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May 19, 2013 - 8:36 PM
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dan the man
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TO MICHAEL 24- FANBOY- why do you say I have no interest in John Carpenter's film, I never said I have no interest, Did JOHN SIMON have no interest on plays he panned years ago. It seems to me what you are saying is a person has no interest in something if they don't agree with you on a subject you love.It just does not seem to get through here that whatever you feel about a creative project it is just YOU, as it is just ME Let me ask you a question if someone put a thread on that said PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE is coming out on BLUE RAY, and said well I think ED Wood was not that bad a director but he try to make a epic with so little money and very few really did try that in Hollywood. Then by the third or fourth response to the thread, a man says well I really feel PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE is a turkey and so is the career of ED wood. Would a few people pick on that guy because he says his opinion on that subject.My point is it is not a matter who is the turkey, which is just an opinion, the point is your playing a double standard game. I cpuldn't care one iota, if you and your pals when someone is having a GEORGES DELERUE THREAD OR A PETER CUSHING THREAD, you come in and say, I think both Georges and Peter are overrated and are not very good, If anything I would invite such open minded opinions, that's the difference between you and me.
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May 20, 2013 - 1:19 AM
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Francis
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Dan the troll, reality check. No one is debating your right to call Prince of Darkness a turkey, however when you CONTINUE to call John Carpenter as a person a turkey (no doubt you've met him during your colorful career at Fangoria), and basically piss all over his career, that reeks of trolling to me. Especially in a thread that by its very nature (an announcement of a blu-ray for Prince of Darkness) will attract fans of said movie who are not looking to defend it (not everything has to be a debate).
You then continue to troll us with your boring philosophy about the board and how it's not what you want it to be, yet you continue to troll it as is evident here. At least Yor is funny (at times).
As if that is not enough, you have now officially "party pooped" this thread and in true "socially frustrated label producer" fashion, CONTINUE yet again to call the people in it "fan boys" and "babies" and made this about your right to piss all over John Carpenter. I wonder what triggered your trolling for this thread as I can't recall you taking out your little man and hosing down Carpenter, his movies and basically his fans in previous threads. Sometimes I think you are just on this board to conduct your own psychological experiment, honestly.
So, as MacReady said in that Carpenter movie with just some good moments: "YEAH, FUCK YOU TOO!".
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May 20, 2013 - 7:06 PM
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dan the man
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TO FRANCIS- I only called john carpenter A TURKEY once, what am I suppose to call him my friend? There are some people who are very talented but are not nice people, There are also some people who are talented and they are nice people. There are some people who have little talent and are also not nice. Then there are people with little talent who are good people, Now as for his talent, I did a essay, 300 page one, on how I felt in genre history the new hip genre directors of the 70's I felt were not great talent, There career of films were like a rollercoaster ride. IN the book I listed guys like Romero, Hooper, Craven Croenberg, Carpenter etc. Actually many people and critics might agree with me, of course the hardcore fans won't. These guys came into the scene with cult hits but a lot of their later efforts were not that good. I feel MR Carpenter is the most overrated of the bunch and the least talented. As a man I think he help hurt his own films but thinking he is a very good film composer, while I think it is his ego.Plus I don't agree with any of his viewpoints on the world. However TO EACH ONE'S OWN but there is no need for cursing, I think that just lower's the debate here.
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May 20, 2013 - 7:27 PM
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dan the man
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TO FRANCIS- Why did you bring up FANGORIA? where did that get started. I was a filmmaker who used to deal with Fangoria, one of my line producers worked at fangoria,he thought it was shit and quit after 2 weeks, I turned down a job at fangoria,.I did however write loads of screenplays and got Richard Brooks interested in directing one of my films. But in all fairness I think there has to be a little bit of variety here with different viewpoints., What was wrong with SISKEL AND EBERT fighting it out, That is what makes the world go round. Again as I mentioned about THE GEORGE RAFT STORY- by being denied the right to have some opinions on people it goes against the roots of what a democracy should be.But you guys acting this way, cursing and all does not make things better, I never insulted anyone on this board unless they hit me first and if you think about it, that is just about the truth.i will say it again if you don't like something I like, feel free hit it, You think HAMMER STUDIOS WAS GARBAGE, THEN SAY IT. BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME FREEDOM.
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May 21, 2013 - 4:14 AM
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Francis
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TO FRANCIS- I only called john carpenter A TURKEY once, what am I suppose to call him my friend? There are some people who are very talented but are not nice people, There are also some people who are talented and they are nice people. There are some people who have little talent and are also not nice. Then there are people with little talent who are good people, Now as for his talent, I did a essay, 300 page one, on how I felt in genre history the new hip genre directors of the 70's I felt were not great talent, There career of films were like a rollercoaster ride. IN the book I listed guys like Romero, Hooper, Craven Croenberg, Carpenter etc. Actually many people and critics might agree with me, of course the hardcore fans won't. These guys came into the scene with cult hits but a lot of their later efforts were not that good. I feel MR Carpenter is the most overrated of the bunch and the least talented. As a man I think he help hurt his own films but thinking he is a very good film composer, while I think it is his ego.Plus I don't agree with any of his viewpoints on the world. However TO EACH ONE'S OWN but there is no need for cursing, I think that just lower's the debate here.
Dan, first off I'm not your friend. Nothing personal, but I don't know you nor want to know you. Second, I don't believe you wrote anything remotely for a magazine, (which you claimed you have in an argument with Daniel Schweiger), movie script or anything else that involves pen and paper judged from the amount of bad grammar in your writing. Third, this answer you're giving is a huge contrast with what you said earlier and at least makes some sense.
Though I fail to see why Carpenter 'would hurt his movies by thinking he is a good film composer', which you claim, but from the interviews I've read and the panel discussions I've seen, every time he's asked about his scores he dismisses it as something he did fast and cheap, and isn't gloating about it. So I don't really get that vibe from him that he's proclaiming to be God's gift for composing? Nor do I feel he'd ever trade directing for film composing as his passion is clearly for the former. His viewpoints on the world I'm not familiar with and I don't see as particularly relevant to his genre of movies.
I never insulted anyone on this board unless they hit me first and if you think about it, that is just about the truth.i will say it again if you don't like something I like, feel free hit it, You think HAMMER STUDIOS WAS GARBAGE, THEN SAY IT. BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOME FREEDOM.
And I'm also free to say that most of what you claim to pass for an opinion, which you're free to state, you pull out of your ass with the only intent of provocation and trolling.
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May 21, 2013 - 8:03 PM
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dan the man
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Personally, of course to each one's own, I think a thread which has headlines like WILLIAM CASTLE UNDERATED OR OVERATED, TALENTED OR A HACK is much more honest and interesting then one where everyone has to agree the man or movie is wonderful. This way if a person offers a different viewpoint on the artist or film he won't be attack as I was. Less segregated threads of only compliments towards a subject and more diverse opinions would be more interesting and informative. Let's say what we think instead of being afraid and force into conformity, I remember when my family saw STAR WARS in the theatre, my brother in law loved it, my sister thought it was good, my mother fell asleep, my father was pretty bored and I liked the effects but little else. So the point is, if someone said he felt the film was a turkey, it is silly to insult the person, everyone has their own likings.
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May 22, 2013 - 6:38 PM
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dan the man
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TO DRAKAPA-Yeah remember that, terrible was it not, simply telling people I am leaving, you know like MALEFICIO , BOB DIMICI, JS WALSH ETC ETC, I mean sure I should be ashamed of myself,i should have just vanished for good without saying anything after posting so many threads. I should go to confession for that, right. by the way I like your profile- BEAST OF BLOOD-fun movie, yeah , one of my first movie jobs. Remember Sam Sherman, cool guy, send him my screenplays, interesting man, a bit cynical though.
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May 24, 2013 - 12:29 AM
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Cooper
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I love 'POD'! An uncompromised distillate of The Carpenter Sensibility at its nihilistic best. I mean, Super Concentrated! ...Like the swirling Doomsday Big Gulp of Green Satanic Goo in the church basement! And about as personal as they come from J.C. Didn't he have final cut on this one? The budget was small enough so he could pretty much do what he wanted; he scripted, he scored, he directed. No studio tinkering, from what I understand, apart from the MPAA threatening to slap it with an "X" rating. Was it the visual metaphor for all that diabolical liquid being sprayed at, around, and--in some cases--into people's faces/mouths? And bleak as all get out, with THE MOST CHILLING ENDING OF ALL TIME (indisputable). Grimly portentous, much, John Carpenter? And how, with 'Prince'! But that's how we Carpenators like 'em.
Hope it looks and sounds great. I have to get past the films before I hit the extras, and I rarely do. But I would love to hear Carpenter talk more in any commentary about one of his best, and most distinctive films.
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