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It's great you guys are doing the autographed copies for the same price.
Looking forward to this release
Ordered !
I'm confused - I don't see anywhere on the SAE page that Jones will be autographing. Anyone know how many copies and if there are still signed copies to be had?
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I'm confused - I don't see anywhere on the SAE page that Jones will be autographing. Anyone know how many copies and if there are still signed copies to be had?
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Because the liner notes are published on our website they don't need studio approval. So they were published with our standards as if we were doing a magazine article, not liner notes that needed to be approved by the studio.
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Lets not go in this direction. Dennis is a really nice guy and wrote some great music for a number of TV shows. Just because Mr Jones got his deserved spotlight doesn't mean we should be pissing all over other people for it.
I know he's a nice guy and he has written some very good music, even some for Star Trek! The simple fact however is that he compromised and bowed down to Rick Berman's unreasonable wishes. It kept him his job as a Trek composer for decades but in terms of the music itself it rendered it less than art. Ron Jones, on the other hand, considered TV composing art and his music shows it.
I would jump for joy if his underrated score to Star Trek: Generations was released complete and remastered; I think a lot of people would reassess the fact that he IS an extremely talented composer when he is given free rein. I might even buy a box set of highlight cues from his long Trek TV tenure...
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Sep 1, 2010 - 3:00 PM
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The simple fact however is that he compromised and bowed down to Rick Berman's unreasonable wishes.
Which, I should point out, was his job. As a television producer myself, I have to say that if a composer consistently does what I ask him not to do (and I'm not saying this was what Jones did, by the way), I will have no choice but to fire that composer. He might not agree with my creative instincts. I would regret that, but it's ultimately not relevant. I am the one who is responsible for all aspects of the show. I am the one who has to defend it to the studio and the network which is paying for it. Can you imagine a scenario where the studio complains about the music and I say "Yeah, I agree, but the composer has too much personal integrity to do what we're paying him to do, so sorry"?
If you hire somebody to paint your house yellow, and he decides to paint it red because he's a painter and he knows better, what would you do?
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Sep 1, 2010 - 4:48 PM
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I know he's a nice guy and he has written some very good music, even some for Star Trek! The simple fact however is that he compromised and bowed down to Rick Berman's unreasonable wishes. It kept him his job as a Trek composer for decades but in terms of the music itself it rendered it less than art. Ron Jones, on the other hand, considered TV composing art and his music shows it.
Dennis McCarthy is a sensational composer.
And I'm going to be controversial here. When I started watching ST:TNG in 1987 I was hooked on the music. But it was McCarthy's scores in the first season that really stood out for me starting, obviously, with Encounter At Farpoint - one of the very best ST television scores of the second era. Ron Jones' music always struck me as a little too frivolous and synthy.
As time went on Jones got better (culminating with The Best Of Both Worlds) and McCarthy (seemingly) got worse. Years later, of course, I realised that Jones was going off the Berman rails while McCarthy was doing what he was told. Which was a shame.
Ron Jones' body of work for the series was exceptional, but please don't under-estimate McCarthy's work on Trek - or on TV generally - because he's very, very good indeed. If you want proof listen to that first season!
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Hello there! 
