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no wives!!! i refuse to talk to wives!!! just a suggestion mr member but you may wanna wait a day or so with the regularity of these western threads - just to give the forum inhabitants a chance to consider their selections and thinking time to post and a greater gap will also get you more replies. wot no Duck you sucker??? scandalous!
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Little Big Man (1970) Arthur Penn Valdez Is coming (1970) Edwin Sherrin Big Jake (1971) George Sherman Gui La Testa (1971) Sergio Leone Lawman (1971) Michael Winner Jeremiah Johnson (1972) Sydney Pollack The Life & Times Of Judge Roy Bean (1971) John Huston Ulzana's Raid (1972) Robert Aldrich Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid (1973) Sam Peckinpah Blazing Saddles (1974) Mel Brooks The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) Clint Eastwood id take cinemascopes near perfect list and just add:- Billy two hats, monte walsh, great northfield minnesota raid, spikes gang, Doc, Hunting party, chatos land, bad company, shootout, breakheart pass, culpepper cattle company, last hard men and my name is nobody and Companeros. maybe the Cowboys.
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Bad Company (1972) Blazing Saddles (1974) Duck You Sucker (1972) The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid (1972) Hearts of the West (1975) Junior Bonner (1972) The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean (1972) Little Big Man (1970) McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971) My Name is Nobody (1973) Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973) Posse (1975) Wild Rovers (1971) There's a kind of farewell to the classic western by the mid-1970s: Posse ends with disillusion, Blazing Saddles makes fun of the whole genre, and Hearts of the West is about the beginnings of the movie western.
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oh alrite then, Watt, stand easy. The cowboys. although i think Rio Lobo was better. and The shootist come to think of it. but its worth it for wayne and Dern.
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westerns took a burst of bullets in the gut with the wild bunch - stumbled about clutching their wounds and went very thoughtful and melancholy for a few years - or cracked jokes - and died proper seven years later with Josey wales.
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Jul 27, 2014 - 1:16 PM
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Many westerns were released throughout the 1970s but it seems people have forgotten about them. These are all good westerns with something new and original to offer. Some of them -- like McCabe & Mrs. Miller, The Cowboys, Ulzana's Raid, Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, Heartland, The Long Riders -- achieve greatness. 1980 Tom Horn -- directed by William Wiard. The Long Riders -- written by the Keach brothers, directed by Walter Hill. Heaven's Gate -- directed by Michael Cimino. 1979 The Sacketts -- written Louis L'Amour, directed by Robert Totten. Mr. Horn -- written by William Goldman, directed by Jack Starret. Eagle's Wing -- directed by Anthony Harvey. 1978 Heartland -- directed by Richard Pearce. Goin' South -- directed by Jack Nicholson. Comes a Horseman -- directed by Alan J. Pakula, photographed (wow!) by Gordon Willis. 1977 Another Man, Another Chance (USA / France) -- directed by Claude Lelouch 1976 The Shootist -- written by Glendon Swarthout, directed by Don Siegel. The Outlaw Josey Wales -- ponderous, redundant version directed by Clint Eastwood. The Missouri Breaks -- written by Thomas McGuane, directed by Arthur Penn. From Noon til Three -- written and directed by Frank Gilroy. 1975 I Will Fight No More Forever -- directed by Richard T. Heffron. Hearts of the West -- directed by Howard Zieff. 1974 Zandy's Bride (USA / Sweden) -- directed Jan Troell. 1973 The Red Pony -- written by John Steinbeck, script and directed by Robert Totten. Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid -- written by Rudolph Wurlitzer, directed by Sam Peckinpah. 1972 When the Legends Die -- directed by Stuart Miller. Ulzana's Raid -- written by Alan Sharp, directed by Robert Aldrich. Pocket Money -- directed by Stuart Rosenberg. The New Land (USA / Sweden) -- directed by Jan Troell. Junior Bonner -- directed by Sam Peckinpah. Jeremiah Johnson -- directed by Sydney J. Pollack. The Cowboys -- directed by Mark Rydell. Buck and the Preacher -- directed by Sidney Poiter and Joseph Sargent. The Bounty Man -- written by Jim Byrnes, directed by John Llwellyn Moxey. Bad Company -- photographed by Gordon Willis, directed by Robert Benton. 1971 Skin Game -- directed by Paul Bogart and Gordon Douglas. McCabe & Mrs. Miller -- written by Robert McLeod, directed Robert Altman. Lawman -- written by Gerald Wilson, directed by Michael Winner. The Last Picture Show -- written by Larry McMurtry, directed by Peter Bogdanovich. J.W. Coop -- directed by Cliff Robertson. The Hired Hand -- written by Alan Sharp, directed by Peter Fonda. Hannie Caulder -- directed by Burt Kennedy. A Gunfight -- directed Lamont Johnson. The Emigrants (USA / Sweden) -- directed by Jan Troell. I left out westerns that were popular and quite good but nothing exceptional -- like THE GREAT NORTHFIELD MINNESOTA RAID, MAN AND BOY, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUNFIGHTER, BIG JAKE, THE CULPEPPER CATTLE COMPANY, CHATO'S LAND, JOE KID, THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN RIDE!, MAN IN THE WILDERNESS, THE LEGEND OF N----- CHARLEY, THE SOUL OF N----- CHARLEY, CAHILL U.S. MARSHALL, THE MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING, THE DEADLY TRACKERS, THE TRAIN ROBBERS, POSSE, THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JUDGE ROY BEAN, THE SPIKES GANG, BITE THE BULLET, BREAKHEART PASS, THE MASTER GUNFIGHTER, ADIOS AMIGO, THE APPLE DUMPLING GANG, THE APPLE DUMPLING GANG RIDES AGAIN, HOT LEAD AND COLD FEET, THE DUCHESS AND THE DIRTWATER FOX, RANCHO DELUXE, HAWMPS!, ROOSTER COGBURN, THE LAST RIDE OF THE DALTON GANG, THE LAST HARD MEN, RETURN OF A MAN CALLED HORSE, GRAYEAGLE, THE WHITE BUFFALO, THE FRISCO KID, WINDWALKER, etc. There were three international westerns worth noting: John Sturges' THE VALDEZ HORSES (1973) a fine drama with Bronson and Ireland filmed in Spain; Don Chafey's BILLY TWO HATS (1978) with Peck and Warden filmed in the Sinai desert, of all places, with a superb script by Alan Sharp; and Monte Hellman's CHINA 9 LIBERTY 37 (1978) with Warren Oates, Jenny Agutter and Sam Peckinpah in a cameo, filmed in Italy and Spain. SHOOT THE SUN DOWN (1978) was an interesting experimental western by a first-time director who never made another film. There's an excellent transfer on blu-ray. Easily the worst western of the decade was Altman's BUFFALO BILL AND THE INDIANS starring Paul Newman. Robert Altman crapped on the Centennial with this bad, inaccurate, misinformed and subversive history. Beautifully designed and photographed but the story and direction were garbage. It failed miserably at the box-office and deserved too. Like SOLDIER BLUE, another bad, inaccurate, mis-informed "history" it was a film impossible to like. Near the end of the decade, television networks aired several mini-series competitively that were among the best westerns of the decade; particularly noteworthy were THE McCAHANS aka HOW THE WEST WAS WON, THE AWAKENING LAND (1978), CENTENNIAL (1978), MR. HORN (1979) and THE SACKETTS (1979). There was also a more sophisticated view of the American west depicted in long-running hit programs like LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE and THE LIFE AND TIMES OF GRIZZLY ADAMS. Some of the made-for-tv films proved as good as the features, such as THE BRAVADOS (1972) and the amazing I WILL FIGHT NO MORE FOREVER (1975). If someone wants to start an 1980s to 2000s thread I'll find some thoughts to contribute.
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I left out several westerns that were popular and quite good but nothing exceptional -- like.... THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES what???? mmm, marginally controversial. is anyone else not just the least bit intrigued why Another man another chance and heavens gate makes Richards list but poor old josey gets shafted???!
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Jul 27, 2014 - 1:47 PM
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Richard-W
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I've read the two historical novels by Forest Carter on which THE OUTLAW JOSEY WALES is based. Eastwood uses the main frame but discards the nuances and subtleties. The books are a richer story. The film pounds the depth of the story right out of existence. It could be argued that Eastwood didn't understand the novels at all. It's an okay film, though, just nothing exceptional. Also, I've never been that big an Eastwood fan. He's okay but I don't lose my head over him like some of you do, and I don't give him a pass when he dumbs down and screws up, which he does more often than not. I would like to see an entirely different adaptation of the novels, one at a time, with neither burdened by "the man with no name" persona. Eastwood's persona just weighs them down. For example Jeff Bridges or Dennis Quaid when they were young, or even Harrison Ford, would have made a great Josey Wales.
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ive read the wonderful books by Forrest carter, too, richard - the second one has him revenging in mexico from memory - but the adaption to film was fine - to be honest the dialogue and the story and set pieces were so strong that it would have been hard for my granny to direct it badly. great material made an exceptional western. what do the rest of you think?
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