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'The Black Cauldron' is one of my favourite animated movies ever. I love it's dark tone. As a side note, the title for this movie here in Portugal is 'Taran e o Caldeirão Mágico" ('Taran and the Magic Cauldron'). I'm so glad that the complete score is finally availabe and i'll obviously get this one. Thanks again, Intrada.
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This score is very good. Intrada's cover not so good.
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Apr 6, 2012 - 11:04 AM
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Hurdy Gurdy
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I always really loved the track Fair Folk from the old Varese release. I'm not sure if the melody is ever used again in the score, outside of that track, but it's just a great piece of music. I saw the film, when it came out, at the cinema, but I don't remember it much (or fondly). Some of the animation was a bit 'Saturday Morning' - although weren't there a few sequences in it that featured the first ever use of digital animation? - and easily the best thing about the whole show was Elmer's score. I had the LP, but never got 'round to picking up the CD and then it just became too expensive. I do have a 57 minute boot of the score with less than stellar sound, but this is a must buy for me. I was a bit hit-or-miss with some Elmer scores from this period, really loving Heavy Metal, Great Santini, Spies Like Us and this one, but not caring so much for Saturn 3, Space Hunter or Slipstream (aside from the title music on that one). Even Ghostbusters was a huge let-down on CD and is a disc I hardly play. I also really like the new Intrada cover btw, a nice change of style and miles better than some of the awful artwork displayed in this thread, although the old Varese/Utah Symp red cover wasn't too bad.
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I have not heard the bootleg, so I can't comment on this album specifically. But let's define what an "alternate" is. In many cases, a cue is recorded and the composer does not like what he hears. So he changes it, either on the fly or for the next session. The disapproved take is not an "alternate," it's a rejected cue that the composer tossed away for a reason. Now, most boots are created when somebody gets access to the session tapes and creates a CD from that. They generally do not have the session logs or cue sheets that explain what each take, partial take, and insert are. So they label the rejected cue an "alternate" and leave it at that. (The same can happen for takes that are simply performed incorrectly.) In addition, many boots have been known to repeat music (sometimes from various slightly different takes or inserts) and identify them as different cues. The result of this is that fans get indignant when a legitimate label releases a score correctly. Remember the uproar when Intrada's wonderful "City of Fear" was shorter than the boot? Of course, the boot repeated many cues, and didn't include some of the music on the complete Intrada release. A bootleg is not a reliable reference source! Another bad thing about boots is a lot of the times the creator will often split tracks up to the bone to extend the track list size and make it seem like there is more music than there actually is. That's why I appreciate when official labels come in and release something correctly like this here.
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Oops! Dozy me! Just played through my Varese/Utah Symph' copy of this score, in anticipation of my forthcoming Intrada CD, and noticed that the Fair Folk melody is referenced again in the Finale track. Lovely stuff!
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For those who have the new CD, do the liner notes go into any detail about the deleted scenes that were cut before the film's release at the last minute? That one piece called "Incantation" sounds like it could have been written for a deleted scene as I clearly do not remember any scene imbetween the one with the Fair Folk and the scene in Morva.
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Major question. I have not purchased THE BLACK CAULDRON yet because I want to know what it sounds like. I have been waiting for this release since the movie was released as I had been for THE ISLAND ON TOP OF THE WORLD. Well, with Intrada and Disney working together I would think this would be an excellent release, but my excitement was bumped down a little when I saw the CD cover. Yes, I know we are in it for the music, but... Anyway, I would like to know if the music on THE BLACK Cauldron is clean and crisp, okay I am still having major issues with listening to THE ISLAND ON TOP OF THE WORLD. TIOTOTW has too much distortion for me (or some say it was recorded too hot), to where I can not listen to it anymore, which is a shame since it is a great score. I had to put it away for awhile and will bring it out down the road. How does TBC sound? Any distortions? Others have made reference to other Intrada releases that had similar distortions, but I do not have any of them, so TIOTOTW is my first and it is just too difficult to listen to.
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