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 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

They'll probably bury me in one of my JBL speaker cabinets which are over 100 pounds each and which I bought second-hand 42 years ago. Neeedless to say my wife has been pretty understanding over the years, though she HATES 'em !

Yeah, never give up your JBL.
I have never met a woman that loves a speaker cabinet, especially a large one.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   MusicMad   (Member)

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I have never met a woman that loves a speaker cabinet, especially a large one.


Real wood veneer ... it makes all the difference.

Oh, and don't remove the grills.

Mitch

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 2:48 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I wish to chime in with my 2 cents about JBL.
Ever since my first pair back in 1979 I have been a devoted customer. I've had nothing but ever since and never regretted it. I don't think I'll buy another brand.
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Earlier in the thread I took a moment to praise the Bose 901's. I seem to have completely missed the boat on the bad feelings that seem to exist about that product (and the company on the whole). When the 901's were in their heyday they were sold in audio shops along with every other brand so I didn't experience the "Bose-only" stores that I'm seeing described here.
It's possible that the company has damaged itself by concentrating its marketing with those smaller "kitchen blasters" and whatnot, but I have no concern with that. In my experience the 901 was a fine speaker and it performed exactly as expected (in as much as I often auditioned them in the sound rooms).

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I wish to chime in with my 2 cents about JBL.
Ever since my first pair back in 1979 I have been a devoted customer. I've had nothing but ever since and never regretted it. I don't think I'll buy another brand.
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Earlier in the thread I took a moment to praise the Bose 901's. I seem to have completely missed the boat on the bad feelings that seem to exist about that product (and the company on the whole). When the 901's were in their heyday they were sold in audio shops along with every other brand so I didn't experience the "Bose-only" stores that I'm seeing described here.
It's possible that the company has damaged itself by concentrating its marketing with those smaller "kitchen blasters" and whatnot, but I have no concern with that. In my experience the 901 was a fine speaker and it performed exactly as expected (in as much as I often auditioned them in the sound rooms).



Yes, the 901s were good value. Very listenable speakers that aimed at the mass market but were highly musical and could perform surprisingly well when partnered with more expensive equipment.
Of course, they have nothing to do with those tin cans Bose went on to promote like crazy in later years...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

Not all desktop speakers are created equal. I have this set and it sounds great connected to my iMac.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

People are using computers more often than ever before, and it only makes sense that if you don't have the budget to get a home stereo, to get a set of computer speakers to listen to music. While not cheap, the Klipsch pro-media 2.1 speaker system isn't expensive either. Not a bad way to listen to music on a tight budget if you already have a computer.
I bought a pair of Klipsch floor standing speakers back in 96 that I still have. Listening to music there is no reason to use a subwoofer. I have upgraded to the Bob Crites crossovers and tweeter domes so they actually sound better 17 years later, and look as good as the day I got them. A nice set of floor standing speakers is an investment (and some nice used models can be found for decent prices). With very little maintenance they will normally last a lifetime. I love how mine sound and would not think about parting with them. There has been improvements in engineering over the years, so some of today's floor standing speakers while still large, are smaller than some older models. One thing that is still true about speakers is SIZE DOES MATTER lol. IMHO Klipsch speakers can't be beat for price vs performance. Some people don't like horn tweeters, so ultimately it is all preference as to how you like the sound.

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

My generation is also much worse off than yours was financially, and is often constantly moving from crappy apartment to crappy apartment and can't afford a lot -- especially expensive sound systems.


That's one of the big modern day myths... that boomers always had it easy. Nothing could be further from the truth. I washed dishes, worked on farms, pumped gas, stocked shelves, mowed lawns, lived in $10/week rooms, various other shacks, etc, etc etc before I got plugged into a hi-tech profession.

When I was poor I listened to my friends stereo; when I had money I got my own with a decent size set of speakers. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

What I have noticed is that I can see some dirt poor looking person driving a crappy car, but sure enough they will have the latest and greatest smart phone.

This generation may not pay $500 for a nice stereo.But they will pay that or more for a smart phone, and thousands more for video games. I always find if someone wants something they find a way to pay for it.



 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

A good subwoofer can make a big difference.

hate 'em
brm


The big woofers? Really? I'd have thought otherwise! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

A good subwoofer can make a big difference.

hate 'em
brm


The big woofers? Really? I'd have thought otherwise! wink


I have had lots of speakers but I really like my current 5.1 arrangement, the subwoofer produces a depth of bass I have not heard before. Yeah, I know, this will make all the big cabinet speaker bass guys come out of the woodwork, but there is something to be said for a unit that is solely designed, amplified to produce the deep bass and shake the floor, walls, roof etc.

I love my subwoofer. Every time I play the depth charge scene in U571 I am amazed.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Not all desktop speakers are created equal. I have this set and it sounds great connected to my iMac.



Those are really lovely, but I blame Apple and Steve Jobs for successfully hocking the less is more compressed music that has taken over the world, and killed almost every record store.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

Not all desktop speakers are created equal. I have this set and it sounds great connected to my iMac.



Those are really lovely, but I blame Apple and Steve Jobs for successfully hocking the less is more compressed music that has taken over the world, and killed almost every record store.


Wow, you put a lot on their shoulders how about blaming those guys who invented the internet and Bill Gates for Microsoft with all his sharing programmes!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Not all desktop speakers are created equal. I have this set and it sounds great connected to my iMac.



Those are really lovely, but I blame Apple and Steve Jobs for successfully hocking the less is more compressed music that has taken over the world, and killed almost every record store.


Wow, you put a lot on their shoulders how about blaming those guys who invented the internet and Bill Gates for Microsoft with all his sharing programmes!



Yeah maybe, but Jobs successfully sold the idea of the total convenience of downloaded songs stored on the IPOD, Iphone etc, and sold a whole lot of those things, and they still are. The growth of the smart phone industry, and with it, downloaded music, exploded because of Apple to me. We are talking millions of unit here and if even if only half of these owners started downloading any amount of music at all, that is an enormous change.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)


 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Not all desktop speakers are created equal. I have this set and it sounds great connected to my iMac.



Re: Those are really lovely, but I blame Apple and Steve Jobs for successfully hocking the less is more compressed music that has taken over the world, and killed almost every record store.


So you want to go back to having to pull out individual LPs or tapes or CDs and NOT have the ease of an MP3 player? While half of my music is classical and a lot of it ranges from 20 to even 60 minutes in length, I still have nearly 19,000 different tracks on my 160GB iPod. So when I'm away from the house I have a huge selection of my favorite music at my fingertips that sounds to me almost as good as it does at home on my elaborate system. But about 2 years ago, just a day before I was to leave for a week in Montana with my parents, my iPod went out and I took a portable DiscMan (I know: I should have marched back to the Apple Store and either fixed it or gotten another). So I had this CD wallet with about 48 different CDs, and it was quite awkward juggling them. Frankly, it was a nightmare, and boy, did it make me appreciate my iPod!!! So I celebrate these amazing devices and, yes, I miss all my neighborhood record stores (I even started a thread here about some of them), but there are too many advantages that easily outweigh any real or imagined DISadvantages.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

Not all desktop speakers are created equal. I have this set and it sounds great connected to my iMac.



Re: Those are really lovely, but I blame Apple and Steve Jobs for successfully hocking the less is more compressed music that has taken over the world, and killed almost every record store.



@ Ron

Oh I understand that it is very convenient. But convenient is not quality. Technology is also not quality. What I am working against here is the broad assumption that newer technology is an absolute good, and I know that this is a lost battle with most people, because most people think if they like something there is nothing lost or negative about that. There is a definite negative and loss about the good and success of the Apple product. There is a loss, in lots of ways.

It is surely nice you can access tracks on your iPod. But I wonder if the ease with which people access music deprecates the appreciation of music as an pure experience. What I am saying that it is the exact same convenience of this, that you can access 19000 tracks while you are on the train, riding your bike, doing your laundry, eating, mowing the lawn, that might well deprecate the direct and focused consumption of the music. In effect the impact of the Ipod is all music becomes underscore to everything in life. So while at the same time enabling access and making it easier to organize and all that, it also makes it easier to take for granted, and ironically make it a less important part of life, rather than a more important part of life.

It could be compared to a buffet, if you have a well prepared meal on a dinner table I think you might enjoy it more than an entire table with endless choices that you could eat as much as you want. Alas we are a consumption culture where more is better, instead of better is better as in quality is better. Quantity and choice are better, all the while our appetite for music (or other things) might well not be refined, or the product enjoyed more because of it.

Also, most people do not understand the impact of music compression, Jobs and Apple were, are, very successful at making the public thing that there is no difference between a compressed track and a CD or an LP, but there is a difference,. Unfortunately the generation we are talking about now are being raised to never know anything better.

There are a lot of people in the world who would not grasp a bit of what I just said, but this is a score lover forum, so I would hope someone gets this.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

As for Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon"...it's a classic recording that absolutely rocks. Many film music fans can appreciate it alongside Bach or Beethoven or Delius and can also enjoy Puccini and Mozart AND hold John Williams and Jerry Goldsmith in EQUAL esteem.

Being afflicted with limitations is a sad thing.


Ohhh yeah, I appreciate your lines, Ron. You are absolutely true!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

to basil wrathbone, the focal speakers you mention might indeed have issues regarding reliability, but the focal chorus 836v and especially the 1028be are really in the top echelon of listening to music in terms of bass and soundstage the 1028be has received excellent reviews from other individuals who have purchased this speaker. I would like to know if anyone else postimg on this message has ever experimented with using the focal brand.

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2013 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)

From a different perspective it is kinda silly to blame Apple for figuring out and offering to people what they wanted. If your average music listener had any real concern about sound quality, iTunes would not have taken off as it has.

The demand was already there. Apple was smart enough to capitalize on it. Let's face it, people have been using inferior sound devices for decades. Anybody remember the Boom Box? The car 8-track, the office cd player?

People have been groomed for inferior sound for a long time now. Or so it seems to me......

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2013 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

From a different perspective it is kinda silly to blame Apple for figuring out and offering to people what they wanted. If your average music listener had any real concern about sound quality, iTunes would not have taken off as it has.

The demand was already there. Apple was smart enough to capitalize on it. Let's face it, people have been using inferior sound devices for decades. Anybody remember the Boom Box? The car 8-track, the office cd player?

People have been groomed for inferior sound for a long time now. Or so it seems to me......


Well, you blame the one most successful at it. By the same method I blame McDonald's for making the public so comfortable with garbage for food, they are extremely successful at it. Have there been other sources of garbage fast food? Yes, lots, but none so massively successful at it.

I do not think that 8 Tracks or boom boxes were ever sold in the range of 17 million units. And in theory a small bookshelf stereo system with a cd player has audio quality at least as good as an Ipod because it is an uncompressed CD source.

 
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