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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2013 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   Beanis   (Member)

So, is anyone willing to give a review for those on the fence about picking this up?

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2013 - 7:09 AM   
 By:   Deadwalker   (Member)

So, is anyone willing to give a review for those on the fence about picking this up?


Pick it up

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2013 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   ddddeeee   (Member)

Some weird stuff added to the end of the main titles, but the original cue is there anywhere so it's no big deal. Also Alan's presentation of the album omits 'Stranger in the House' but again the original album is there so it's not an issue.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

Just received Halloween 5 "expanded", here my comments:

First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.

The 2013 and 1989 mixes are very similar and the main differences I could spot where:

Some rock beats inserted at 0:25 of "The Child of Evil Must Die" 2013 mix.

A stinger at the end of the 2013 mix of Victim #1 (not present at the 1989 mix), not sure which is closer to the film version.

First 0:58 of "Stranger Things" 2013 mix (including a short rock version of the main theme) is not present at the 1989 mix (Stranger In The House). But final 1:40 minutes of Stranger In The House (the "Myers House" piano theme from the 1st movie is not included in the 2013 mix).

"Tower Farm Murders" 2013 mix is very different to "Tower Farm" in its first 2:15 minutes, the 2013 mix includes Jamie's Theme from H4 and some different stingers and piano renditions of Myer's House at the beginning while the 1989 mix has some different suspense music and the Halloween theme at the beginning.

"The Raging Must Stop" 2013 mix includes one additional minute, some extended suspense music added between 1:00 and 2:57 of the track.

Those were the differences I could spot on a first comparison. As I only saw the film once years ago I can not comment on which version is closer to the actual film score.

So far I'd rank the AHI Halloween expansions as follows:

1- Halloween III - essential. It was the one more in need for expansion. The AHI version is not perfect (some of the music is not included [film version of Chariots of Pumpikins, some mask announcements] the additional material is not very well organized, some additional music mixed with alternates, one track with a 1min. silence and odd tracks names) but it includes the more essential missing material.

2 - Halloween 4 - highly recomended. An expansion done properly, the additional material placed in its chronological order and this one seems really complete (but you need to keep the album if you prefer certain album edits)

3- Halloween 5 - recomended for fans. New mix sounds good. I liked the insert of Jamie's Theme from H4 (wish it had been used more on H5 and H6), but not sure if it represents the film score better than the 1989 album (which already claimed to include the complete score). If you like the songs from the movie you'll need to keep the Varese edition.

4 - Halloween II - missed oportunity. Very odd mixes, cross fade at the album main title plus missing material makes this one of the worst "expanded" editions ever released. Keep the original album.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Thanks for the comparisons danbeck!

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 5:34 PM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

Thanks Danbeck. I'll probably pick this up somewhere down the road, mostly for the remastered 1989 program.
I'll have to watch the movie again to get reacquainted with the film score to give it a comparison.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2013 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

Just received Halloween 5 "expanded", here my comments:

First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.

The 2013 and 1989 mixes are very similar and the main differences I could spot where:

Some rock beats inserted at 0:25 of "The Child of Evil Must Die" 2013 mix.

A stinger at the end of the 2013 mix of Victim #1 (not present at the 1989 mix).

First 0:58 of "Stranger Things" 2013 mix (including a short rock version of the main theme) is not present at the 1989 mix (Stranger In The House). But final 1:40 minutes of Stranger In The House (the "Myers House" piano theme from the 1st movie is not included in the 2013 mix).

"Tower Farm Murders" 2013 mix is very different to "Tower Farm" in its first 2:15 minutes, the 2013 mix includes Jamie's Theme from H4 and some different stingers and piano renditions of Myer's House at the beginning while the first 1:25 of the 1989 mix has different suspense music and the Halloween theme at the beginning (for the murders at the barn).

"The Raging Must Stop" 2013 mix includes one additional minute, some extended suspense music added between 1:00 and 2:57 of the track.


Just watched the movie again and in fact the 2013 mix is more faithful to the film version, the rock beats, Jamie's theme and additional stingers that were absent from the 1989 album are as they appeared at the movie.

Therefore it is really a more complete version. The two issues in this release are the omission of the finale of the "stranger in the house" on the 2013 mixes (but available at the album program) and the omission of the first 1:25 min of "tower farm" on the 2013 mixes (also available at the album program) - plus the wrong labeling of the album Main Title.

In order to organize a more complete film version program you'll need to add to the 2013 mixes the last 1:40 min. of the Stranger In The House album cue and the first 1:25 of Tower Farm album cue (which is the music for the murders of the couple in the barn).

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.


Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 4:43 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.


Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?


That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.

It's what we've come to expect from AHI. I also almost guarantee that the artwork was not sent over with the missing piece of a letter, and if it were, any graphics person worth their salt could easily fix it. Lazy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.

It's what we've come to expect from AHI. I also almost guarantee that the artwork was not sent over with the missing piece of a letter, and if it were, any graphics person worth their salt could easily fix it. Lazy.


Really? That's what the production company sent and approved.

They have the final approval and folks tend to be very unhappy if you mess with their logos.

Their artwork and their call.

That is how it works in the real world.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 6:58 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

DOUBLE POST

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 1:58 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Are people still going on about the 5 being cut off for a tiny portion? Jeez, get a life! It seems some people on here are deliberately seeking out mistakes. I wont be bothered with the '5' controversy nor the fact that one track is mislabeled. From what I've read of danbeck's post the expansion is good enough and hardly the disaster Halloween II turned out to be, and which some people on this board can't get over.

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.


Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?


That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.

Ford A. Thaxton



So you aren't willing to ask them for us and report back to us?

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Considering Howarth's reputation as an "audio genius" - these re-issues aren't half problematic. Such a shame.

It's what we've come to expect from AHI. I also almost guarantee that the artwork was not sent over with the missing piece of a letter, and if it were, any graphics person worth their salt could easily fix it. Lazy.


Really? That's what the production company sent and approved.

They have the final approval and folks tend to be very unhappy if you mess with their logos.

Their artwork and their call.

That is how it works in the real world.

Ford A. Thaxton


Know what else happens in the real world, Ford? People on the production end of things notice mistakes and call the appropriate contact to let them know. Then they ask them if there's a corrected file or if they mind corrections being made and re-approved of? Are you telling me that you and/or the rest of the production team noticed this error and just left it like that? Or are you just talking out of your ass because you didn't previously notice this? I, too, work in a world where graphics need to be approved of, and the "real world" you describe is one of little attention to detail - which, as I stated, has become quite common with AHI's releases.

But please, Ford, ignore the fact that there are complaints with just about every release AHI does and pretend that you're in the real world and we're in a world of fantasy where quality, attention to detail, attention to how music is mixed, attention to how music is listed on the back cover, matters but really shouldn't... in the real world.

And believe me, I'm not one for lambasting a label for the occasional mistake, but a) they're common with AHI; and b) instead of ever having an inkling of understanding as to why fans who plonk down their hard-earned money should gripe about mistakes like these, you always take the Ford road, which is to turn the criticism back onto those who actually have a point to make and lambaste them for actually caring about a little quality in the product you, sir, produce.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.


Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?


That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.

Ford A. Thaxton



So you aren't willing to ask them for us and report back to us?



You can do it yourself…

go to http://alanhowarth.com and send him a email through his site.

He does read them.

So, drop him a note.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)


First it is important to remark that there's a mistake on the track listing. Track 12 "The Revenge" is not a "2013 mix", but it should've been listed as the first track of the 1989 album. Therefore both the 2013 mix and the 1989 album includes 11 score tracks.


Wow. Ford, will corrected back tray covers be printed?


That's an issue you take up with Mr. Howarth, it's a AHI release.

Ford A. Thaxton



So you aren't willing to ask them for us and report back to us?



You can do it yourself…

go to http://alanhowarth.com and send him a email through his site.

He does read them.

So, drop him a note.


Ford A. Thaxton


Yes, folks. Contact the composer to ask him if new tray liners will be produced. That should work out nicely for everyone.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Know what else happens in the real world, Ford?

Fanboys get very upset when you tell them the truth and they can't handle it…...

If you wish to take this up with Mr. Howarth, be my guest:

You can contact him at

alanhowarth.com

He reads his email.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2013 - 10:23 AM   
 By:   Accidental Genius   (Member)

Know what else happens in the real world, Ford?

Fanboys get very upset when you tell them the truth and they can't handle it…...

If you wish to take this up with Mr. Howarth, be my guest:

You can contact him at

alanhowarth.com

He reads his email.

Ford A. Thaxton


Aw, fanboys. Yes, folks. There's the world of Ford A. Thaxton and then there are the fanboys, which not only negates the fact that there are many types of soundtrack music fans out there, but that there are also fans of the female gender as well. Aah, the antiquated and cute little "real world" of Ford A. Thaxton.

Truly, though, who doesn't love a good "conversation" with the Fordster? Rob Ford A. Thaxton, as we say here in Toronto, Canada, eh?

 
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