Film Score Monthly
FSM HOME MESSAGE BOARD FSM CDs FSM ONLINE RESOURCES FUN STUFF ABOUT US  SEARCH FSM   
Search Terms: 
Search Within:   search tips 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 2:14 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I agree. A character doesn't deserve to get a kick-ass theme in his first outing and have it completely disregarded for something lame second time out, does he Robocop 2?? wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Microceratops   (Member)


Uuhhh....

Henry Jackman recently confirmed to Empire that the modern overhaul extends to the score: Cap has an entirely new theme for his new era, replacing Alan Silvestri's First Avenger work.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=40363

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

Not to give any judgments to an unreleased movie, but this reminds me of another movie that Hugh Jackman scored that was
1. An action film
2. A sequel
3. Released in early spring

G.I. Joe: Retaliation (released in the USA on March 28, 2013). And we both know how the film and music turned out to be.

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   jedizim   (Member)


And we both know how the film and music turned out to be.


Yeah...quite good on both accounts.

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   ArjanOudekerk   (Member)

Not to give any judgments to an unreleased movie, but this reminds me of another movie that Hugh Jackman scored that was
1. An action film
2. A sequel
3. Released in early spring

G.I. Joe: Retaliation (released in the USA on March 28, 2013). And we both know how the film and music turned out to be.


I can barely stand Hugh Jackman singing but having him compose..... wink
I think you meant Henry Jackman.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

I love his XMFC score and hugely dissapointed he was replaced for the sequel. That score is so underrated. Great themes throughout. Hated his GI Joe score, but if CA is anything like XMFC then Life will be better.

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

BFGM? TGRC? oh... I get it... BLFMDC!

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Not to give any judgments to an unreleased movie, but this reminds me of another movie that [Henry] Jackman scored that was
1. An action film
2. A sequel
3. Released in early spring

G.I. Joe: Retaliation (released in the USA on March 28, 2013). And we both know how the film and music turned out to be.


Not only that, but it's a sequel to a movie that had the score composed by Silvestri. Hopefully the Winter Soldier soundtrack is more like X-Men: First Class, which had power and some catchy themes, and not as much like G.I.Joe: Retaliation, which had... power rock stuff that I didn't enjoy. Anyhoo, less than a month before we can find out!

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I remember the making-of X-Men video where Jackman relates how he had laid down the bassline for his theme when the director came in, heard it it, and said, "That's it! That's the theme!" So really that theme was supposed to be rhythmic background/foundation to a bigger, more complex theme.

 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

I remember the making-of X-Men video where Jackman relates how he had laid down the bassline for his theme when the director came in, heard it it, and said, "That's it! That's the theme!" So really that theme was supposed to be rhythmic background/foundation to a bigger, more complex theme.

I remember that! He called it a big "Barry pastiche".

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 7, 2014 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Not to give any judgments to an unreleased movie, but this reminds me of another movie that Hugh Jackman scored that was
1. An action film
2. A sequel
3. Released in early spring

G.I. Joe: Retaliation (released in the USA on March 28, 2013). And we both know how the film and music turned out to be.


I thought his Retaliation score was entertaining, although I agree the film was piss-poor and a major letdown after the fun first movie.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/captain-america-winter-soldier-4-minute-preview/


"While the first Captain America touted an Americana score reflective of the World War II era, Jackman delivered a modern score that reflected the current era in which Captain America dwells. "He's a fish out of water in a more corrupt, nuanced environment with his value system inherited from the 1950s," explains Jackman about one of his inspirations for the score, "the psychological credibility and modernity of what directors Anthony and Joe Russo did with Captain America has an impact on the music.
"While Jackman created a melodic score for the character of Captain America, he incorporated a sonic-experimental sound coupled with offbeat harmonies and a choir for the superhero's foes in the film, the evil organization HYDRA. One of the central themes in the sequel pertained to its main antagonist, the Winter Soldier. "He's a relentless, barbaric machine, but inside of him are the tortured remnants of a human being. I relied upon symphonic horn for him, but mixed with a lot of damaged material. I experimented with various melodies after two or three notes and spent a good deal of time on the rhythm," explains the composer. In total, Jackman created a 105 minute score which he recorded at Air Studios in London, England."

I am hopefully looking forward to that 'melodic' theme that is mentioned for Cap.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2014 - 5:31 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Uuhhh....

Henry Jackman recently confirmed to Empire that the modern overhaul extends to the score: Cap has an entirely new theme for his new era, replacing Alan Silvestri's First Avenger work.

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=40363


It's ironic how Tyler quoted the CA theme in the Thor sequel but didn't quote Doyle's Thor theme from the previous movie. I still believe the Silvestri theme could work for this film. Silvestri's score for the previous film wasn't that old fashioned. The way the theme was used in some of the action scenes ("Howling Commandos Montage" and "Motorcycle Mayhem") didn't sound cheesy or corny, imo. In fact it was played more as an action motif. That approach could still work for this film, imo. I'm not saying Jackman should be handcuffed to Silvestri's theme. I don't have a problem with him writing a new theme I just think Silvestri's theme should be used in moments that call for it i.e. how Ottman quoted the Williams Superman march in Superman Returns, i moments that called for it. Whatever Jackman comes up with I hope it's great b/c I think it is a mistake to ignore theme completely.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

The soundtrack comes out less than a month and still no details or artwork have been revealed about it. Wonder what's the hold up?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   goldsmither   (Member)

Artwork & Track list
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00IXH5Z1Q/

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)



1 Lemurian Star
2 Project Insight
3 The Smithsonian
4 An Old Friend
5 Fury
6 The Winter Soldier
7 Fallen
8 Alexander Pierce
9 Taking a Stand
10 Frozen in Time
11 Hydra
12 Natasha
13 The Causeway
14 Time to Suit Up
15 Into the Fray
16 Countdown
17 End of the Line
18 Captain America
19 It's Been a Long, Long Time - Harry James and His Orchestra
20 Trouble Man - Marvin Gaye

No track times, but it does say the total time is 1:14:32.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

So is this not being released by Intrada? I'm fairly baffled by how they decide what is released by Walt Disney Records themselves and what is released via Intrada. THE AVENGERS and THOR: THE DARK WORLD via Intrada, IRON MAN 3 and CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER by Walt Disney Records themselves. Odd.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

So is this not being released by Intrada? I'm fairly baffled by how they decide what is released by Walt Disney Records themselves and what is released via Intrada. THE AVENGERS and THOR: THE DARK WORLD via Intrada, IRON MAN 3 and CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER by Walt Disney Records themselves. Odd.


Not by Intrada, but Hollywood Records. They seem to have been switching back and forth until recently, because Guardians of the Galaxy also has 'Hollywood Records' listed.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   cdelelee   (Member)

May be Intrada doesn't want to release the score because it sucks. And believe me, it really sucks.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 7:13 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

I think this would've made a better album cover.



I'm hoping Jackman delivers a solid score b/c I'm very much looking forward to the film itself.

 
You must log in or register to post.
  Go to page:    
© 2014 Film Score Monthly. All Rights Reserved.