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 Posted:   Jan 7, 2013 - 10:22 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

If we eventually go to download only, what in the world will I have these composers sign razz

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2013 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

LMAO Peter!

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2013 - 10:35 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

If we eventually go to download only, what in the world will I have these composers sign razz

Well, if you were a lady... *cough*

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2013 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

Sones for the win!

 
 Posted:   Jan 7, 2013 - 11:24 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

and... no more whoppers?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

"I've got a bad feeling about this" smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   David Ferstat   (Member)

David Sones (Allardyce) write:
If we eventually go to download only, what in the world will I have these composers sign razz

Well, if you were a lady... *cough*


Come now, David, broaden your mind.

Your suggestion probably wouldn't work with the late Richard Rodney Bennett, for example, or with Marc Shaiman. smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   David Ferstat   (Member)

Lukas wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/business/media/cutting-edge-group-buys-varese-sarabande.html

Please do NOT repost the entire article here, the NY Times is a copyrighted publication!

Lukas


In that case, could somebody please post a summary of the article? I find the NYTimes page to be paywalled, and I'm certainly not signing up for an account just for this article.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Grimsdyke   (Member)

THE OPTIMISTIC ENDPOINT:
Dozens of quality new (and hopefully some classic) soundtrack releases each year.
On CD I hope, but in the fast-approaching digital domain probably.

THE PESSIMISTIC ENDPOINT:
They really tried their best, but the realistic expectations of the film score financial market were not what they had projected them to be. Run-run-run for the Mega-Sale of soundtracks at FAMILY DOLLAR. smile


With an investment adviser becoming the chief executive of Varese ??
I am pretty sure which are your scenarios is way more likely.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Lukas wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/business/media/cutting-edge-group-buys-varese-sarabande.html

Please do NOT repost the entire article here, the NY Times is a copyrighted publication!

Lukas


In that case, could somebody please post a summary of the article? I find the NYTimes page to be paywalled, and I'm certainly not signing up for an account just for this article.




I don't have an account there and the page / article loads just fine for me, no need for payment.

On topic....cautiously optimistic on the news. Although mergers/buyouts usually are not good things.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

In that case, could somebody please post a summary of the article? I find the NYTimes page to be paywalled, and I'm certainly not signing up for an account just for this article.

When you access NYT articles from an outside link (like the one on this page), it bypasses the paywall. (Even so, it's not very difficult to circumvent the paywall, even if you're clicking on a link from the NYT site.)

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

If we eventually go to download only, what in the world will I have these composers sign razz

Oh im sure you could find something. I was thinking of getting composer signature tatoos myself. wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Lukas wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/business/media/cutting-edge-group-buys-varese-sarabande.html

Please do NOT repost the entire article here, the NY Times is a copyrighted publication!

Lukas


In that case, could somebody please post a summary of the article? I find the NYTimes page to be paywalled, and I'm certainly not signing up for an account just for this article.


Remove the characters after ".html" if you hit the paywall. Works every time for me.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

Cutting Edge as far as I understand is basically interested in owning a record company as a tool to release the scores that they own. Their goal is to have the rights to the filmmusic and then sell it to the Trailer and advertising industry. And this business model apparently is very successful. Which doesn`t have to be a bad thing since they`ve been working with very good composers. So I can imagine that they will release interesting scores in the future. But it`s a totally different business model and a totally different approach than the "old" Varese approach. They`re simply not former "fanboys" turned record producers but guys who want to make money. Period. No way Cutting Edge is interested in spending a lot of money in the restoration of stuff like THE RED PONY and then not even having the rights to that music other than releasing 3.000 physical CDs. So I guess that`s the end of the Varese Club. And who knows how long Townson will stay on board with the new direction of Varese. But this could also mean that since they don`t care about releasing expanded 90s Goldsmith scores they might license them to Intrada or LLL. And as long as those 2 companies maintain their philosophy there will be all those wonderful releases in the future. Just no more Varese Club. Probably.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

In a year, the true impact of this sale will seem obvious in retrospect. For now, I think there's a lot of conjecture masquerading as inevitable truth.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

This sounds like a flashback to the 90s- soundtracks with songs that rights holders can leverage, with less thought given to the scores themselves.
I though producers finally got their heads out of their asses over song compilations, leading to the score renaissance we have been experiencing lately.


This deal appears to help Cutting Edge by giving them more material they can leverage, songs and score cues.
Varese gets an infusion of cash to release more music (not necessarily scores) in the years to come.
Like so many deals like this, the fan, (the customer) still seems like an afterthought.

This also feels like it goes along with the consolidation of the the larger music corporations- more control in fewer people's jands and less consideration for the fan.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Cutting Edge as far as I understand is basically interested in owning a record company as a tool to release the scores that they own. Their goal is to have the rights to the filmmusic and then sell it to the Trailer and advertising industry. And this business model apparently is very successful. Which doesn`t have to be a bad thing since they`ve been working with very good composers. So I can imagine that they will release interesting scores in the future. But it`s a totally different business model and a totally different approach than the "old" Varese approach. They`re simply not former "fanboys" turned record producers but guys who want to make money. Period. No way Cutting Edge is interested in spending a lot of money in the restoration of stuff like THE RED PONY and then not even having the rights to that music other than releasing 3.000 physical CDs. So I guess that`s the end of the Varese Club. And who knows how long Townson will stay on board with the new direction of Varese. But this could also mean that since they don`t care about releasing expanded 90s Goldsmith scores they might license them to Intrada or LLL. And as long as those 2 companies maintain their philosophy there will be all those wonderful releases in the future. Just no more Varese Club. Probably.

Yes.

 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

If we eventually go to download only, what in the world will I have these composers sign razz

Oh im sure you could find something. I was thinking of getting composer signature tatoos myself. wink


I'm sure I'll find something, maybe a napkin or baseball. Never have understood that why so many folks have celebs and artists sign baseballs. who knows.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

All I have to say is, thank God that the Bernard Herrmann centenary occurred BEFORE Varese sold out to Cutting Edge.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 8, 2013 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Since Varese is one of the less prolific issuers of vintage scores, their output could probably be picked up by Intrada, La-La Land, Kritzerland, etc. without too much disruption. I don't believe that Varese has any exclusive arrangements with any studios that the other labels wouldn't have access to. I'm more concerned with who, if anyone, will fill the hole left by FSM, which HAS been the sole issuer of pre-1986 MGM scores.

 
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