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 Posted:   Jun 6, 2017 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

And the composer for the new "Ducktales" series is not Ron Jones:
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2017/06/06/dominic-lewis-to-score-ducktales-reboot/


The more I see and learn about this, the more "crap" comes to mind.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2017 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I might agree except that it's the same Dominic Lewis who has been doing an absolutely great job on The Man in the High Castle (season 2 has many standout moments).

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

The new take on the theme music is also terrible, down to the singing, the instrumental performance, and feel. It's not retched, but it might as well be since this is what we got.


Also rumored to be rebooted and likely also ruined:
http://www.cbr.com/animaniacs-reboot-rumor/

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   kenisu3000   (Member)

The worst of it is how the Internet hive mind is treating this. If you show any apprehension about the reboot at all, you end up shouted down by the Collective, and get branded as just a bitter fanboy who dwells in the past. People are already saying the new opening animation is better than the old one, based solely on the idea that the original was made up mostly of clips recycled from various episodes, with only the occasional specially animated shot; and mercy on your soul if you disagree.

DuckTales is the series that inspired me to become a cartoonist, so the original '80s series means the world to me. If this were merely a continuation of the original series - even if the animation, art style, voice acting and music still went this same weird route - I'd probably still take some issue with it, but it wouldn't offend me to my absolute core like this reboot does. A continuation would show the original at least some amount of respect. A reboot, by its very nature, must disrespect the original.

All I can say is, if this version happens to get its musical score prioritized for a release before the original Ron Jones score... booooy will I be livid.

 
 Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 2:38 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Exactly, kenisu3000. If we don't like the new version of some film or TV series, but it a remake, reboot or legitimate full-fledged sequel or prequel, suddenly we -- the descentors -- are the problem. "Haters" and "purists" and so forth.

Let me just list my personal dislikes over time:

  • All the Star Wars prequels and the new film.
  • The "Ghostbusters" re-visioning.
  • This new "Ducktales" series.
  • The J.J.verse Trek films.
  • All the "Men in Black" sequels.
  • All the "Knight Rider" spin-off series and the "Knight Rider 2000" TV movie.
  • The "A-Team" film.
  • All the Alien sequels/prequels (except "Aliens 2").
  • All the Star Trek spin-off series except TNG.
  • The "21 Jump Street" films.
  • The new "Inspector Gadget" series and the two (or three) crappy films
  • And based on everything I have read about the upcoming "CHiPs" movie, that too (down to even the composer choice).


    And more. There's a record now. Anybody want to serious tell me it's still just me after all this? I don't give a crap whether you like this or that. In order to not like all that stuff and more, I'd have to be a cynical asshole who just doesn't like new things, and I am not.

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     Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 4:20 PM   
     By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

    I get that the visual style is going to be an acquired taste, but I don't know how you can look at that voice cast and not be excited. They's managed to pull together a who's who of Earwolf, Comedy Bang-Bang, Community, and indie comedy darlings, and that's before you even get to David Tennant and Lin Manuel Miranda(!). No offense to Russi Taylor, but would anybody really rather listen to her painstakingly squawk out kid voices when we can have Benny Schwarz (BB8 himself!), Kate Miccucci, Danny Pudi, and Bobby Moynihan voicing the kids. And Paul F Tompkins as Gladstone Gander? Sign me up!

    I also get the impression that they're leaning more heavily on the classic Carl Barks comics this time around, which honestly matters more to me than how well they service the '80s cartoon. They seem to see their target audience as adults who watched Duck Tales as kids, then aged into comedy nerds who also collect Fantagraphics collections of old Disney comics. So me, then. The demographic is specifically me. Everybody else - at least you can rewatch DVD sets of the '80s show?

     
     Posted:   Jun 29, 2017 - 4:37 PM   
     By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

    I also get the impression that they're leaning more heavily on the classic Carl Barks comics this time around, which honestly matters more to me than how well they service the '80s cartoon. They seem to see their target audience as adults who watched Duck Tales as kids, then aged into comedy nerds who also collect Fantagraphics collections of old Disney comics. So me, then. The demographic is specifically me....

    And me too, with some differences. I was in my mid-late 20's when the show came out and never saw it for 20 years. After we took my then 8-year old daughter to Disneyland (which was my first visit too), I got interested in Disney comics. Which led me back to the Barks Scrooge comics I vaguely remembered from childhood. Which got me interested in the TV show, so we bought all the dvd sets and enjoyed immensely watching them about 10 years ago. (And of course I've been getting all those same Fantagraphics volumes, though I've missed the last couple, gotta catch up.)

    My daughter and I am both delighted with what we've seen and heard so far of the reboot. Love the voice cast, especially Tennant as Scrooge, love the new animation style, have high hopes for Barksian influence, and am endlessly grateful we will not have to hear the boys screeching away in the one bad, bad holdover from the old days that keeps me from happily rewatching the 80's vids.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 12:59 AM   
     By:   kenisu3000   (Member)



    Pardon me while I down a whole bottle of bleach.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 5:40 AM   
     By:   General Kael   (Member)



    What?!!!!! Explanation please?

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 8:42 AM   
     By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

    Very very disappointing. If this has anything to do with reasons over the new series, screw the new series. And don't count on my money going to a score release for the new series.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 8:48 AM   
     By:   CrazyQuark   (Member)

    Agreed. Very sad.

    But at least we finally have some sort of statement regarding this, even if this sure isn't what I wanted to hear. This show had just way too much really beautiful, emotional and exciting music.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 11:18 AM   
     By:   litefoot   (Member)

    I just saw the news on the Intrada board and am a little distraught. I thought the release of Newman's score to the movie meant that we were well on the way to getting into the Disney Afternoon vaults. As it stands, that is now over.

    I don't know what it is about 80s cartoons. They seem cursed never to be released. Never have I known a genre and era of screen music more cursed than this one.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 12:48 PM   
     By:   kenisu3000   (Member)

    I wrote Ron Jones about this last night asking him if he knew anything, and got a response this morning. It turns out he had been working with Roger to get the soundtrack together, and they were "very close to making it happen". Again, not much info on what exactly caused this. Naturally, my bias has me giving the reboot the hairy eyeball, but I'll reserve judgement on that until further notice.

    I don't get it. What does Disney have to gain by withholding this and so many other things that scream for a release? It's like they're doing it out of pure spite. I guess it really is true that once a corporation becomes so powerful they don't need to listen to the fans who built them up, they won't.

    Ye cats. If I'd only known my dream, my number one Holy Grail, was that close to being fulfilled. We were so close...

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 2:29 PM   
     By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

    Well I appreciate that the Maestro himself wrote you back to share that there was an attempt at releasing it. I think we all owe Roger and Ron Jones our deepest thanks for looking into trying to get it released. big grin


    We don't have any details but I do wonder if it has anything to do with the theme song itself. Whether or not Disney would let the score out on CD without it - or if the costs with it were too high.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 2:29 PM   
     By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

    Dp. Quack quack.

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 3:54 PM   
     By:   litefoot   (Member)

    Well I appreciate that the Maestro himself wrote you back to share that there was an attempt at releasing it. I think we all owe Roger and Ron Jones our deepest thanks for looking into trying to get it released. big grin


    We don't have any details but I do wonder if it has anything to do with the theme song itself. Whether or not Disney would let the score out on CD without it - or if the costs with it were too high.


    I never did find out why the song was missing from the Intrada CD. I really wanted it on there. It starts the opening credits and ends them too. Anyway, I'd love to know why the tv scores can't be released.

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 7:11 PM   
     By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

    What's especially interesting, perhaps, is the song is included in the Ducktales Remastered soundtrack:
    https://www.amazon.com/DuckTales-Remastered-Official-Game-Soundtrack/dp/B00JPW84AM

    I believe it's the same recording as was on a CD dedicated to 'The Disney Afternoon' back in the 90s, which may have something to do with things/

     
     Posted:   Nov 13, 2017 - 9:41 PM   
     By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

    I hasten to point out many scores hit snags and remain unreleased, and none of them feature the "DuckTales" song or have anything to do with the "DuckTales" reboot. I know, these are just guesses, but before long around here, speculation becomes accepted reality.

    And Disney certainly isn't withholding permission out of spite (if indeed Disney is the problem at all). What spite would they have, and why would they even care?

    I understand that in an information vacuum, rumors fill the void. But we really don't have any idea at all why this didn't happen.

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 19, 2017 - 7:48 AM   
     By:   leagolfer   (Member)

    Disney are d$$$$ they only care about taking over $franchises & SW$. Yeah, I'd buy DT whenever it becomes available, we had Newman which was a surprise, what about Hoyt Curtain who did so many good scores, The Wacky Races can't see that becoming available.

     
     
     Posted:   Nov 19, 2017 - 7:49 AM   
     By:   leagolfer   (Member)

    d.p.

     
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