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 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)

Just to change the subject slightly, when I saw the roadshow release of BARABBAS here in the UK it was coupled with a short documentary about New York city. I can't remember the title, but it had a fantastic brassy score by Edwin Astley. Probably lost forever now, unfortunately.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

Just to change the subject slightly, when I saw the roadshow release of BARABBAS here in the UK it was coupled with a short documentary about New York city. I can't remember the title, but it had a fantastic brassy score by Edwin Astley. Probably lost forever now, unfortunately.

Yes I remember that documentary as well. It was titled "Wonderful New York" and was in 70mm. Great short film - I'd love to see it again. I didn't notice the music but I wasn't into film music in those days and could watch a film and be completely unaware of any music.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2014 - 12:12 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I would love to see a remastered Barabbas as the current dvd color is terrible.

Twilightus Timate, give us Barabbas!

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 2:43 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

TO BILL CARSON- You were an actor in those movies? what name do you go under in films?

dan you are too priceless to be true.

thanks for pic wayoutwest. she was a stunner.

Bill Carson, singer, journalist, author, broadcaster, sexual fantacist, actor in the good the bad the ugly. and extra in solomon and sheba.

 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

Back in 2004 we had a wonderful thread on Roadshow Films, and one of the tributaries of the thread went into NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA---what cuts had been made for the general release and whether the film was in stereo or not.

I saw the roadshow of NICHOLAS in Los Angeles (at the old Beverly Theatre in Beverly Hills, I believe) and it was in MONO, much to my dismay.

But please observe the final note to the editors in what I have posted below. After reading these cutters' notes, I would have no question that at least some prints were in mag stereo.



I posted the attached pic in an earlier thread we had on "Nicholas & Alexandra".

In our neck of the woods...Sheffield, UK, the movie was billed as "With Full Stereo Sound".

Some ads said Panavision, some said Super Panavision.

It's been a while, but I do remember that it sounded terrific and presumably, in Stereo ?




 
 
 Posted:   Mar 10, 2014 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Back in 2004 we had a wonderful thread on Roadshow Films, and one of the tributaries of the thread went into NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA---what cuts had been made for the general release and whether the film was in stereo or not.

I saw the roadshow of NICHOLAS in Los Angeles (at the old Beverly Theatre in Beverly Hills, I believe) and it was in MONO, much to my dismay.

But please observe the final note to the editors in what I have posted below. After reading these cutters' notes, I would have no question that at least some prints were in mag stereo.



I posted the attached pic in an earlier thread we had on "Nicholas & Alexandra".

In our neck of the woods...Sheffield, UK, the movie was billed as "With Full Stereo Sound".

Some ads said Panavision, some said Super Panavision.

It's been a while, but I do remember that it sounded terrific and presumably, in Stereo ?



thanks for posting the ads again - Im sure that it was in stereo-
watched the BR this weekend and it looks great but it would be so enhanced with the beautiful score by Richard Rodney Bennett in Sterophonic Sound.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

I was lucky enough to get the Soundtrack Library CD of SOLOMON AND SHEBA. The Overture and Intermission music, upon first hearing, seem to be edited together from cues heard elsewhere in the score. Also, I just picked up the laserdisc of the movie, which has no overture or intermission. I was wondering, therefore:

1.) Can anyone confirm that this film really DID have an overture and intermission?

2.) If so, is the music that's marked as such on the CD truly the overture and intermission, or just some cues thrown on the CD and arbitrarily named Overture and Intermission?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

I was lucky enough to get the Soundtrack Library CD of SOLOMON AND SHEBA. The Overture and Intermission music, upon first hearing, seem to be edited together from cues heard elsewhere in the score. Also, I just picked up the laserdisc of the movie, which has no overture or intermission. I was wondering, therefore:

1.) Can anyone confirm that this film really DID have an overture and intermission?

2.) If so, is the music that's marked as such on the CD truly the overture and intermission, or just some cues thrown on the CD and arbitrarily named Overture and Intermission?


I do not remember an intermission in S&S -- or an overture either. Of course it was 54 yrs ago so my memory may be wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

You are right - the film never had an overture or an intermission. one was certainly planned, the UA decided not to roadshow it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

You are right - the film never had an overture or an intermission. one was certainly planned, the UA decided not to roadshow it.

so the Soundtrack Library cues were artificially created for the cd?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

You are right - the film never had an overture or an intermission. one was certainly planned, the UA decided not to roadshow it.

so the Soundtrack Library cues were artificially created for the cd?


I would say "yes" -

When I saw it on that Sunday afternoon at the Woods theater in Chicago in early 1960, even though it was not a reserved seat engagement - I remember that I sat in the balcony - the souvenir program was being sold in the lobby - which would indicate that it had been planned as a roadshow. Also I recall all the very colorful artwork in front of the theater and some inside too - huge posters and photos. They really knew how to ballyhoo pictures back then - a lost art.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

You are right - the film never had an overture or an intermission. one was certainly planned, the UA decided not to roadshow it.

so the Soundtrack Library cues were artificially created for the cd?



Not necessarily so if the 'plan' had been to roadshow the film and UA decided not to...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I remember, you could not pick up a magazine, without seeing a full page ad for Solomon.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

As it is now over 50 years since I first saw the original,"Two a day" Road Show, I don't remember if there was an Overture.

But, here in the UK, there was definitely an Intermission.

It came right after the destruction of the temple when Yul Brynner carries Marissa Pavan out.

There was a "fade to black" and then the Intermission tag.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

For fans of S&S TCM is showing the film on Friday March 14 6:00 AM ET.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   paulw   (Member)

They all had Intermissions in those days. Was there any Intermission music ??

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

They all had Intermissions in those days. Was there any Intermission music ??


Can't remember what it was but, there must have been, in order to get people back in their seats.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

They had a guy with a whip for that, just to keep you in the mood. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 2:02 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

They all had Intermissions in those days. Was there any Intermission music ??


Can't remember what it was but, there must have been, in order to get people back in their seats.



At the Loew's ADONIS in Peoria, they had well-oiled musclemen with whips forcing people away from the exits and back to their seats to watch the remainder of the movie. There weren't many who were able to get away before the second half, and that's why the film
has often had a questionable reputation, based on word-of-mouth reports..... big grin

At other theatres I've heard the exit doors were locked, in total violation of the fire codes..... smile

I saw SOLOMON AND SHEBA in its roadshow engagement at the FOX WILSHIRE in Los Angeles, and enjoyed parts of it, though not all. I can't put my finger on it, but I always
felt there was something tacky about the production, probably the attempt to put this
big spectacle on the screen with a fairly limited budget compared to others of its genre.

But I didn't walk out---I would NEVER walk out on a 70mm presentation. I even sat through KRAKATOA---EAST OF JAVA and SONG OF NORWAY and can cite several elements of each which were enjoyable. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

They had a guy with a whip for that, just to keep you in the mood. smile


pp312.....Great minds obviously think alike. In this case, it could be sick---or dangerous! smile

 
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