.


Nicely played.

What did you think of the disk, 3D? Eye-popping, I thought. Really dynamic. Almost seizure inducing color.

 
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