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 Posted:   Nov 26, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

I love Hugo myself, and I still have yet to see it in 3d. I've read from more than one source that the 3d is especially effective (both in terms of how technically well-done it is, and in how it's used to the service of the greater film/story). Given how great I think the movie already is in 2d, I can only imagine the 3d version is fantastic, and of the 3d movies I haven't yet seen in 3d, it's probably the one I most want to.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2013 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Yes, you are immersed into Hugo's world. The train station, the the gears and workings of the clock, the streets of Paris. Every shot is pure cinema. I read a review of the disc that claimed it was plagued with cross-talk (ghosting). I saw not one instance of that. It seems that these reviewers are all using an Active 3D system. They need to switch to Passive. In fact, of all the films I've watched on my Passive set, I only ever noticed one instance (and it was truly an instance), of cross-talk. In the film YOGI BEAR, there is a quick shot of Yogi (at the beginning of the film), on a zip line. For about 1 second, the zip line is ghosted. That's it. This reviewer recommended the 2D version because of the problem. It has to be his set, or Blu-ray player, because there is nothing wrong with the 3D on the disc. Quite the opposite, it is a demo-worthy disc.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

I have a LG 42" LCD TV with 3D (and their 3D conversion) capability...took me a long time to get the 3D settings just how I wanted them, and it's worth taking the time over this (and their "TruMotion" is frickin' awful above about level 2!). Loving the 3D revolution, and hoping that "Pacific Rim" is waiting on my doormat when I get home today!

The "Ghosting" thing kinda bothers me...I'm not sure I've come across a film without it happening at some point - but so much is made of it and it's really only a very minor annoyance (if you notice it at all!)...

Next in the line-up to buy..."Predator"...

Never seen "Hugo"...not sire it's my type of film, but will grab it at some point for - by the sound of it - the "Wow" factor...

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

There is no ghosting on my television. Is your system Active or Passive? It seems to me, the Active system has the most issue with this. PACIFIC RIM looks and sounds great.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

There is no ghosting on my television. Is your system Active or Passive? It seems to me, the Active system has the most issue with this. PACIFIC RIM looks and sounds great.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

Agree 100% about HUGO as a movie John.

By the way, and well off topic, I was looking through some pictures the other day and came across that great one of you, Daniel Radcliffe and Robert Morse.

It reminded me of your kindness in acquiring for me and transatlantic shipping of the MAD MAD WORLD Blu Ray.

I never forget a favour. Please let me know if I can ever reciprocate.

Kind Regards,

Frank.

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

There is no ghosting on my television. Is your system Active or Passive? It seems to me, the Active system has the most issue with this. PACIFIC RIM looks and sounds great.

Passive...I don't know enough about how the 3D works to eliminate the possibility that it might be my settings that are the problem though...but it's not something that bothers me in the slightest and only occasionally pops up.

Yes - Pacific Rim does look rather good, doesn't it???

EDIT - ah - you know what? Given that I'm a relative noob to 3D, I've never compared what I was seeing as "ghosting" to anything else, or thought to do an image search or anything....your post made me look it up...yeah, what I was referring to as "ghosting" is clearly something else...I am pretty-much a ghosting free zone! What I THOUGHT we were referring to was what happens when you get an image that is intended to be very close to the viewer, and are unable to marry the two images together...this is clearly not what you were on about...so yeah, I don't see ghosts...

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

Agree 100% about HUGO as a movie John.

By the way, and well off topic, I was looking through some pictures the other day and came across that great one of you, Daniel Radcliffe and Robert Morse.

It reminded me of your kindness in acquiring for me and transatlantic shipping of the MAD MAD WORLD Blu Ray.

I never forget a favour. Please let me know if I can ever reciprocate.

Kind Regards,

Frank.


I had completely forgotten I even did that. So, obviously, no reciprocation is required. Thanks for the offer, though! I just spoke to Robert Morse, yesterday. He's a nut.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   mouse-ducks   (Member)

Hugo is splendid, story-, cinematography- and 3D-wise.
Very interesting extras, too, especially the one on Méliès.

The same goes for Life of Pi.

I haven't browsed through this discussion, so it may have been mentioned already: amazon.co.uk is having a special offer on a selection of 3D movies (£25 for 2); this has enabled me to get some recent titles that currently cost £20.

I was impressed by the conversion of Coraline (which already was a superb movie in 2D) and of Titanic, though I have not had time to watch this time yet; what I saw by skipping around was great.


Olivier

 
 Posted:   Nov 27, 2013 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I prefer TITANIC in 3D.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 6, 2014 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)


Has anyone seen Tron: Legacy? I've seen the 3D blu panned as flat and too subdued...and lauded as a top performing disc in the format.

I was curious how the neon, pin striped world of Tron might fare in 3D; this is a natively shot title, apparently sandwiched by opening and closing 2d segments and featuring breakout IMAX 1.78:1 set pieces . One reviewer was saying the minimal environments are exactly the problem, robbing the audience of frame of reference; a way to position objects and sense depth. Others just rave about how immersive and transporting it is.

Really polarizing, it seems.

I would pony up, hoping for super-neato...willing to settle for adequately immersive...but fearing a case of--expensive, Disney!--pancake flats.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 2:13 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I was not interested in a 3D TV, but I'm considering getting a 50-inch Vizio in anticipation for Gravity.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

I was not interested in a 3D TV, but I'm considering getting a 55-inch Vizio in anticipation for Gravity.

Greg Espinoza



I'm hoping Gravity...and Cameron's 3 planned Avatar sequels help revitalize interest in 3D television and Blu-ray 3D...which many are proclaiming dead with a leveling off of consumer interest. I have to think that the ridiculous industry pricing policy of 3D content...as well as confusion and perceived headaches over available tech--active versus passive--have had something to do with waning enthusiasm. With an end to this 'format war'--passive seems to be gaining in populairty--and if studios actually start incentivizing sales of 3D dics, they might be able to right the ship...

Now about that 'Tron: Legacy' 3D Blu... Anyone? Anyone?

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2014 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)



Don't forget this little Opus.......so that we can Brush Up Our Shakespeare.

And see how big the actors look in 3-D ! big grin








 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2014 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

I finally saw AVATAR. I completely skipped it due to its off-putting trailers. I saw 2 different ones (one in IMAX 3D), and was completely turned off to the idea of ever seeing it. Now, with 3D television, I'm always looks for content. I enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but it was nowhere near as horrible as the trailers implied it would be. Wonderful 3D. HOUSE OF WAX, however, remains the 3D king. As for TRON LEGACY, I saw that in theaters and was not all that blown away by its 3D. I do not own the disc, but my son does. I need to ask him what he thinks of it. I have JOURNEY2 MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, yet to watch. I've heard excellent things about its 3D.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2014 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Recently watched The Wolverine in 3D on our 50" Sony. Impressive.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2014 - 3:09 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

I've only just entered the world of BluRay and while I can play 3D on it (my TV can't, plus it's only 720p) I don't imagine I ever will. The few 3D experiences my wife and I have had (Avatar, John Carter, Oz the great and powerful, Hobbit part 1 and a couple of others I don't remember) haven't really sold us on the experience though my wife needs strongish glasses to see (stigmatism in one eye) so she finds it doesn't work so well for her.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 15, 2014 - 4:30 PM   
 By:   Cooper   (Member)

I finally saw AVATAR. I completely skipped it due to its off-putting trailers. I saw 2 different ones (one in IMAX 3D), and was completely turned off to the idea of ever seeing it. Now, with 3D television, I'm always looks for content. I enjoyed it. I didn't love it, but it was nowhere near as horrible as the trailers implied it would be. Wonderful 3D. HOUSE OF WAX, however, remains the 3D king. As for TRON LEGACY, I saw that in theaters and was not all that blown away by its 3D. I do not own the disc, but my son does. I need to ask him what he thinks of it. I have JOURNEY2 MYSTERIOUS ISLAND, yet to watch. I've heard excellent things about its 3D.


Just snapped up Avatar myself. A steal at its current price-point, I bought it on technical grounds alone. Glad I did, given the immersiveness the first few minutes. I'd seen it in theaters, but not since. The 3D is actually more aggressive than a lot of the films made since with the same camera system. It's dazzling, almost numbingly so...which is why I've been watching it in pieces and quitting when my eyes feel gorged. I hope Cameron breaks things up a bit with his sequels and isn't afraid to balance eye candy with occasional restraint. Otherwise, "awesome" gets boring. It doesn't help that for me, Avatar's an exercise in narrative tedium. That said, for the occassional pop-in, it's great demo material of what I agree is LG's fantastic passive 3D.

Thanks for the feedback on Tron. I'll let you know how it plays on an LG if I pull the trigger on a copy.


--Coop


Other "native 3D" recommendations benefitting from the Red camera system (Avatar):

Resident Evil: Afterlife
Resident Evil: Retribution
Underworld: Awakening

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2014 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

47 or 50 would be fine. The one advantage that Active has over Passive, is that you can go really big on the picture, and you're fine, because it's using the shutters of the glasses to give the effect. On a Passive set, it's using the lines of resolution to do that. The bigger the set, I would think the more aware you become of the lines. However, I'm no expert on the subject. I used to think that you had to go much bigger for the 3D experience, and it's not true. I first saw the LG Passive, on a 42 inch model, and I was sold.

I have an active 3d system on a 100 inch projected from a projector picture and I couldn't be happier with it. Some of my favorite 3d titles are JURASSIC PARK and TINTIN.

 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2014 - 6:10 AM   
 By:   Scotty Boy   (Member)

Passive 3D has made great strides in quality in the past couple of years, but it still doesn't equal the quality of a good active system. I've had my 58-inch Panasonic plasma for about 3 years now, and it is still far and away better than any passive system on the market.

That said, I'm considering a second 3D television for my game room (probably in the 42-inch range) and am seriously considering going passive. Wearing the passive glasses is just easier on the eyes than the active glasses.

"Hugo," "Avatar" and "The Adventures of Tin Tin" are great examples of how good 3D can be, and I am looking forward to adding "Gravity" to my collection as well. For older movies, "Dial M For Murder" has a lot of ghosting issues, but I think that the original source is the issue. "Creature From The Black Lagoon" is surprising very nice in 3D. Out of curiosity, I got the 3D conversion of "The Wizard of Oz" and found it to be completely unnecessary. While it was a very well done conversion, it just did not add anything to the movie.

Anyway, that's my ramblings on the subject. I hope 3D is here to stay, because when done well, it adds so much to the movie experience.

 
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