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 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   johndupree52   (Member)

The second volume of Batman: TAS, the complete Phantom, and the complete X-Men 2 (I'm kind of glad I held off on the regular version for so long)?

I really wanted to use a picture or a video clip of Cartman's reaction to inheriting one million dollars, but as I can't find them, I will simply say holy shit.


Here you go:

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Smokey McBongwater   (Member)

I am most pleased with the announcements of The Phantom and Black Rain. Passing on the rest.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

I only paid $1.49 for my one-disc copy of X2 and $1.99 for my one-disc copy of The Phantom so upgrading them won't break the bank. I'll just sell the old ones to Vintage Stock and hopefully break even.

Also, if you want the Shirley Walker interview then just check Amazon Marketplace for the first edition.

Edit: never mind. The lowest price for Batman: The Animated Series Volume 1 is $150.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   Penelope Pineapple   (Member)

... Re-releasing it with slightly less doesn't screw over everyone that bought in the first place expecting it to be a truly limited edition.

It's not "sad bullshit," it's a record company respecting their customers for once....


So, in your opinion every *straight* reissue, every new limited edition of whatever title, expanded and improved, means a "lack of respect" for customers? roll eyes


Well, what's your definition of "reissue"? There's a difference between something that's pressed and sold to infinity with no finite production number that just eventually goes out of print, and something that's pressed as a "strictly" limited edition of X numbers.

By not including a several cues on this re-release (that I'm not even interested in), LLL preserves their original release as a truly limited edition, and people who purchased it can know that even though it's being re-released, their first-edition pressing is different in a significant way. Plus, for all we know, contractual issues might have prevented them from re-releasing the same album again.

Re-releases, expansions, and re-issues should be taken on a case-by-case basis. In this instance, I think it's entirely fair for LLL to do this, especially so for those who purchased the original.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   TM2-Megatron   (Member)

I have to admit, as someone who just didn't know about the specialty soundtrack labels at the time the first Batman:TAS set was released, I'd have appreciated being able to listen to the two omitted tracks (I know, there are other ways to do so, but I don't download files I haven't bought). But I'm not going to lose any sleep over it as it's a great release regardless.

I think probably changing the front cover art and, perhaps, disc art, should be enough to appease first edition buyers and preserve the integrity of the first set. Maybe even put an ugly border with a "Second Edition" heading around the cover art so that original buyers feel good about having something more aesthetically pleasing. Removing tracks preserves not only the set's integrity, which is nice, but also the profit margins of eBay scalpers, and that's less nice, lol. Nobody seems to take issue with the reprint of FSM's Blue Box (although maybe they did at the time, I have no idea), and that only differs in the addition of text indicating the fact it's a 2nd printing on the included booklet. A Blue Box booklet without that addition might be more "valuable" in a collectible sense, but at least I still have all the tracks. And eBay and Amazon Marketplace sellers aren't ripping people off.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Penelope Pineapple   (Member)

Because then the first release would be superfluous, and everyone who purchased it would have something worthless on their hands (metaphorically speaking). Re-releasing it with slightly less doesn't screw over everyone that bought in the first place expecting it to be a truly limited edition.


I already have the earlier edition of Batman, so I think it's a bit unfortunate that those about to buy the new edition should be refused the very interesting last track of Shirley Walker explaining the construction of her work, just to appease some who might moan about the words "limited edition".
Are you saying that as an owner of the first edition, I should feel some pleasure that others will now be deprived of that track? Do you yourself feel better for the fact that new buyers will not be able to enjoy it? Should a third edition, in a few years' time, lop off another couple of tracks, to keep buyers of the second edition happy?


I'm not at all saying that you should feel "pleasure" at having something others don't. (And I'll note again that I don't even have this release nor do I have any interest in it.) People can complain all they want, but if something was marketed originally as a "limited edition" with a finite production number, then that's what it should be. I'm pretty sure that's what "limited edition" means. If LLL were to release the exact same thing again, their first pressing would no longer be a "limited edition."

Maybe it has to be different for contractual reasons. Considering that it's been sold out for some time, and people have apparently been clamoring for more, I find it odd that when LLL finally releases not only more, but a (slightly different) re-release of the first volume, the first thing people do is complain. Again, if someone wanted it that bad, they should have purchased back when it was released originally. And if they couldn't for whatever reason, well, that's the nature of the beast.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

if something was marketed originally as a "limited edition" with a finite production number, then that's what it should be. I'm pretty sure that's what "limited edition" means. If LLL were to release the exact same thing again, their first pressing would no longer be a "limited edition."



If I missed a limited edition of a DVD movie, I wouldn't expect a subsequent edition to chop out a couple of scenes, just to make it different.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

memo to greg espinoza:
bring an extra $60 with you to COMICON*
smile
bruce

*that's for MY copy


Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!!!! wink

I've always said you have a great sense of humor. smile

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:19 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I am most pleased with the announcements of The Phantom and Black Rain. Passing on the rest.

I'm happy about Batman: TAS, V2. But yeah, Black Rain and The Phantom are must-haves.

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Given that many other titles have been re-pressed largely unchanged by now, it only makes sense that the choice to release this one with a few tracks missing was contractual. I'm sure they would have simply re-pressed it if they could have.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:21 PM   
 By:   Penelope Pineapple   (Member)

if something was marketed originally as a "limited edition" with a finite production number, then that's what it should be. I'm pretty sure that's what "limited edition" means. If LLL were to release the exact same thing again, their first pressing would no longer be a "limited edition."



If I missed a limited edition of a DVD movie, I wouldn't expect a subsequent edition to chop out a couple of scenes, just to make it different.


You're comparing apples and oranges.

Limited edition DVD releases usually come with or in special packaging and typically contain bonus content that is not on subsequent releases and / or the "standard" edition that is released concurrently with the "limited edition" release.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Wedge   (Member)

Yes -- this is not analogous to cutting scenes out of a movie or chapters out of a book. It's more like dropping a DVD bonus feature or exclusive preface. In both cases, the main artistic program is still present in its totality ... and so it is here.

It's quite understandable to be disappointed if you missed BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES, VOL. 1 the first time around, and would have enjoyed the extra bonus content. But please don't allow that to overwhelm the bigger picture, which is that there were formerly ZERO CDs of music from this series -- arguably the best music ever written for television -- available, in print, on the primary market. Now there will be six.

SIX! And probably more to come!

If this had been true when I was 12 years old, I might have died of happiness!

For that matter, I still might! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   URI   (Member)

By not including a several cues on this re-release (that I'm not even interested in), LLL preserves their original release as a truly limited edition...

And, again: what a “genial” idea!roll eyes As someone mentioned, why La-La Land did not “preserve” the original release simply marking this last set with “2nd edition”? And by the way, this is indeed not a reissue, this is a non-reissue.

Long life to “limited editions” like BEN-HUR by FSM!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 7:25 PM   
 By:   Shock-Wave   (Member)

Gulp!

Now that's some great sdtk releases for Comic Con and this year.

Kind of speechless and short on $$$. Hmmm the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one...

wink

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

And, again: what a “genial” idea!

Don't you love when momma's entitled little children take time enough away from sucking tit to decide to make FSM memberships for the sole purpose of complaining about something they don't like? Good gravy.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 8:22 PM   
 By:   Anthony Marose   (Member)

This is very disappointing. I originally missed the Batman release. Why not re-issue it as it originally was? Lukas did it for Superman, Intrada did it for titles. It just doesn't make sense; LLL is more interested in preserving the integrity of a few "it's-limited-damnit!" complainers, but not the integrity of the artists' work? Wow... Just wow.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

MV, apologize for calling Varese Sarabande lazy now.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

MV, apologize for calling Varese Sarabande lazy now.

Nope. They were lazy. Intrada should have got the release and done it right. 'Nuff said.

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:01 PM   
 By:   McMillan & Husband   (Member)

MV, apologize for calling Varese Sarabande lazy now.

Nope. They were lazy. Intrada should have got the release and done it right. 'Nuff said.

MV


Wow. Classy.

 
 Posted:   Jun 30, 2012 - 9:07 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Let's give MV some slack.

He wanted to maintain the integrity of the first edition, so he left off 2 tracks (1 alternate and an interview track).

That is NOT a lazy choice, but a deliberate one.

Also, this release was done for demand. Many missed this, and they wanted to put it out along with Volume 2 for those who did.

Varese did not issue volume 2s of the releases MV is referring to. MV DID.

 
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