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 Posted:   Aug 24, 2012 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   madmovyman   (Member)

I keep it with the other useless junk inside my limited edition wooden-army-box "1941" 3-DVD set.

Holy Shinola! Where can I get one of these?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2012 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

I'm 29 and first saw this movie 10 or so years ago. I loved it and I think it partly had to due with the idea that I had found this undiscovered gem: others hated it so I had to like it.

[sigh]

And then I watched it more recently and didn't enjoy it as much. There's still much to admire, from the visual effects to the music to the camerawork to the jitterbug contest (which is one of my favorite scenes in any Spielberg flick)...

...but I mostly see the flaws. I see Spielberg channeling the spirit of SNL and Animal House and failing. I see what Spielberg mentioned on the LD/DVD documentary: they had Belushi and often they just gave him random schtick to do (the business in the plane with the doll and the soup can).

I don't mind mayhem and I love a good physical gag as much as the next person but sometimes you need a little break!

(Of course, if they manage to pull off a miracle and release a good-looking Blu-Ray, I'll probably buy it.) smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2012 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I think that this was a post before, but anyway, great effects, a classic chaotic comedy that Spielberg can excel at, wow it was way too long though, and probably too many characters. Terrific set work and score though. It almost killed Steven's career from what I read. Imagine that.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2012 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)



Jaws? Wossat?


As you're saying "what's Jaws", I'm afraid I have to respond with;

"I'll have a pint of lager, cheers" smile


Groan.



Inevitably! big grin

Are you really a lager drinker, or was that for comedic effect?


Guilty as charged mate. And to add to the shame, I like American beers!

I do like guiness and also I always have a local bitter if I ever go anywehre new in the UK. But sorry to admit, I'm a Budweiser man mainly. My favorite beer is actually Michelob but that is almost impossible to find here in Essex.

You look like the sort of chap who likes real ale. Must be the beard!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2012 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I think that this was a post before, but anyway, great effects, a classic chaotic comedy that Spielberg can excel at, wow it was way too long though, and probably too many characters. Terrific set work and score though. It almost killed Steven's career from what I read. Imagine that.

I don't think it even came close to killing Spielberg's career to be honest. Maybe if his next couple of movies (Raiders and ET) had flopped but otherwise ai just think it was reputational damage and that the studios still thought he was bankable.

And let's be honest, if he thought there was any real danger if his career going down the pan, he'd have signed up to do a Close Encounters pdq. Interestingly, he did once claim he was going to do a sequel (CE4K) so perhaps that was his "banker" movie that he was keeping in his back pocket just in case things went tits up.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2012 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Holy Shinola! Where can I get one of these?

I honestly can't remember where I got mine, but if you Google "1941" and "army box" you can compare different sites, their prices and what forms of payment they accept. This guy takes PayPal, for instance . . .

http://www.cineshop-museum.com/boutique_us/fiche_produit.cfm?ref=DVDGU1941&type=3&code_lg=lg_us&num=5

Remember: to watch the discs themselves, you need an all-region player.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2012 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)



Jaws? Wossat?


As you're saying "what's Jaws", I'm afraid I have to respond with;

"I'll have a pint of lager, cheers" smile


Groan.



Inevitably! big grin

Are you really a lager drinker, or was that for comedic effect?


Guilty as charged mate. And to add to the shame, I like American beers!

I do like guiness and also I always have a local bitter if I ever go anywehre new in the UK. But sorry to admit, I'm a Budweiser man mainly. My favorite beer is actually Michelob but that is almost impossible to find here in Essex.

You look like the sort of chap who likes real ale. Must be the beard!


I'm an indifferent and indiscriminating drinker, to be honest. I like Asahi Dry and I enjoy Michelob too, but I don't drink enough of anything to claim to be a "insert name of drink here-man". I like Brew Dog's IPA and used to enjoy half-and-half but you can't get that anymore, it seems. Beer's all too strong nowadays - hence alot of the social problems arising from it. I'll also very occasionally have a snifter of Vodka, Southern Comfort, JD, rum and ginger - owt really. Not all together, obviously. At least, it's obvious to me. And recently we've discovered White Zinfandel, a delicious rose wine, and which I believe is a Californian grape. But I have "poor and unhappy brains for drinking".

And don't be fooled by the beard - I don't have the sandals or the scratchy jumper of a Camra-man.

Anyway, I've resolved to hunt out 1941 as a result of this thread, so I'll be able to contribute knowledgably in future.

 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Gee, they'll call anyhing a "classic" nowadays . . .

Friday night at 10pm Turner Classic Movies airs Spielberg's "1941":

http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article/194385%7C0/1941.html

I guess the only reason to catch it is if you don't already have a tape of the shorter theatrical cut in the letterbox format.

 
 
 Posted:   May 26, 2013 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Yes, enjoyable film , and since I am on the topic, I loved LEE'S comic performance playing a Nazi fighting with the Japanese military crew. Also love J.W'S great march. Hyper with a capital H.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Anyone know why the photography is so *hazy* looking in this film? Was that deliberate? I know the existing DVD is not hi-def, but that doesn't explain how foggy this film has *always* looked, even in theaters....

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 4:15 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Anyone know why the photography is so *hazy* looking in this film? Was that deliberate? I know the existing DVD is not hi-def, but that doesn't explain how foggy this film has *always* looked, even in theaters....

It was the start of Spielberg's love affair with the over-saturated look that he now employs on the vast majority of his films and which I think is horrible. I commented on this earlier in this thread and said then it was the only aspect of '41 I didn't enjoy.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Anyone know why the photography is so *hazy* looking in this film? Was that deliberate? I know the existing DVD is not hi-def, but that doesn't explain how foggy this film has *always* looked, even in theaters....

It was the start of Spielberg's love affair with the over-saturated look that he now employs on the vast majority of his films and which I think is horrible. I commented on this earlier in this thread and said then it was the only aspect of '41 I didn't enjoy.


I thought it was atmospheric so the numerous miniature scenes would blend in better? They used the "smoke room" (?) a lot back then to defuse light and give model work a sense of scale.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 3:32 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Cinematography was one of this film's three Oscar nominations (along with visual effects and sound).

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 4:07 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

The existing DVD / HD transfer ( at least the transfer used on Sony's HD channel ) is in need of an upgrade. The Sony HD version is just too fuzzy / foggy. Even the daylight scenes are too ill-defined. I love the movie despite all the flaws and insane indulgences big grin.

A nice remastered & restored Bluray would be perfect.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   GreatGonzo   (Member)

Twilight Time, Twilight Time, Twilight Time...

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Twilight Time, Twilight Time, Twilight Time...


Noooooooooooo that'd be a $30 Blu Ray that sells out before the actual release date frown

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2013 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

"You ain't gettin' shit out of me!"

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2013 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I know I'm in the minority, but I love this movie! I love the energy and spirit of the film. It's a fun movie. It also has a great cast and score.

I has a Its A Mad Mad Mad World quality, and I like both of these films. It is very flawed and too long, but a lot of films that I like are flawed.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Still no Blu-ray.frown

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Anyone know why the photography is so *hazy* looking in this film?

I thought it was atmospheric so the numerous miniature scenes would blend in better? They used the "smoke room" (?) a lot back then to defuse light and give model work a sense of scale.


Holy shit, Herb, solium is right (sorry, solium, I couln't resist) but that is indeed what I read in American Cinematographer years ago. For some reason, I forget why, they started filming the miniatures first, before the live-action, and Bill Fraker smoked up the stages and used heavy diffusion to help hide the wires on the model panes and sell the sense of scale, as solium stated; then they carried that over into the main production shoot to make the photography match.

The movie is long overdue a good quality hi-def remastering, but it's definitely a film with a cult appeal.

 
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