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Absolutely loving what I'm hearing here.
Same here! A most welcome release at the end of this year.
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From those clips, sounds like auto-pilot. Yes. JW auto-pilot is pretty good, but it's still auto-pilot.
#Tracksounds
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From those clips, sounds like auto-pilot.
I'll buy one Williams auto-pilot a dozen times... than a dozen Remote Control auto-pilots once...
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The samples sound like "been there, done that". "Autopilot" may be a bit harsh, but there's certainly nothing fresh or surprising about it. Well, the man is 81. From the trailer the film looks like an Amblin Entertainment sub-Spielberg product of yore, why not lavish a sub-Spielberg score on it.
I agree with facehugger that maybe Williams should spend more time on one last(?) great effort, possibly in concert music, instead of writing routine scores for (presumably) routine movies.
However, the rabidness with which Williams "fans" here attack any criticism of the score (again, based on the samples - and 30m seconds of a cue WILL give you a pretty good picture of what's to be expected) is rather sad and desperate. As boys will be boys, fanboys will be fanboys.
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Oct 27, 2013 - 4:30 PM
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E-Wan
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facehugger: Sounds as interchangeable as a dozen other John Williams' scores, just not as passionate or 'good.'
The one thing I don't get about John Williams: why not just enjoy a happy retirement if all he does now is rehashing his old stuff? It's not that he needs the paychecks or the Oscar cool credit at this stage of his career.
But maybe to him, writing this kind of music is as easy and relaxing as fishing. Maybe he's just treating this as a grandpa hobby. I don't know.
Yes, but the same you can say about almost all film music composers alive or dead. Many of their works are interchangeable. It is practically impossible to avoid that in such amount of music. Herrmann, Rozsa, Korngold, Morricone, Horner, Goldsmith, Zimmer, ... in some point of their careers all have been criticized for sounding the same.
Sorry I don't know you but it seems like you are the greatest film music authority in the world to give Mr. Williams advise to go into retirement. You must be really respected person in the film music industry to be entitled to give one of the last giants of film music such an advise.
Wow!
OnlyGoodMusic: The samples sound like "been there, done that". "Autopilot" may be a bit harsh, but there's certainly nothing fresh or surprising about it. Well, the man is 81. From the trailer the film looks like an Amblin Entertainment sub-Spielberg product of yore, why not lavish a sub-Spielberg score on it.
I agree with facehugger that maybe Williams should spend more time on one last(?) great effort, possibly in concert music, instead of writing routine scores for (presumably) routine movies.
However, the rabidness with which Williams "fans" here attack any criticism of the score (again, based on the samples - and 30m seconds of a cue WILL give you a pretty good picture of what's to be expected) is rather sad and desperate. As boys will be boys, fanboys will be fanboys.
It seems that you are the second greatest film music authority in the world after facehugger to give Mr. Williams advise.
I didn't know that such important authorities are active in this message board. Cool!
And I really admire your and facehugger's talent to perfectly recognize what music is going to be after listening to some 30-second samples. It is really amazing!
I'm already collecting Williams's scores for 20 years and I can't do this. I was disappointed and unimpressed by samples of some of his 'recent' scores including Memoirs of a Geisha, Revenge of the Sith, Munich, War Horse, etc. But after listening the CDs I have fallen in love with these scores and some of them are my most favourite works of him.
So I applaude you for such an ability to predict. You are genius!
I'm really envious!
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Oct 27, 2013 - 9:13 PM
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edwzoomom
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facehugger: Sounds as interchangeable as a dozen other John Williams' scores, just not as passionate or 'good.'
The one thing I don't get about John Williams: why not just enjoy a happy retirement if all he does now is rehashing his old stuff? It's not that he needs the paychecks or the Oscar cool credit at this stage of his career.
But maybe to him, writing this kind of music is as easy and relaxing as fishing. Maybe he's just treating this as a grandpa hobby. I don't know.
Yes, but the same you can say about almost all film music composers alive or dead. Many of their works are interchangeable. It is practically impossible to avoid that in such amount of music. Herrmann, Rozsa, Korngold, Morricone, Horner, Goldsmith, Zimmer, ... in some point of their careers all have been criticized for sounding the same.
Sorry I don't know you but it seems like you are the greatest film music authority in the world to give Mr. Williams advise to go into retirement. You must be really respected person in the film music industry to be entitled to give one of the last giants of film music such an advise.
Wow!
OnlyGoodMusic: The samples sound like "been there, done that". "Autopilot" may be a bit harsh, but there's certainly nothing fresh or surprising about it. Well, the man is 81. From the trailer the film looks like an Amblin Entertainment sub-Spielberg product of yore, why not lavish a sub-Spielberg score on it.
I agree with facehugger that maybe Williams should spend more time on one last(?) great effort, possibly in concert music, instead of writing routine scores for (presumably) routine movies.
However, the rabidness with which Williams "fans" here attack any criticism of the score (again, based on the samples - and 30m seconds of a cue WILL give you a pretty good picture of what's to be expected) is rather sad and desperate. As boys will be boys, fanboys will be fanboys.
It seems that you are the second greatest film music authority in the world after facehugger to give Mr. Williams advise.
I didn't know that such important authorities are active in this message board. Cool!
And I really admire your and facehugger's talent to perfectly recognize what music is going to be after listening to some 30-second samples. It is really amazing!
I'm already collecting Williams's scores for 20 years and I can't do this. I was disappointed and unimpressed by samples of some of his 'recent' scores including Memoirs of a Geisha, Revenge of the Sith, Munich, War Horse, etc. But after listening the CDs I have fallen in love with these scores and some of them are my most favourite works of him.
So I applaude you for such an ability to predict. You are genius!
I'm really envious!
No E-Wan, you are the genius - great response! Well said.
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I second that, well said. These two have been feeding off negativity since they joined the board. I can't remember any positive contribution.
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I think the clips sound really good. Some nice chromatic writing in there.
Already pre-ordered from Amazon.ca
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Samples can be misleading and disappointing while the full score is great.
But these samples already prove to me that this is worth the purchase.
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