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 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 7:35 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Didn't MR Kendall say a long time ago, no FLATLINERS-90- which would be a shame since it was such a beautiful score.

That was before the "archival rate" the AFM has set up (which is what has allowed all the CDs that have come out since 2005).

All good things come to those who wait 23 years.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 7:47 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Lawrence of Arabia complete. (tapes said to have been lost or destroyed)
Mad Max 1 & 2 (tapes said to have been recycled)
Battle Beyond the Stars (Horner has tapes in lockdown - is super embarrassed about the performance)
Young Guns Rejected (Horner sensitive about this one too)
Willow (LucasFilm, but could be up for review if Disney owns it)
The Dark Crystal complete (Trevor Jones has masters in lockdown)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Difficult, but "never say never releases":

BATMAN AND ROBIN

I speak from experience. Hopefully one day a miracle will occur.

frown

MV


Is Batman and Robin still an issue with Watertower?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 7:52 AM   
 By:   rommel_1942   (Member)

i dont't know their exact status - but i doubt i will ever have Friedhofer's Vera Cruz or DeVol's Ulzana's Raid

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

I think multiple people have said that John Williams refuses to allow a release of his score for The Sugarland Express.

well, he won´t live forever.


Well hopefully Williams will live to be 100+.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

It continues to intrigue me that whenever someone asks a question like the one above, i.e. "What famous scores will NEVER be released?", there is a considerable amount of people who automatically think about C&C (complete & chronological) releases, even if a perfectly fine soundtrack may already exist out there. That's where we're at right now. It's all a matter of interpretation, I guess, but I doubt you'd see replies like that back in the pre-niche label days.

Be that as it may, I guess you need to be really specific these days, i.e. point out that you're talking about scores that have had no release in any form whatsoever. That's the way I interpreted barryfan's original question. Maybe he can clarify.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:28 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)


Is Batman and Robin still an issue with Watertower?


Yeah, with the premiere Warners releases that have been coming out over the past year I thought this was no longer an issue...you think they'd be more willing to let you do it considering all the other Batman releases you've done, too.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

What's the point with "The Godfather" Trilogy? I thought that was easy to go!

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

That's true, but he's quite resourceful. For example, he recently used leftover time with an orchestra and opera singers for a Wagner recording (can't remember which) to record his own opera GRENDEL -- to be released in the near future. Maybe he could do something similar for this?

He did the same thing when recording HEAT. Mann asked for music he'd written weeks before and the guy who went to get the conductor's sheet (I think) got caught in traffic, so Elliot had them play Wagner while they're waiting.

Heres the trick: you pay for the players, you pay for the recording, you pay to rent the hall - doesn't mean that you can budget two things at once. Just because he was able to do Wagner on a lark doesn't mean he'd be able to do it as a justification for a recording. Time is money, after all.

I'd be perfectly happy to get B&R in any format length but considering the size of the performers needed and the synth overlays, its a lot of work to consider. Nothing is impossible but some things are just so unlikely, you might as well label them impossible.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

Difficult, but "never say never releases":

TOP GUN

To name a few...

I speak from experience. Hopefully one day a miracle will occur.

frown

MV


Top Gun needs a miracle? What the heck? *sigh*

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Death Incarnate   (Member)

The original tracks of Psycho.

I read this often, but it's out there somewhere. I have a rip of a Japanese laserdisc with the original score.

That being said:
The Road Warrior frown
Alien 3 frown

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

What's the deal with Beverly Hills Cop 2?

Regarding Alien3, indeed it sucks but at least the blu-ray iso track can wet the appetite until it does become a reality. I also want to mention the "Storyteller" scores which also didn't get a release despite La-la efforts.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Speaking of Road Warrior, do we know what else was thrown out when Ric (I think?) jumped into the garbage bins to save Beyond Thunderdome?

And though I wouldn't put it under NEVER - Moonraker certainly seems to be lost in a bad way.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Ed Lachmann   (Member)

Sadly, I think one must include THE TEN COMMANDMENTS complete. Had dared to dream of this one by Easter of this year, but have given up all hope, even though fine original elements are said to exist. It would be wonderful, however, to be proven wrong. Would be nice to hear it before I am ten feet under.

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Haven't been following the board too closely, eh?

http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=95046&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=205#bottom

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

Sadly, I think one must include THE TEN COMMANDMENTS complete. Had dared to dream of this one by Easter of this year, but have given up all hope, even though fine original elements are said to exist. It would be wonderful, however, to be proven wrong. Would be nice to hear it before I am ten feet under.

Then you haven't read Doug's recent post At Intrada that it's indeed coming and soon. Dunno how much mote convincing you need to keep the faith. :-)

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 9:48 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

"Damnation Alley", tapes survive, the last word was, but the electronic elements do not.

I was hoping maybe one day somebody could get Joel to re-produce them, but that day has passed.


I have a loose listing of missing/destroyed/etc. master tapes from over the years; these are mostly, thoughn ot exclusively, from label heads comments on the board (Lukas, Roger, MV, etc.):
http://rejectedfilmscores.150m.com/lost.html

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Death Incarnate   (Member)

That's true, but he's quite resourceful. For example, he recently used leftover time with an orchestra and opera singers for a Wagner recording (can't remember which) to record his own opera GRENDEL -- to be released in the near future. Maybe he could do something similar for this?

Awesome! An official Grendel release is LONG overdue. I mean geesh, he was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize in Music for it, and no release!
I've settled for an audience recording, but it's not exactly hi-fi.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)

I'm surprised no one has mentioned:

THE PINK PANTHER (film version)
A SHOT IN THE DARK

 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2013 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Any news about the MOONRAKER tapes?

 
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