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 Posted:   Jun 26, 2014 - 3:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I haven't decided yet if I like it better or if I prefer the original.!

I don't like these new mixes. At all ...
...


here we go....

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2014 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

....one thing I have learned, Zimmer's Album suites are a lot better than what is actually written for the films. .

That is why I am excited by this release but would never part with the ost!!!!!
bruce

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2014 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Re: replacing acoustic instruments where there was synths before

Does this reflect the score as performed and heard in the a film ITSELF?
iF, SO that would be a definite plus on this release!
brm

 
 Posted:   Jun 26, 2014 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Julian K   (Member)

Apologies if this is common knowledge, but details about the next release, MARY POPPINS, can be found here...

http://theseconddisc.com/2014/06/26/practically-perfect-disneys-legacy-collection-announces-next-volume/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Per   (Member)

I haven't decided yet if I like it better or if I prefer the original.!

I don't like these new mixes. At all ...
...


here we go....


Here we go what ?

Is it not allowed to be not happy about how the release (i.e. the mixes) turned out to be ?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 2:44 AM   
 By:   Per   (Member)

Does this reflect the score as performed and heard in the a film ITSELF?
iF, SO that would be a definite plus on this release!
brm


Maybe that's a reason why it's not a plus (for me that is, not speaking for others); because it does not reflect the score as heard in the film...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Faleel J Morricone   (Member)

Does this reflect the score as performed and heard in the a film ITSELF?
iF, SO that would be a definite plus on this release!
brm


Maybe that's a reason why it's not a plus (for me that is, not speaking for others); because it does not reflect the score as heard in the film...


What is wrong with the new mixes?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   Per   (Member)

What is wrong with the new mixes?

Nothing wrong with them per se, it's just that they are not the mixes you hear on the old album or in the film. So some of you might be dissapointed. Some parts are not that different, while other parts are more different.

I guess most people (certainly the ones not really familiar with the score from before) don't hear any difference, or don't care, and/or enjoys the new mixes even more (good for them), but personally I prefer the original mix, that's all. And I'm glad both versions are "available" in one form or the other.

For the (usually) non-Zimmer lovers, I'm sure the new mixes could sound more interesting, since they do sound less (old-school) Zimmer'ish !?

While it can't be compared directly, I'm thinking it as a bit similar to the Backdraft case, where the original mixes are so much better (aka Zimmer'ish, in this case that means in a positive way), than the album mixes (again, this is just my own personal opinion), where much of the synths had been removed (Not that it's the same thing with The Lion King, I don't think that's the case (certainly not to that degree), it's just mixed differently.)

Re - the "new" 'singing' choir, it's still there on the original mixes as well (if you listen closely), but just not so much "in your face" in the mix. While I'm not so into these terms, I guess the new mix is a more "dry" mix, where the original was more "wet" (is that correct ?) ... or to explain it in another way, while the instruments (or the different layers) sound more 'separated' in the new mix, they are more 'blended' in the original mix, which is what I like better anyway ... again, that's all...

(just to comment (just in general) regarding the 'aaah'-choir, and 'singing'-choir; it's not like 'aaaah'-choir=synth choir, and 'singing'-choir=live/real choir ... you can get both kinds with both a synth-choir and live-choir)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 4:28 PM   
 By:   Faleel J Morricone   (Member)

What is wrong with the new mixes?

Nothing wrong with them per se, it's just that they are not the mixes you hear on the old album or in the film. So some of you might be dissapointed. Some parts are not that different, while other parts are more different.

I guess most people (certainly the ones not really familiar with the score from before) don't hear any difference, or don't care, and/or enjoys the new mixes even more (good for them), but personally I prefer the original mix, that's all. And I'm glad both versions are "available" in one form or the other.

For the (usually) non-Zimmer lovers, I'm sure the new mixes could sound more interesting, since they do sound less (old-school) Zimmer'ish !?

While it can't be compared directly, I'm thinking it as a bit similar to the Backdraft case, where the original mixes are so much better (aka Zimmer'ish, in this case that means in a positive way), than the album mixes (again, this is just my own personal opinion), where much of the synths had been removed (Not that it's the same thing with The Lion King, I don't think that's the case (certainly not to that degree), it's just mixed differently.)

Re - the "new" 'singing' choir, it's still there on the original mixes as well (if you listen closely), but just not so much "in your face" in the mix. While I'm not so into these terms, I guess the new mix is a more "dry" mix, where the original was more "wet" (is that correct ?) ... or to explain it in another way, while the instruments (or the different layers) sound more 'separated' in the new mix, they are more 'blended' in the original mix, which is what I like better anyway ... again, that's all...

(just to comment (just in general) regarding the 'aaah'-choir, and 'singing'-choir; it's not like 'aaaah'-choir=synth choir, and 'singing'-choir=live/real choir ... you can get both kinds with both a synth-choir and live-choir)


From what I know, some of the Album/Film versions are elements (as in stems) of the tracks on Disc 1, and the Demos on Disc 2 edited together.

 
 Posted:   Jun 27, 2014 - 6:44 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

What a hideous cover!

Looks to me, from the picture, that the packaging is a book with each CD in an envelope on either side. So, the packaging is a lot more hideous than the cover.

 
 Posted:   Jun 28, 2014 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I haven't decided yet if I like it better or if I prefer the original.!


Is it not allowed to be not happy about how the release (i.e. the mixes) turned out to be ?


wOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EDIT THAT STATEMENT to make it more grammatical? I am a professional, you know
wink

chill, baby!
bruce

 
 Posted:   Jul 2, 2014 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

Just received The Lion King and enjoying it a lot.

Hope this is the way Disney will be releasing its scores in the future, complete with the songs and score arranged in their order, instead of separating a few tracks of the score and placing it as filler at the end of the albums...

In the case of TLK the added material really enhances the experience, with motivs from the songs being used in the score tracks and the several themes being more noticeable and really shining and developing during the score - there's a lot of material associated with Scar and the hyenas that was mostly missing from the previous release.

On the mix itself I was very woried but in the end I found the mix closer to the film versions than what was in the original album. The only instance where I thought the mix lacked a bit of punch was during the final fight sequence. Somehow the film mix seemed more powerful than the mix on this Legacy disc. In any case that's another grail finally released.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   TheSeeker   (Member)

Query to the non-US gallery: The Australian release of TLK-LC comes in a standard jewel case. Are there any other international editions that are the same, i.e. the hardcover thing is a US-only edition?

I'm torn... On one hand it's all about the music for me, on the other hand my brain's going "But the hardcover won't fit in with the other CDs on the rack..." wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Just received the double disc. I love it. Happy with the mix. Sounds very good to me smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Just received the double disc. I love it. Happy with the mix. Sounds very good to me smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Just received The Lion King and enjoying it a lot.

Hope this is the way Disney will be releasing its scores in the future, complete with the songs and score arranged in their order, .....

.... the added material really enhances the experience, with motivs from the songs being used in the score tracks and the several themes being more noticeable and really shining and developing during the score - there's a lot of material associated with Scar and the hyenas that was mostly missing from the previous release.

.


i AGREE 100 percent!

Listened to disc one and love it - how can i not!?
bruce

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

....one thing I have learned, Zimmer's Album suites are a lot better than what is actually written for the films. .

That is why I am excited by this release but would never part with the ost!!!!!
bruce


On first listen I would say that the suite which concludes the original release is a better listen than the final track of TLC "The Rightful King".
This new version clocks in at 10 plus minutes and meanders a bit as it follows the on-screen action
brm

 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

What is wrong with the new mixes?



For the (usually) non-Zimmer lovers, I'm sure the new mixes could sound more interesting, since they do sound less (old-school) Zimmer'ish !?


)


Warning! Warning!
Attention 'cross-fade crazies': this release CONTAINS MANY CROSS-FADES including one that goes from score to song. How dare they!
Beware!
brm

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 5, 2014 - 11:49 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Of course they do that in the movie too...so yeah.

 
 Posted:   Jul 7, 2014 - 1:29 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

I am excited for Aladdin and Peter Pan...

 
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