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 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The low price should tell anyone here not to expect anything but...you get what you pay for.

A lot of new soundtrack CDs sell on Amazon for the same price or less.

So I can buy new and old single-disc releases from LLL, Intrada, Kritzerland, SAE, Varese, etc on Amazon for $12 or less...good grief, what a fool I've been! I want restitution!


I know you're being purposely obtuse, but obviously limited editions from the specialty labels are not what we're talking about.


Then I'm not sure why you quoted my post and mentioned Amazon in the first place. I specified that people here would correctly question a cheap soundtrack. You brought up that cheap soundtracks are sold on Amazon... so what? Because this is being sold on Amazon? It's also on the Varese website.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Then I'm not sure why you quoted my post and mentioned Amazon in the first place.

Because you were citing the low price of a non-limited edition general release as a warning sign to consumers. But this non-limited edition general release is priced right within the range of what those releases go for.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

(because you're calling $12 CDs, including this one, "half price" when really, $12 is on the high end of "regular price")

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

(because you're calling $12 CDs, including this one, "half price" when really, $12 is on the high end of "regular price")

That's not what I did or wrote. I said people here (not consumers who are familiar with cheap soundtracks on Amazon) would be suspicious of looking for a "serious" OST at that price.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I'm sorry, but the Legacy edition of Sleeping Beauty is far from definitive (don't about Cinderella or Lady though).

I'm sure it's missing some score material, but for me it's a very complete listening experience. My understanding is that the Legacy Collection releases are the most complete possible releases with the materials available. I believe I heard that there's technically a little bit missing from Cinderella, at least, too.

(For instance, if they were to do a Legacy Collection album of Snow White, it would probably be a repress of the currently available disc from 10+ years ago - which goes into detail in the liner notes that it was everything they could find - plus a disc of rarities, demos, rerecordings, etc).

The second disc is pretty useless for me except as a one-time historical thing.

I'd rather a nice, solid as-complete-as-possible release, without delving into music and effects tracks solely for the sake of completion (such as the current release of Alice and Wonderland, with distracting fly buzzing noises over at least one of the early tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   TacktheCobbler   (Member)

I'm sorry, but the Legacy edition of Sleeping Beauty is far from definitive (don't about Cinderella or Lady though).

I'm sure it's missing some score material, but for me it's a very complete listening experience. My understanding is that the Legacy Collection releases are the most complete possible releases with the materials available. I believe I heard that there's technically a little bit missing from Cinderella, at least, too.

(For instance, if they were to do a Legacy Collection album of Snow White, it would probably be a repress of the currently available disc from 10+ years ago - which goes into detail in the liner notes that it was everything they could find - plus a disc of rarities, demos, rerecordings, etc).

The second disc is pretty useless for me except as a one-time historical thing.

I'd rather a nice, solid as-complete-as-possible release, without delving into music and effects tracks solely for the sake of completion (such as the current release of Alice and Wonderland, with distracting fly buzzing noises over at least one of the early tracks.


That's all very well, but as I have mentioned several times in other threads, Disney has stated point blank that they have everything as far as Sleeping Beauty is concerned, so there's no excuse for the missing bits of score (some of which is actually quite good and one missing cue in particular [Fairies to the Rescue] is actually on the original soundtrack album) not being included.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Pedestrian Wolf   (Member)

Well this is a disappointment and I'd certainly be angry if I paid $12 for it, but with a little bit of pruning it's just listenable enough that I'm happy to have it on Spotify at least (to make it slightly more bearable, my suggestion is to chop out the "Long Road to Tipperary" and the abbreviated "Charlie Brown Theme" cues, then add on the full "Charlie Brown Theme" and "Great Pumpkin Waltz" from one of the many compilations). Hoping for better for some of the later Guaraldi specials - the "Lost Cues" compilations that came out a few years back had perfect-sounding cues from gems like "It's a Mystery, Charlie Brown" and "You're a Great Sport, Charlie Brown", which suggests that the scores might still be intact somewhere. I'd love it if completer versions of these could come out - preferably taken from the sessions and not based on whatever chopping editing they had to go through in the specials.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 2:54 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Then I'm not sure why you quoted my post and mentioned Amazon in the first place.

Because you were citing the low price of a non-limited edition general release as a warning sign to consumers. But this non-limited edition general release is priced right within the range of what those releases go for.


That's not what I did or wrote. I said people here (not consumers who are familiar with cheap soundtracks on Amazon) would be suspicious of looking for a "serious" OST at that price.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   drivingmissdaisy   (Member)

Any buyer on Amazon can listen to the audio samples which include music and sound effects. If the buyer isn't interested in buying it after hearing the samples, it's up to them. Some won't mind it, others will, but every buyer can hear the samples and hear what they are getting. smile

Looking forward to getting this, pre-ordered it through Barnes & Noble!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 6:23 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Any buyer on Amazon can listen to the audio samples which include music and sound effects. If the buyer isn't interested in buying it after hearing the samples, it's up to them. Some won't mind it, others will, but every buyer can hear the samples and hear what they are getting. smile

Looking forward to getting this, pre-ordered it through Barnes & Noble!!!!


I know it's not coming directly from Varese, but too bad they won't supply you a copy.
I agree that people should play the samples and decide (I've pre-ordered it). But we have the benefit of knowing about the FX. I can recall several soundtracks sold on Amazon without samples which turned out to be movie audio, which was disappointing and abit of a betrayal of the entire concept.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I pre-ordered when it was first announced.

For the price, I can live with it. Like I said earlier,
I’m a sucker for all things CB:-)

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 5:14 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Then I'm not sure why you quoted my post and mentioned Amazon in the first place.

Because you were citing the low price of a non-limited edition general release as a warning sign to consumers. But this non-limited edition general release is priced right within the range of what those releases go for.


That's not what I did or wrote. I said people here (not consumers who are familiar with cheap soundtracks on Amazon) would be suspicious of looking for a "serious" OST at that price.


But it’s not a “cheap” soundtrack, that’s what people keep telling you. You must not buy modern albums at all.. That’s how much non-boutique releases are!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Then I'm not sure why you quoted my post and mentioned Amazon in the first place.

Because you were citing the low price of a non-limited edition general release as a warning sign to consumers. But this non-limited edition general release is priced right within the range of what those releases go for.


That's not what I did or wrote. I said people here (not consumers who are familiar with cheap soundtracks on Amazon) would be suspicious of looking for a "serious" OST at that price.


But it’s not a “cheap” soundtrack, that’s what people keep telling you. You must not buy modern albums at all.. That’s how much non-boutique releases are!


Did you even read what you quoted??? And if you read back a few posts, I said I must not be interested in those $12 and under soundtracks since I'm not aware of them.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I said people here (not consumers who are familiar with cheap soundtracks on Amazon) would be suspicious of looking for a "serious" OST at that price.

I'm not sure why you think nobody here orders current soundtracks from Amazon.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 8:00 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I said people here (not consumers who are familiar with cheap soundtracks on Amazon) would be suspicious of looking for a "serious" OST at that price.

I'm not sure why you think nobody here orders current soundtracks from Amazon.


I never thought that. I don't read much about $12 (or whatever) titles here. Are they complete OST releases, or pop songs from movies? Usually discussions and announcements here are about the specialty labels. I also dont consider this some kind of Amazon release - it's sold at various stores.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I'm not sure why you think nobody here orders current soundtracks from Amazon.

I never thought that. I don't read much about $12 (or whatever) titles here. Are they complete OST releases, or pop songs from movies? Usually discussions and announcements here are about the specialty labels. I also dont consider this an Amazon release - it's sold at various stores.


How did my mentioning buying things from Amazon become "an Amazon release" to you?

Here are just a few soundtrack CDs (all substantial album releases of the orchestral scores) which people here have discussed recently:

"Incredibles 2" – $8.99

"Star Wars: The Last Jedi" – $10.69

"Solo: A Star Wars Story:" – $11.88

"Avengers: Infinity War" – $8.99

"Justice League" (2CDs) – $11.99

"Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" (2CDs) – $11.70

So now please explain to me how anybody here should have been able to tell from the higher price of "Pumpkin" on the same etail site that it was a compromised release.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

How did my mentioning buying things from Amazon become "an Amazon release" to you?

Here are just a few soundtrack CDs (all substantial album releases of the orchestral scores) people here have discussed here recently:

"Incredibles 2" – $8.99 ....


You originally steered the conversation to cheap soundtracks on Amazon, not me. My point was this isnt just another new soundtrack on Amazon - that is, there was alot of buzz about it, a wider audience that extended back years. One might expect a higher price for something other than an album version.

As for those titles you listed, I never had any interest so I never researched them for purchase (something I mentioned earlier). I thought incorrectly they were probably released by the specialty labels and were priced accordingly. You wrote they're substantial releases - are fans here happy with them? Or is there an unspoken understanding that a $12 studio release is relatively lite compared to a more comprehensive specialty label release?

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I honestly do not understand what is happening with you. You know there are...other people in the world, right? Beyond just you?

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I honestly do not understand what is happening with you. You know there are...other people in the world, right? Beyond just you?

I might say the same to you. I made assumptions about prices or releases. As I've said several times, I never read threads about newer scores which I have no interest, such as the ones Schiffy listed. I don't know what was said about price, who released them or where they're sold. Or if they're only $12 because they're relatively "lite" (incomplete) releases. Because if they're discussed here, I would have assumed incorrectly they were from our beloved labels. So quit bullying me and Melania.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2018 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   standbyme   (Member)

I am enjoying every minute of this release...sound effects and all! (The only thing that would have made it better is to have included the “Because of the following special program...” CBS intro...and maybe a Dolly Madison commercial!)

 
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