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Bumping this thread. There is now a German blu-ray of this title - avoid at all costs - it literally has almost no color after the first five minutes.
All of the DVDs listed above are substandard. The DVD you'll want for now is from France - from a label called Wild Side Video. The transfer is from a French print (probably IB Tech, which doesn't transfer perfectly), has pretty accurate color, is reasonably sharp and upscales very well, and, best of all, is anamorphically enhanced for widescreen TVs. One large downside - forced French subtitles, but I can live with those because the image quality is so far above every other version - I have every one listed above including the laserdisc, but this beats them all by a country mile. Not perfect, but until Paramount lets someone have the elements or does something with them themselves, it's the best we've got.
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The color most certainly has not been re-timed and the film should have a lot of blue. IB Tech was known for it's blues - if you expect it to look like the yellow and brown crap they make today, well, no. I know this film intimately and the Wild Side is the only one that even approximates the correct color.
But I'll be we can figure this out right now - do you think the DVD and blu-ray of The Searchers has good color? If so, then you simply don't know what these films should look like - The Searchers' color is a travesty - way too much yellow. I love IB Tech and I love films from this era, especially westerns, and I love when they get the color right - and yes, that color will have lots of BLUE. BLUE is our friend for older color films.
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God, I love this movie. Can't anyone rescue it? It's too great to die of PD neglect.
No studio Santa's knee to sit on....
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Aug 14, 2011 - 6:37 PM
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Richard-W
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haineshisway:
I guess you missed the part of my post that said that it had come out on blu-ray in Germany and the part where I said avoid it at all costs. But thanks for reiterating.
Don't thank me. I didn't miss it. I ignored it.
I started this thread and I will be updating it from time to time regardless of what you say about things.
My update was prepared before I read the new posts.
haineshisway:
A simple look at the caps you posted will tell you there is no blue bias to the Wild Side - it's not perfect, color-wise, but it's the only one that comes close. There is no debate on this, I'm afraid. If you did not see this when it came out it doesn't really matter if you saw an IB print (and I have no idea if you really did or not) - because IB prints that are shown privately are shown on projectors with Xenon lamps - which, wait for it, have a yellow bias. IB prints were all timed for carbon arc lamphouses, which gave a truer and bluer light. I go to a friend's screening room all the time - he shows amazing IB prints, usually every week. They all look yellow and nothing like they should. Why? His projector lamps. I miss carbon-arcs - as big as a pain in the ass as they were.
You're ridiculous.
You don't know. That's right, since you weren't there, you don't know, so maybe you should shut up. The Paramount laser-disc is sourced from original VistaVision elements that are color-accurate and therefor the laser-disc is color-accurate. I will not be told how One-Eyed Jacks is supposed to look by someone who says the film is supposed to be blue.
Richard
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Wow. Someone seems a tad, shall we say, TESTY today. 
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haineshisway:
I guess you missed the part of my post that said that it had come out on blu-ray in Germany and the part where I said avoid it at all costs. But thanks for reiterating.
Don't thank me. I didn't miss it. I ignored it.
I started this thread and I will be updating it from time to time regardless of what you say about things.
haineshisway:
A simple look at the caps you posted will tell you there is no blue bias to the Wild Side - it's not perfect, color-wise, but it's the only one that comes close. There is no debate on this, I'm afraid. If you did not see this when it came out it doesn't really matter if you saw an IB print (and I have no idea if you really did or not) - because IB prints that are shown privately are shown on projectors with Xenon lamps - which, wait for it, have a yellow bias. IB prints were all timed for carbon arc lamphouses, which gave a truer and bluer light. I go to a friend's screening room all the time - he shows amazing IB prints, usually every week. They all look yellow and nothing like they should. Why? His projector lamps. I miss carbon-arcs - as big as a pain in the ass as they were.
You're ridiculous.
You don't know. That's right, since you weren't there, you don't know, so maybe you should shut up. The Paramount laser-disc is sourced from original VistaVision elements that are color-accurate and therefor the laser-disc is color-accurate. I will not be told how One-Eyed Jacks is supposed to look by someone who says the film is supposed to be blue.
Richard
I'M ridiculous? I think it's obvious who is ridiculous here and - hint - it's not me. I posted information about the German blu-ray and its quality and you ignored it so you could post the same information as if you'd thought of it? Have I got that right. Insane much? You don't know WHAT the laserdisc was sourced from and the one thing I can guarantee you is that it was NOT sourced from any VistaVision element because it was not possible to do so back then. It was sourced from an internegative. As to timing, you have no idea who did the timing or what they based that timing on. I wasn't there for what? I WAS there when the film came out and I DID see it several times, and then I owned a 35mm IB print so I think that just makes me a little more knowledgeable about this particular film than you. I know it pains you but there it is. You will not be told anything that doesn't fit into your square compartmentalized little world - a world, BTW, which is based on what? Please enlighten everyone about your expertise in film and elements and what this film is supposed to look like. But it's easier to just be a twit that says "Shut up." The problem is if people who DO know these things shut up then fools like you have their inane posts taken as gospel. Someone has to post factual information and if that has to be me then it has to be me.
But this is who you are, so we shall await another offensively inane post from you.
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