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 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Basil   (Member)

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SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY (EXPANDED)

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FOREVER YOUNG EXPANDED ARCHIVAL COLLECTION

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Expanded, expanded. OK. But complete or not complete? This is my problem.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Expanded, expanded. OK. But complete or not complete? This is my problem.

Does it matter? (Yes, they'll both probably be complete).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

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SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY (EXPANDED)

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FOREVER YOUNG EXPANDED ARCHIVAL COLLECTION

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Expanded, expanded. OK. But complete or not complete? This is my problem.



I think MV had said he stopped using the term "complete" since the nitpickers always find something they feel is missing to stir up some stink. So now he just says "expanded"

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

Expanded, expanded. OK. But complete or not complete? This is my problem.

Oh hi Basil! Fancy here meeting with you today. LOL

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

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SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY (EXPANDED)

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FOREVER YOUNG EXPANDED ARCHIVAL COLLECTION

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Expanded, expanded. OK. But complete or not complete? This is my problem.



I think MV had said he stopped using the term "complete" since the nitpickers always find something they feel is missing to stir up some stink. So now he just says "expanded"




That is correct. I'm sure they're both complete.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Expanded, expanded. OK. But complete or not complete? This is my problem.

Oh hi Basil! Fancy here meeting with you today. LOL



That's the problem with changing screen names on this message board; It allows a new user to sign up with your old name frown

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

These two releases are the reason why I did not order Intrada`s Explorers immediately. I thought that I might get lucky regarding Explorers still be around when these is released.

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 1:47 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

That's the problem with changing screen names on this message board; It allows a new user to sign up with your old name frown

I was only planning to keep this name temporarily, but hey, I wouldn't mind being stuck as a pony...






Everyone else will still remember me as Basil anyway...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Bromhead   (Member)

FOREVER YOUNG only has 34 minutes of score on the original album so im sure we can expect another 20-25 minutes on the expanded release.....................

Well there are plenty of scores that are just 30 or so minutes long so that is not always the case.


Yes i agree with your point but i would hope for some extra score.I personally would not buy it for 40 mins of out takes and alternate cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

Thank you...thank you

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

Throughout the movie, Jerry's score is always accessible in tone, spotting, etc., adding emotional resonance to individual scenes but not forgetting--just as importantly (and as alluded to)--to tie the individual scenes together and help make them feel like a collective whole. Simply put, the score does everything a score basically ought to do.

you can use that very same ¿argument? about 100.000.000 scores. In exact words! Congrats!!!

(and, hey, I love FOREVER YOUNG CD).

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

SPECIAL OFFER: Buy both titles directly from the La La Land Records website and recieve a $5 discount
(Offer expires Sept 26, 2011)


Say...
Instead of $5 bucks off, can we just get free shipping?


That's what's it come out to anyways...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   Basil   (Member)

... MV had said he stopped using the term "complete" since the nitpickers always find something they feel is missing to stir up some stink ...

confused Sorry but it does not make sense. How can I "feel" that something is missing when the score is objectively complete? Some example, please?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I've loved Forever Young for years! Found out how good it was after it was OOP though. I'll have to check this one out.

As to Sleeping With the Enemy... I don't know it. We'll see. I recently read that FSM has a big Jerry month coming up. *Fingers crossed for the "big one"* You know what I'm talking about...

 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

... MV had said he stopped using the term "complete" since the nitpickers always find something they feel is missing to stir up some stink ...

confused Sorry but it does not make sense. How can I "feel" that something is missing when the score is objectively complete? Some example, please?


This all depends on the title.

For example if the score contains all the cues the composer recorded then TECHNICALLY it is complete but sometimes a composer, producer, director, or someone decides to use half of a cue and add it for another scene that it doesn't really belong to OR just the first half of that cue or even the end so should the score contain a repeat of a cue?

Or when the End Credits is really two existing cues added together without any significant change that the composer never created probably has no place in the release but some buyers will feel it does.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

For example if the score contains all the cues the composer recorded then TECHNICALLY it is complete but sometimes a composer, producer, director, or someone decides to use half of a cue and add it for another scene that it doesn't really belong to OR just the first half of that cue or even the end so should the score contain a repeat of a cue?

Or when the End Credits is really two existing cues added together without any significant change that the composer never created probably has no place in the release but some buyers will feel it does.


I'll never get people who want the CD to represent the music in film, even if it's not what was written. If it's got all of what the composer wrote, then it's complete. Period. I guess I'll have to edit "Final Flight" into "A New Ending" so I've got the end credits to Star Trek: Nemesis in complete form. Gimme a break.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2011 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Shock-Wave   (Member)

OMG Goldsmith overload. Oh yeah I can take it!

Thanks MV

smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2011 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   delta__blues   (Member)

I'll order both although the wife will throttle me!

So I figure if we're getting expanded Sleeping and Forever, then my fave Goldsmith score - in deed, fave score of all time, The Russia House (gorgeous film also) will receive an expanded treatment also.

Peeps and Goldsmith himself said the original album was too long, I say nay and thrice nay - there was even more perfection in the score on film and I'd love to get it all on disc - admittedly the best stuff is already on the original album. Plus I'm wearing my one out after playing it hundreds of times since 1990. It's the film that made me want to start playing saxophone.

On the subject of the lovely Alone In the World, with those achingly beautiful Bergman lyrics and fine Marsalis soprano solo, having lived with that version for so many years, although I love Streisand's rendition on What matters Most, I still love Patti Austin's vocal - what a pity it wasn't tracked in the film somewhere.

Back to Forever Young and I hope the alternate tracks include more takes of Joel Peskin's fabulous soprano sax rendition of the love theme!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2011 - 7:21 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

... MV had said he stopped using the term "complete" since the nitpickers always find something they feel is missing to stir up some stink ...

confused Sorry but it does not make sense. How can I "feel" that something is missing when the score is objectively complete? Some example, please?



Sorry, I don't recall exactly which case MV was referring to, maybe it was over Batman . In that case someone was going on about cues they insisted had been recorded but not included on the set since umm.... they'd read about it in a book... yeah...

But basically MV got tired of it and changed his wording. Someone can probably find the actual thread about it

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2011 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

I'll order both although the wife will throttle me!

So I figure if we're getting expanded Sleeping and Forever, then my fave Goldsmith score - in deed, fave score of all time, The Russia House (gorgeous film also) will receive an expanded treatment also.

Peeps and Goldsmith himself said the original album was too long, I say nay and thrice nay


Speak for yourself. That's all I have to say.

 
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