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 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

So this begs the question: What did you think of the movie version of "Jesus Christ Superstar"? I saw it, when it was first released, at the Cinerama Dome on Sunset in Hollywood, and just loved it, and found myself more moved by something religious than I thought possible. They had the music so loud that some little ladies around me had their hands pressed against their ears, but for me it was heaven. They released the movie on VHS and the audio was just awful, and years later a less than satisfactory DVD. But the Blu-ray was a definite improvement, and I love director Norman Jewison's audio commentary. That said, I normally don't care for movie versions of musicals I've loved on the stage.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

To CH-CD, I really don't think that Thomas wanted us to post a long list of every cast album, film and show, that we own. He wrote "...where we can post and maybe have more discussion about the Cast Recordings we listen to," with "discussion" the operative word. If I listed every cast album I own, it would run in the several hundreds. Why don't you tell us about how you discovered a few of the ones you most love and maybe any you might have seen on stage? And I've come back, because I see now that you've included tracks and times from, presumably an iPod playlist. If a song means enough to you to single it out in such a compilation of favorites, why not tell us what it means to you? Just a thought for possible discussion.


Frankly, I see little purpose in such a litany of a playlist I made for my own pleasure, but, in keeping with previous posts, will include it anyway.


To Ron Hardcastle. If you read the heading of this thread carefully, you will see that is says - "Now playing, Cast Recordings". The list of tracks that I posted was simply a copy of one of my playlists that was actually playing at that time.

If you read further, you will also see that, nowhere do I say..."Here is a list of all the Cast Recordings/ Soundtracks that I own ". For me too, that would run into hundreds and would be totally pointless !

Obviously, anyone remotely interested in this thread has a big collection of them too.

I was merely commenting that this is the sort of thing that i like listening to....how about you ?

Thanks for the put-down !

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

So this begs the question: What did you think of the movie version of "Jesus Christ Superstar"? I saw it, when it was first released, at the Cinerama Dome on Sunset in Hollywood, and just loved it, and found myself more moved by something religious than I thought possible. They had the music so loud that some little ladies around me had their hands pressed against their ears, but for me it was heaven. They released the movie on VHS and the audio was just awful, and years later a less than satisfactory DVD. But the Blu-ray was a definite improvement, and I love director Norman Jewison's audio commentary. That said, I normally don't care for movie versions of musicals I've loved on the stage.


I love Josh Mostel's take on Herod in the movie. My favorite recording of JCS is still the original LP recording.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: If you read further, you will also see that, nowhere do I say..."Here is a list of all the Cast Recordings/ Soundtracks that I own ". For me too, that would run into hundreds and would be totally pointless!

Obviously, anyone remotely interested in this thread has a big collection of them too.

I was merely commenting that this is the sort of thing that i like listening to....how about you ?

Thanks for the put-down !


Sorry. I didn't mean it as a put down -- I had just posted something about discussions straying from the original intent of the person who started them and then saw this and felt that it seemed that you were straying a bit, but I stand corrected.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

So this begs the question: What did you think of the movie version of "Jesus Christ Superstar"? I saw it, when it was first released, at the Cinerama Dome on Sunset in Hollywood, and just loved it, and found myself more moved by something religious than I thought possible. They had the music so loud that some little ladies around me had their hands pressed against their ears, but for me it was heaven. They released the movie on VHS and the audio was just awful, and years later a less than satisfactory DVD. But the Blu-ray was a definite improvement, and I love director Norman Jewison's audio commentary. That said, I normally don't care for movie versions of musicals I've loved on the stage.


I’ve never really liked the film. I’ve never been able to see it in the cinema (it was released the year I was bornwink), so I’ve had to make do with VHS and DVD. And you’re right Ron, the audio on the VHS I had for many years was dreadful. I don’t like the soundtrack recording either, I don’t listen to it. I don’t like the vocal mix and I don’t like the orchestrations used.

The 2000 filmed ‘stage production’ starring Glenn Carter I didn’t care for much either. Incidentally, I met Glenn Carter several times whilst working in theatre. Lovely fella.
Wasn’t there talk a while ago of a remake?

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Thomas: Born the year they released the movie version of "Jesus Christ Superstar"? I just assumed that your avatar was a picture of YOU, so that surprised me.

Let me tell you, in a big movie theatre with great audio, that film was a marvel! I went back a few times, each time taking others who were similarly thrilled by it. So you can imagine how depressed I was by the initial VHS release! Yuck! I later bought it on VHS/Hi-Fi Stereo, then DVD, and now the Blu-ray, which is the best I've heard and seen it since the big theatre, and on my very large HD screen and with surround sound audio it looks and sounds great. But you still can't beat it in the theatre with great sound. It was tremendous and nothing like watching it at home!!! And I've never had a problem with the singing on it.

How do you feel about the movie version of "Evita"? (And Irlanda? I didn't realize you were in Venezuela.)

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 4:31 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)



Broadway in a Box Disc 17 (Original Broadway Cast)

8 to go

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2013 - 4:54 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)



Sorry. I didn't mean it as a put down -- I had just posted something about discussions straying from the original intent of the person who started them and then saw this and felt that it seemed that your were straying a bit, but I stand corrected.

Ok, Ron. thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 2:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 2:34 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Thomas: Born the year they released the movie version of "Jesus Christ Superstar"? I just assumed that your avatar was a picture of YOU, so that surprised me.

Oh Dear Lord, Ronsmile John Barry is probably looking down on us with a wry smile...

How do you feel about the movie version of "Evita"?

I actually enjoy 'Evita'. I've never been a fan of Madonna, but I think she gives a good performance in it. Only problem I have with the film is I think the music is mixed too loud in some scenes. 'Phantom' is a different matter though. I had high hopes for that film, and was very disappointed. Didn't like it all, I thought they could have made it more darker and sinister, instead of the camp extravagance we got served up.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Just to chime in about "Jesus Christ - Superstar", anyone heard the 2006 Austrian production? It's available on CD (Here -> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ocr-Jesus-Christ-Superstar-Various/dp/B000LXIQRK/ref=sr_1_50?ie=UTF8&qid=1379584171&sr=8-50&keywords=jesus+christ+superstar ), and I'm getting a real kick out of listening to it a lot at the moment - there's some great stuff on there - superb band, some stunning singing.

 
 Posted:   Sep 19, 2013 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Interesting choice, Mr Greg. There are so many recordings it can be hard to keep up! I've heard the Australian Cast Recording is also very impressive.

Is anyone familiar with this by The Indigo Girls? Looks like a strange thing, mystifying to me...wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: I actually enjoy 'Evita'. I've never been a fan of Madonna, but I think she gives a good performance in it. Only problem I have with the film is I think the music is mixed too loud in some scenes. 'Phantom' is a different matter though. I had high hopes for that film, and was very disappointed. Didn't like it all, I thought they could have made it more darker and sinister, instead of the camp extravagance we got served up.

Thomas: I've never had much of a problem with the volume level of the music of "Evita." And I agree that the filmed "Phantom" was a disappointment. For me, my favorite part of the DVD of "Phantom" is a fascinating supplement about the history of the show and how it wasn't working with the original lyrics written for it unit they brought in the then very young Charles Hart to transform much of it. (As I recall, that part wasn't on the Blu-ray and I had to go back to the DVD to watch it, but I nay be wrong.) As I mentioned elsewhere, I love the 25th anniversary performance of "Phantom" at Albert Hall and have it on Blu-ray, but was horrified that they erased Sarah Brightman's thrilling contributions at the end when they released the music on CD, so I had to record her part off the Blu-ray" -- that thrilling finale with all those former Phantoms, including Colm Wilkinson, wasn't the same without Brightman.

And thanks again for the video from the 2000 Los Angeles production of "Martin Guerre," which, as I wrote, seems pale in comparison to how I remember it from the 6 times I saw it. Interestingly, one day one of the 2 principals, Buntrock or Panaro, was out, and José Llana, who was so great in his regular role as Guillaume, stepped into the role, and while his singing was terrific, he looked SO different from the other one, mainly significantly SHORTER, stretching audience credulity that anyone could possibly confuse the 2 of them. Unfortunately that was the performance in which a couple of friends I had been repeatedly exhorting to go finally went, and they were quite disappointed, partially because of that improbable replacement casting!

And Thomas, I'm embarrassed that I didn't recognize John Barry in your little avatar!!! He was the greatest.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Interesting choice, Mr Greg. There are so many recordings it can be hard to keep up! I've heard the Australian Cast Recording is also very impressive.

The one with John Farnham? Yes - it's good...completely re-orchestrated, and some arrangements may not be to purists tastes, but there's more good than bad (in my opinion).

The Austrian one I mentioned above is a little misleading - it's all in English (apart from one spoken section towards the end, which replaces part of the music - I guess they just couldn't get a translation to fit?). Orchestrations are pretty close to original, except for a few tweaks here and there.

BTW - I've played trumpet in maybe 100 different shows in various pit orchestras around the UK - JC Superstar is still my favourite to play!! Closely followed by "Guys & Dolls", I think...

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 7:57 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Mr. Greg: There seem to be a lot of us trumpet players out here! Now I stopped taking lessons and playing in the band as I reached 7th grade, but six years later, when I was a marine, I still had my trumpet and wrote out the notes for "Midnight In Moscow," very popular at the time, which I played a lot, along with "Taps." As I wrote elsewhere, one of my greatest mistakes was giving up playing music. In the discussion about the Ewan McGregor movie "Brassed Off," I wrote about the brass band recording of the familiar theme from Rodrigo's "Concierto de Aranjuez," and would LOVE to be able to play the trumpet that well! It's "En Aranjuez Con Tu Amor" played by The Grimethorpe Colliery Band, and you can download it from the soundtrack to "Brassed Off" at online music stores, and it's well worth it, whether you pay 99 cents at iTunes or 16 cents at gomusic.com.

 
 Posted:   Sep 20, 2013 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I don't think that I've seen any mention here of Lloyd Webber's "Love Never Dies," his kind of sequel to "Phantom," which has grown on me. I had a few problems with the Australian film of the show that some of us watched on PBS (and which I bought on Blu-ray), but prefer the CDs of it with Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess, and love it that the 2 of them also did the 25th anniversary performance of "Phantom" at Albert Hall. The show "Love Never Dies" is quite polarizing, with some loving it and others hating it, and there's also the controversy over the biggest hit of the show coming from the recycling of the melody of "Our Kind Of Love" from the Lloyd Webber show "The Beautiful Game." For me, it reminded me of when Lloyd Webber played "Memory" for a friend many many years ago and asked him if it sounded too much like Puccini and he replied that it sounded like a million dollars to HIM! I can't imagine "Love Never Dies" WITHOUT the title song, although I include both versions of it as well as some instrumentals (such as the one by cellist and brother Julian Lloyd Webber) at the end of my "Love Never Dies" iPod playlist.

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2013 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)



Broadway in a Box Disc 18 (Original Broadway Cast)

7 to go

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2013 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: Lerner & Lowe's "My Fair Lady" -- they just don't make 'em like that anymore!!!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2013 - 10:39 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

This could be a long reply!! Haha....

Mr. Greg: There seem to be a lot of us trumpet players out here!

Yes, there does seem to be quite a few....but there are many other musicians on this board too...perhaps we are just noisier wink


As I wrote elsewhere, one of my greatest mistakes was giving up playing music.

It's never too late to pick it up again - you can pick up a half-decent used trumpet for about $200-250, you would just have to spend the time getting the right mouthpiece for you....but sersiouly - never too late to pick it up again...and you might be surprised how much you remember.


In the discussion about the Ewan McGregor movie "Brassed Off," I wrote about the brass band recording of the familiar theme from Rodrigo's "Concierto de Aranjuez," and would LOVE to be able to play the trumpet that well! It's "En Aranjuez Con Tu Amor" played by The Grimethorpe Colliery Band

Yes, long time fan of the CD, and have played that piece many times on Flugelhorn - it's a lovely piece.


I don't think that I've seen any mention here of Lloyd Webber's "Love Never Dies," his kind of sequel to "Phantom," which has grown on me.

I love this show - was lucky enough to see it during it's brief West End run, with Ramin Karimloo and Sierra Boggess...it really was a spectacular production, it was just a shame that it didn't seem finished, if you get my meaning...of course, it's closed now (in the West End, anyway)...I hope it comes back in a yet more-improved format at some point in the future...


...there's also the controversy over the biggest hit of the show coming from the recycling of the melody of "Our Kind Of Love" from the Lloyd Webber show "The Beautiful Game."...

...except that "Our Kind Of Love" was a recycling of a song called "My Heart Is Slow To Learn", which was memorably performed by Kiri Te Kanawa at one of Lloyd Webber's brithday concerts (I can't remember which!), and was introduced as being a song that would eventually form part of a Phantom sequel...when the show went on the backburner he repurposed it, but was never happy with how it fitted in to TBG, so replaced it yet again and it finally found it's way back to the Phantom follow-up...

 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2013 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Mr. Greg: Wow! Fascinating details there! It was interesting to compare the audio recording of "Love Never Dies" with the Australian video I saw on PBS and quickly bought on Blu-ray -- felt the ending was more poignant as the Phantom, as I recall, sings a bit of "Love Never Dies" with his son there, over the body of Christine. Although I've now forgotten it, something popped up on my screen last week about a new Lloyd Webber show about to open. What do you know about it?

 
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