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 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I don't really remember any official tie-ins in the UK, but there was a lot of buzz amongst those of us who liked the original series and a number of us flocked to the cinema on release eager to see how it translated onto the big screen. Disappointingly, as it turned out.

I'm pretty sure McD's or Burger King did some sort of promotion - I had a friend who collected everything like that and am sure he had a set of promotional cups or something, which IIRC had the most awful artwork on them.

But beyond that I can't recall much in the way of U.K. promotion.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

The McDonald's ST:TMP Happy Meals in nice, large photos.

http://www.startrekcomics.info/ustosstripsmcd.html

Holy crap, I remember that communicator toy thing with the rolling comic strip...wow.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

".....hearing Goldsmith's Triumphant music in 70 MM Six Track Dolby was phenomenal! "
-Zooba

In another thread I mentioned this as a 70mm release and was scolded that , in fact, they didn't have time to make prints in anything other than 35mm Dolby!!

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

TMP TV ad is the fourth commercial 1:00 or so into this commercial block from December 6, 1979. After the ad, there's a bit listing the three theaters where it was playing for those of you living in Indianapolis. IIRC it was a common practice for local stations to cut in and list where a film would be playing locally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROTRQMsyots&t=19s

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I always liked the movie, except for the -- as Sean Nethery called them -- "jammies" that passed for costumes. (Never saw the point of that; I always wished they'd just gone with the outfits from the classic series, as dated as that might appear, it IS the "Trek" look to me. Same with the sequels.) Anyway, I never understood the total vitriol aimed at the film by people who write it off as a complete misfire.... frown

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Having posted about this flick who knows how many times over my nineteen+ years at this here cyberspace pub, the only thing I want to say now is that all anyone had to see as to marketing was the trailer and from there on the movie sold itself. Yeah, many including me were disappointed for various reasons but it was still worth seeing. And that's the thing: This movie was made for Trekkers maybe Trekkers not alone but ultimately Trekkers and they were what was going to make this thing a box office success. And they did! So personally speaking the opinions of anyone looking at it from a standing-on-its-own position do not matter esp. if you were not a charter member. Your opinions were not all that important back then and they still aren't. Oh and the Director's Edition is an improvement. And within the context of the six-film franchise, this first one remains the one with the Big Picture Look and it Looks better with every viewing. Even for this originalist disappointee.

razz

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2017 - 8:09 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

I always liked the movie, except for the -- as Sean Nethery called them -- "jammies" that passed for costumes. (Never saw the point of that; I always wished they'd just gone with the outfits from the classic series, as dated as that might appear, it IS the "Trek" look to me. Same with the sequels.) Anyway, I never understood the total vitriol aimed at the film by people who write it off as a complete misfire.... frown

Someone involved with the production (costume designer?) said the original colors in TOS would be to over powering for the big screen, thus one of the reasons the outfits were changed, and pastel in color.

Roddenberry always forward thinking wanted uniforms that looked "spayed on", indicating some futuristic way of wearing clothing. Can't say the idea worked, or was appropriate for a "G" rated film. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 10, 2017 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

"Jammies" -- ironic, that, considering how costumer Robert Fletcher recalled, "The old uniforms reminded (Robert Wise) too much of pajamas." You'll find that on pg. 67 of RETURN TO TOMORROW, available at Amazon.com and wherever better books are sold, along with Fletcher's discussion of some of the reasoning behind the uniforms' "subdued" hues...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I don't really remember any official tie-ins in the UK, but there was a lot of buzz amongst those of us who liked the original series and a number of us flocked to the cinema on release eager to see how it translated onto the big screen. Disappointingly, as it turned out.

I'm pretty sure McD's or Burger King did some sort of promotion - I had a friend who collected everything like that and am sure he had a set of promotional cups or something, which IIRC had the most awful artwork on them.

But beyond that I can't recall much in the way of U.K. promotion.



Mike, we had neither McDonalds nor Burger King 300 miles north of London in 1979. I had to drive down to Leeds in the mid-80s to see what the fuss was about something called a "Big Mac".

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Roddenberry always forward thinking wanted uniforms that looked "spayed on", indicating some futuristic way of wearing clothing. Can't say the idea worked, or was appropriate for a "G" rated film. wink



I should say not. Fancy him wanting uniforms that looked as if a cat had been neutered on them!

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

"Jammies" -- ironic, that, considering how costumer Robert Fletcher recalled, "The old uniforms reminded (Robert Wise) too much of pajamas." You'll find that on pg. 67 of RETURN TO TOMORROW, available at Amazon.com and wherever better books are sold, along with Fletcher's discussion of some of the reasoning behind the uniforms' "subdued" hues...

A book I would love to buy just as soon as it's available as an ebook.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

"Jammies" -- ironic, that, considering how costumer Robert Fletcher recalled, "The old uniforms reminded (Robert Wise) too much of pajamas." You'll find that on pg. 67 of RETURN TO TOMORROW, available at Amazon.com and wherever better books are sold, along with Fletcher's discussion of some of the reasoning behind the uniforms' "subdued" hues...

One of the cool side stories probably only of interest to me was learning some of the artists that worked on the TMP went on to work for animator Don Bluth.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I saw it at the Sheffield ABC cinema, where they used to show films in full 70mm, and was totally blown away. .

I knew the Sheffield ABC. It was a wonderful cinema but Star Trek TMP wasn't shown there in 70mm or anywhere else on first release. I had expected there to be 70mm blow-ups but apparently, because of the rush to get it into cinemas, there was no time and it only played in 35mm. I saw it at the Empire, Leicester Square and the opening was preceded by massive publicity, including some the biggest billboards ever seen up to then. I liked the film. It had an epic quality which subsequent films in the series lacked. I thought the biggest problem was the acting. One was all too aware that these were not major big screen actors!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Absobloominlutely, Mr. Raynes. And that's the thing, all the long-suffering Trekkers wanted was another episode and they got one albeit a big fat fx-laden extravaganza episode...with the small screen cast. So #2 brought back the small screen gang and Ricardo M and the less overblown small screen look. The even bigger $$$$$$$ rolled in and kept on rolling.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Mildly off-topic, but perhaps relevant to the discussion:

I had been a Star Trek fan as a kid, and had some of the model kits. I also watched the show religiously in re-runs.

By the time the film came out, I was in high school, and even though I'd moved on to girls and punk/new wave, Star Trek was very much on my radar. For what it's worth, I remember hearing that the film was coming out, but there didn't seem to be a lot of hype or excitement. When the film was released, I didn't even bother going to see it, and it felt like it just kind of fizzled.

The following summer, I watched it on cable at a friend's house, and I think I had trouble staying awake through the whole thing.

I don't think I've ever watched it since, although I must have stumbled across it channel surfing over the years.

I've never cared for Goldsmith's theme. Is the rest of the album any good? I come across it for short dough all the time.

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 4:26 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

There are a couple of advertising tools for movies that spell desperation on the part of the studio or releasing entity.


Top of the list is a row headshots at the bottom of the one-sheet posters. This means you may get little else out of this movie other then star-watching.
Witness every Irwin Allen movie and slow-moving biblical epics.

2nd is audience interviews or, more recently, infra-red footage of a reactive audience. This means that despite the dreadful reviews and bad word-of-mouth from your friends there is someone out there who like this movie and you will too.
This is usually reserved for grade-c horror movies, but it will be very occasionally trotted out to bolster something like a ST-TMP. (problem here is that fan- and non fan- audiences of ST-TMP will probably look the same in infra-red...).

I don't remember an enormous ad push at the time (I was 12), but I do remember what were the first Happy Meals.
I did acquire a TMP Phaser water pistol some 7 or 8 yrs later.


And say What you will, somehow Disney managed to convince my teacher to take us Gifted 8th graders to see The Black Hole as a school field trip

 
 Posted:   Aug 11, 2017 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)


I'm pretty sure McD's or Burger King did some sort of promotion - I had a friend who collected everything like that and am sure he had a set of promotional cups or something, which IIRC had the most awful artwork on them.



I bet he asked for a plain burger big grin

 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Mildly off-topic, but perhaps relevant to the discussion:

I had been a Star Trek fan as a kid, and had some of the model kits. I also watched the show religiously in re-runs.

By the time the film came out, I was in high school, and even though I'd moved on to girls and punk/new wave, Star Trek was very much on my radar. For what it's worth, I remember hearing that the film was coming out, but there didn't seem to be a lot of hype or excitement. When the film was released, I didn't even bother going to see it, and it felt like it just kind of fizzled.

The following summer, I watched it on cable at a friend's house, and I think I had trouble staying awake through the whole thing.

I don't think I've ever watched it since, although I must have stumbled across it channel surfing over the years.

I've never cared for Goldsmith's theme. Is the rest of the album any good? I come across it for short dough all the time.


Your kidding right?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


I've never cared for Goldsmith's theme. Is the rest of the album any good? I come across it for short dough all the time.



Goldsmith fans often hold it up as a shining example of his craft, and there's more to it than just the march. There's a nice spiky theme for the Klingons, some mysterious Holst-like (some might say Holst-lite smile) music for the space cloud, and a delicate theme for one of the female aliens. If you're inclined towards the Goldsmith library I'd recommend giving it a try for yourself - you might love it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 12, 2017 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Your kidding right?

I am not. The rest of the world may not share your taste in music or film.

 
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