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 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   finder4545   (Member)

...And just referring to the PROMISED LAND: is this 3 CD box set an anticipation of another even bigger Elmer Bernstein's wonder coming this year from Intrada?

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 1:26 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Looking forward to ordering this as soon as the cash flow allows.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

...And just referring to the PROMISED LAND: is this 3 CD box set an anticipation of another even bigger Elmer Bernstein's wonder coming this year from Intrada?

As it is written, so shall it be done! eek

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Just for the record: "To Kill A Mockingbird" on the Ava label is the first soundtrack (or, film score) I bought with my own money.

My first soundtrack was "Exodus", but it was a gift.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I was always surprised that Fred Astaire was involved with the Ava label. Astaire into film music? a friend of Bernstein ? Anyone know the story behind Astaire's involvement?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   JEC   (Member)

THE CARETAKERS was the first Bernstein Sountrack LP I bought. At Woolco, in 1975, at a 3 for a dollar sale. Wore out the grooves on it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Or, if you have Amazon prime, you can wait until it's up on Amazon and get free two day shipping. That's how I have been buying recent Intrada CDs.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A2H7RUKI9DTF49


Ah, yes. Spend $80 a year on Amazon Prime in order to get "free" shipping. Not like the service would be of any advantage to me since Amazon.com refuses to ship DVDs (and CDs too, most likely) to my Canadian address for some stupid reason. Americans getting shopping perks yet again while international customers continue to be screwed over. No thanks.


It's not always like that. They cut the fee to $38 because I'm a student, and 2-Day Prime Shipping has come in handy for many textbooks and CDs. Also, they have a bunch of free streaming services, which are quite convenient. I also got some free cloud storage, which I've used to transfer important documents and homework. So in the USA, it definitely can be worth it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

THE CARETAKERS was the first Bernstein Sountrack LP I bought. At Woolco, in 1975, at a 3 for a dollar sale. Wore out the grooves on it.


All through the 1960s to about 1975 the K-Mart type of discount stores sold LPs from 25 cents to $1.00 etc. each. I had so much fun driving to all these discount stores. Most of the LPs I didn't want, but there were many soundtracks and movie themes records to be found. Sometimes on Saturday I would pack a lunch and drive to maybe 10 or 15 stores. I almost always came home with something. Gas was 30 cents a gallon then!

The Ava LPs were already in these stores by 1964 when I found them. I have The Caretakers right now in the shrink wrap that says 50 cents. I found many: Big Valley, Taras Bulba, Greatest Story Ever Told, Cleopatra, Dunwich Horror, Sand Pebbles etc. Plus many movie themes LPs too.

It was fun searching, you never knew what you might find. I did find rare LPs like God's Little Acre , The Barbarian and the Geisha etc.

I found all six Bernstein Ava LPs in 1964, for pennies, that's 50 years ago! Yikes! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)



It's not always like that. They cut the fee to $38 because I'm a student, and 2-Day Prime Shipping has come in handy for many textbooks and CDs. Also, they have a bunch of free streaming services, which are quite convenient. I also got some free cloud storage, which I've used to transfer important documents and homework. So in the USA, it definitely can be worth it.


Thanks for mentioning the student plan; I just updated my information!

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 6:09 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

I found all six Bernstein Ava LPs in 1964, for pennies, that's 50 years ago! Yikes! smile

Let's see...pennies 50 years ago, $30 today... Price hasn't changed much!

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I'd have to listen to the Varese Caretakers to know if that was from these newly-found tapes, but it doesn't matter - this is an incredible package at a very reasonable price.

Ditto your conclusion! FYI, the Varese CARETAKERS purports to be (and I believe it is) OST from original master tapes, rather than the (very nicely) re-recorded tracks that appeared on the Ava release. Much of what is on the Ava is virtually identical to the Varese OST; Elmer did a bit of minor surgery however to make more impactful renderings of the Main Title and End Title, plus his re-recorded source cues (which I like almost as much as the score cues!) have a bit more zip to them than the OST versions. I was thrilled to get the Varese when it came out, and am just as thrilled to now be having the Ava as well. This "Bernstein on Ava" package is truly a dream come true for us old heads who grew to love film music in general and Elmer Bernstein's music in particular from listening to the Ava recordings -- and who have suffered through the seemingly unending series of terrible sounding CD releases of this material. At last, the Promised Land!


I'm glad someone pointed this out. THE CARETAKERS is not really a double-dip because there are some major differences between the Varese OST and the original LP. The Main Title especially I always thought was much more dynamic and exciting in the LP version, so I still listen to my CDR of the LP in addition to the new CD.
Anyway, this is a no-brainer for me. Discounting CARETAKERS and except for THE CARPETBAGGERS, I only have CDRs of my original LPs and one of the poor sounding Mainstream CDs. I've had these albums for decades and they are among my favorites. I can never understand why anyone would prefer LPs to a well-mastered CD form the original tapes, if only for the fact that there is no surface noise and you don't have to deal with the inevitable scratch.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

The music on these recordings never fails to excite, entertain, and send me into exultation. I think the sheer emotional force, a palpable physical presence, of these recordings is what always gets to me. And not through some nostalgic fog. Even with the poor pressings, the compromised sonics, and the missing tracks -- these recordings have fed my soul from the first time they were spun on my Mom and Dad’s old RCA stereo console. I wore out my stereo copy of "To Kill a Mockingbird" when I was a kid. It was magical to me then and now. The music just, for me at least, sings on this recording -- straight to the heart in a totally irrational spell of wonder.

And I purchased "Baby the Rain Must Fall" before I had a private stereo in my bedroom as a kid -- all music in our house was played on the living room RCA console. But eventually I purchased a reel to reel tape recorder -- and the first item of business was to set up a single mike in front of the RCA console and transfer BTRMF onto tape. I must've played that tape over a thousand times in my bedroom before I got my own stereo.

The music still seems fresh to me -- pouncing on the notes and ripping the air like a hopped-up jalopy, teasing emotion from the genius melodies that are spun in gossamer webs, or creating emotional tone poems of fragile delicacy.

For me, priceless. I am humbled by this music.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I found all six Bernstein Ava LPs in 1964, for pennies, that's 50 years ago! Yikes! smile

Let's see...pennies 50 years ago, $30 today... Price hasn't changed much!




Ah Dana, things aren't THAT bad today.

A 50 cent LP in 1964, that's maybe $3 to $4 today?

Then again, I found some LPs for 25 cents each! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 8:21 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Unbelievably great! And the price is a friggin' stea... I MEAN boo Intrada. Boo. How dare you... um... make an offer like that. I'll show you!

: throws wallet really hard :

There. Feel the shame.


This was actually pretty funny

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

The music on these recordings never fails to excite, entertain, and send me into exultation. I think the sheer emotional force, a palpable physical presence, of these recordings is what always gets to me. And not through some nostalgic fog. Even with the poor pressings, the compromised sonics, and the missing tracks -- these recordings have fed my soul from the first time they were spun on my Mom and Dad’s old RCA stereo console. I wore out my stereo copy of "To Kill a Mockingbird" when I was a kid. It was magical to me then and now. The music just, for me at least, sings on this recording -- straight to the heart in a totally irrational spell of wonder.

And I purchased "Baby the Rain Must Fall" before I had a private stereo in my bedroom as a kid -- all music in our house was played on the living room RCA console. But eventually I purchased a reel to reel tape recorder -- and the first item of business was to set up a single mike in front of the RCA console and transfer BTRMF onto tape. I must've played that tape over a thousand times in my bedroom before I got my own stereo.

The music still seems fresh to me -- pouncing on the notes and ripping the air like a hopped-up jalopy, teasing emotion from the genius melodies that are spun in gossamer webs, or creating emotional tone poems of fragile delicacy.

For me, priceless. I am humbled by this music.




"a single mike in front of the RCA console (speaker) .... "

In 1966 I bought a reel to reel recorder. For a few days I held a mike in front of the TV to tape main titles etc. Our barking dog would bark, and I would hear barking on the main titles I taped.

So, I went to Radio Shack and for a dollar or two bought a cord with a phono plug on one end and two alligator clips on the other. I clipped the alligator end to the TV speaker inside the TV, the other end to my reel recorder. Not very high tech, but it worked fine.

In the 60s that was the only way to get some music from classic golden age films. Never dreamed 50 years later we would be getting CDs to these films! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 9:08 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Here's all the great artwork Intrada posted on their site






Looks good, but the name of the label is ÄVA, not AVA.
Seeing as it's the actual title of the set, and appears correctly on all the individually reproduced LP covers, they should have got it right.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

What do those two dots above the "a" signify? Excuse me, I don't know. Is it a Swedish thing?

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

What do those two dots above the "a" signify? Excuse me, I don't know. Is it a Swedish thing?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Looks good, but the name of the label is ÄVA, not AVA.
Seeing as it's the actual title of the set, and appears correctly on all the individually reproduced LP covers, they should have got it right.



As long as we're getting down to cases, it's äva and not ÄVA.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2014 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Anyone receive this marvelous set yet?

 
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