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 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I had to laugh at the sign language thing, a bit of a farce reallybig grin

 
 Posted:   Dec 12, 2013 - 6:59 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

the definition of unintentional comedy. But I can understand deaf people not being happy about this.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2013 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

WHAT is such a childish response to me. Like your on another planet and nobody can disagree with you.Like there are not millions of moderates or conservatives or just plain people who might not like people who associate with the communist party through their life or have extreme pro abortion viewpoints leading to a genocide. Like, yeah man real big difference, a infant just coming out of a mother's womb and the same life a few months before, I mean you kill it, either way it's deny living 80 or so years. Big difference., like time will decide the moral logic of a person's actions. I mean it's one thing having a viewpoint it's another thing being shock or surprised and so ignorant about the world you live in that many people don't quite think the heroes you make are really the wonderful people you make them to be. Like another bozo a few weeks ago people making a hero out of. Yeah I wonder how much money that man gave to the mob with all those hookers he was with in the 50's and 60's in Las Vegas, Got a good one John boy for you tonight and spread your blood money to the drug guys in the big cities yes where did that money go? let me see- .You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.People too often just want to see a censored version of people they want to make heroes out of. Of course even if any of this was not true which of course it is, [by the way did anyone see Mandela with Castro raising his hand like in some joyous victory manner?] I would like to leave this with you guys, if a person was making a point of how wrong it is to pick on somebody simply because of their color of their skin, why would they be so ignorant on killing millions and millions of lives because of size or a few months difference in one's life span?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2013 - 10:24 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

One more thing I want to say, I didn't start this thread, it is one of political vibes. There are many people who feel very different then you guys. If someone put a thread saluting say George Wallace and I could understand why many people would be perturb by that and someone responded like me in disagreement, that would be fine to a honest person like me. I would understand. Now who in the 20TH CENTURY killed more people THE communist regimes of the world or a demon like Hitler and I am not even talking about the abortion holocaust. Something is very slanted in this world to one side, thanks to the unfair media and we all know it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2013 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

Like with you there are not millions of moderates or just plain people who might not like people who to a genocide. Like yeah man real big difference a infant just coming out of a mother's womb and the same WHAT is such a childish response, like your on another planet and nobody can disagree 80 or so years. Big difference, like time will decide the moral logic of a person's actions. I mean it's one associate with a communist party through there life or have leading the world you live in that somebody or many many people don't quite think the heroes you make are really the life a few months before, I mean you kill it either way it's deny living making a hero out of. Yeah I wonder how much money that man gave to the mob with all those pro hookers having a viewpoint it's another thing being shock or surprised and so ignorant about John boy for you tonight and then where did that money go/let me see- guess- grow up. You can fool some wonderful people you make them to be people all of the time. People too often just want to see a censored or conservatives version of people they want to make heroes out he was with [by the way did anyone see him with Castro in the 50's and 60's in Las Vegas raising his hand like in some joyous victory manner.] I got a good one would of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people how wrong it is to pick on somebody simply because of their color of their skin, why would they be so, is, of. Of course even if any of this was not true which of course it ignorant on killing millions and millions of lives because of size or a few months difference in one's life span? Like another bozo a few weeks ago like to leave this with you guys, if a person was making a point of extreme abortion viewpoints thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2013 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO ESSANKAY-So like a little kid you mock somebody' s viewpoint with kindergarten antics.PROUD OF YOURSELF, I have never seen an adult which maybe you are not, act so much like a child as you do here.But a idiot like you probably couldn't even realize how stupid a idiot you are.It' won't help you any.

 
 Posted:   Dec 13, 2013 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

Really, have you no respect for the dead?

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 12:16 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

TO ESSANKAY-So like a little kid you mock somebody' s viewpoint with kindergarten antics.PROUD OF YOURSELF, I have never seen an adult which maybe you are not, act so much like a child as you do here.But a idiot like you probably couldn't even realize how stupid a idiot you are.It' won't help you any.


If someone gave you an enema you could sleep in a matchbox.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Do you have respect for all the dead cause by the man. Can anybody be so stupid as to not even understand one thing I said in that reply. Does anything click in your arrogant mind, Nothing, You don't say to me he had nothing to do with the communist because you know he did, which means what. You don't say he endorsed the most liberal abortion rights possibly in the world, because you know he did. Your so trite. Have some respect for yourself state a case of logic.I am stating facts. not opinions, what is the problem.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 12:18 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Do you have respect for all the dead cause by the man. Can anybody be so stupid as to not even understand one thing I said in that reply. Does anything click in your arrogant mind, Nothing, You don't say to me he had nothing to do with the communist because you know he did, which means what. You don't say he endorsed the most liberal abortion rights possibly in the world, because you know he did. Your so trite. Have some respect for yourself state a case of logic.I am stating facts. not opinions, what is the problem?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO ESSANKAY- So what point are you trying to make insulting me, all you doing is making yourself look like more of an idiot with every response.Are you making some racial issue here-well-17 million black babies wiped out in America. A cancer trend for African American woman, a recent report from China about a very likely devastating aftermath of the abortion act.Are you making a point about brotherhood, well how do millions of babies in South Africa get born to then worry about possible racism.They can't even get born.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm disappointed that the thread has taken a political turn (which means that it will be closed down shortly) and I'm also disappointed in dan the man's viewpoint on this. dan, you've always been whimsical and a bit all-over-the-place in your posts, but basically with a good heart deep down. Your view on this matter is a bit of a 'sting' (and surprise) for me -- if I understood you correctly; it's often difficult to find the crux of your posts since they're written so 'stream-of-consciousness'-style.

Of course, you're free to your opinion, but I don't think this was an appropriate place to post it in any case.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 1:40 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I asked earlier in the thread for dan the man to stay away if he wasn't prepared to pay tribute, but obviously that was too much to ask from him.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Imagine that: you live to the ripe age of 95, spend a considerable number of those years in prison, free a country from Apartheid - only to have an impostor as sign language interpreter at your memorial.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

You know what get's me here is the lack of honest thorough logic. What do we have in this world if a person who is given power or one who is not given power in this world to the youth of today when we judge people heroes because they may seem to do something very good a part of their lives, but horrific things in another part of their lives. It takes the common statement to err is human to a unprecedented dangerous and immoral level.In simple turns it is saying your ok. no less a hero because for years you might have seem to be a nice kind helpful person at the soup kitchen during the day but at night, you killed or destroyed people's lives. We all know a person like that would be in jail with very little pity given to them by the masses.Yet you don't see the damage society does to the public no less the youth with this kind of media damage given to people of power which is cause by little minds of little perceptions of the real world we live in.This type of censorship just makes things worst hoping for a better world.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Mandela was a freedom fighter before he was jailed. Quite rightlly, he came to the conclusion that peaceful means were incapable of influencing a brutal South African Government. He was jailed for 27 years. When released he worked for a unified South Africa and had no bitterness towards the people who had denied him 27 years of his life and oppressed the black majority. Truly a great man. IMO the main critisism of him is that he left the white minority still holding massive economic power whilst many black people continued to live in poverty.

Rest In Peace, Madiba.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

Imagine that: you live to the ripe age of 95, spend a considerable number of those years in prison, free a country from Apartheid - only to have an impostor as sign language interpreter at your memorial.

The Secret Service must have NOT been amused by the fact that the South African Government had someone they did not probably screen stand right next to Obama like that.

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Dan the man, stop pissing in this thread. Stay out of it. You have crapped in several RIP threads. It's tasteless and rude. If I see you in this thread again, your account will be suspended for a time. If you don't think I'm serious, try me.

DSS

 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

You're overheated Dan.

Note that both Bush was present in the memorial service, and the Dems, and heads of state from all over the joint.

Without getting political, you need to stop expecting absolute perfection from people. There's a psychological term, the 'good-enough parent'. Perfect parents are as impossible to find as they'd be dangerous if they existed!

Mandela did as well as anyone could ever be expected, and in power (or confronting power) there are moral ambiguities. Look at what's happening all over Africa, in S. Africa, Western Sahara, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Namibia, Mozambique, the Sahel, North and South Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Equatorial New Guinea, Nigeria, Ethiopia, the Congo, the Central African Republic, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Kenya, Mali, Algeria, Senegal, Rwanda, Namibia, Niger, Somalia, Lesotho, Liberia, Chad, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone .... these are only the most PUBLICISED flashpoints and tragedies in a continent still dominated unconsciously by old tribal and feudal systems, foreign exploitation, post-colonialism .....

You can get rid of the systems, but the old 'big chief' mentalities are still there, people become easily corrupted by power, and misappropriate the wealth they think they're entitled to. Mandela NEVER did that, he was a truly 20th Century leader in a thinly veiled still feudal continent. Have you any idea of the immensity of that milieu and its problems? D'you think people can be pure as the driven snow in negotiating it? He tried to pull stuff kicking and screaming into modernity.

Add to that the hassles he had in prison, with the ghastly Apartheid, with all the problems of poverty, militant Islam, malaria, a ferocious AIDS pandemic across the continent, dark occult stuff, genital mutilations ... it's endless. He had a go at tackling them all.

And with poverty levels as great as they are, do you begrudge his examining every option, including Marxism and birth control along the way? By the way, have you ever actually MET a Communist? They don't all have horns.


Having watched the N. Irish thing, I'm no friend of terrorists, but the straitjacket the ANC faced was far greater than we westerners in our ivory towers know anything about. Besides, he renounced violence anyhow.

And 'nil nisi bonum' anyhow. It looks like you're getting your strings pulled somewhere Dan, this isn't the real you. Bottom line is, Mandela suffered and did well. He was a 'hero' figurehead, he took up his cross and never relinquished it and was a true peacemaker.

You can't live in polarised naivete about how things get achieved. He did far better than most. Cartainly far better than any of us.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 14, 2013 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Mandela was a freedom fighter before he was jailed. Quite rightlly, he came to the conclusion that peaceful means were incapable of influencing a brutal South African Government. He was jailed for 27 years. When released he worked for a unified South Africa and had no bitterness towards the people who had denied him 27 years of his life and oppressed the black majority. Truly a great man. IMO the main critisism of him is that he left the white minority still holding massive economic power whilst many black people continued to live in poverty.

Rest In Peace, Madiba.


Very well said Peter. ( and WILLIAMDMCCRUM, excellent post sir )

The man was a giant of our times and the world is lesser without him.

 
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