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 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Pauls19344   (Member)

Congrats to all involved! We've been trying to get the word out about the greatness of this score and the idea of pulling the rear channel info for two years now via The Rosita Beach Podcast (www.scrabo.com) I hope we at least got a mention in the liner notes...!
This will be big!

Paul

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   shadowman   (Member)

This will make sextuple dipping for me.
#1. LP (mono)
#2. LP (stereo)
#3. CD (unmentionable)
#4. CD (Ryko)
#5 CD (Kritzerland)
#6. CD (LaLa)

I am, and dutifully remain, your humble slave.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Ray, could you perhaps tell us how La La Land's release will differ from this release by Kritzerland:

Since it's a two-disc release, I'd say quite a bit. smile (No offence to Bruce Kimmel, but I'm glad I never got the Kritzerland one now.)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 11:49 AM   
 By:   Pauls19344   (Member)

The earlier work of the Jack Davis long version artwork is in our archives. I'll try to post a photo soon.
In the original version of the artwork, the caracatures are more 'cartoony', similiar to the other Jack Davis MW artwork. There are a few indications of 'exacto-knife' pasting covering over some faces with newer versions, but most, like Winters, Silvers are different.

Paul
www.scrabo.com

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

OK, I will get this as I love this score so much but it's THIRD time I pay for it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   JayGatsby   (Member)

The earlier work of the Jack Davis long version artwork is in our archives. I'll try to post a photo soon.

That would be fantastic! I already knew of Davis from his work on Mad Magazine during the time, and I had his Get Smart poster, too, so I knew it was him. But I was never sure of why there were two parts to the artwork. I always figured the upper portion was created before he had definitive knowledge of the cast or footage.

I'm dying to see it, thank you!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Pete Apruzzese   (Member)

The earlier work of the Jack Davis long version artwork is in our archives. I'll try to post a photo soon.

That would be fantastic! I already knew of Davis from his work on Mad Magazine during the time, and I had his Get Smart poster, too, so I knew it was him. But I was never sure of why there were two parts to the artwork. I always figured the upper portion was created before he had definitive knowledge of the cast or footage.

I'm dying to see it, thank you!



Paul has some very cool items in the collection - he was kind enough to display them at a theatrical showing of the film I presented a couple of years ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Ray, could you perhaps tell us how La La Land's release will differ from this release by Kritzerland:

http://www.kritzerland.com/mad.htm



Does the "LP disc" feature dialogue?


The original vinyl LP did not contain dialogue. Ryko re-pressed the LP onto CD with dialogue interspersed between music tracks. (Thanks Ray)

The Kritzerland pressing is from the master tapes used for the album, which was a re-recording of the score specifically made for the album. The Ryko dialogue tracks were not included on this CD. Bonus film cues include sound effects from the movie soundtracks.

The LLL discs are from the original six-track composite soundtrack, so this music is not the re-recording, but the cues as they are heard in the film, sans sound effects.

Someone has probably done an analysis of the film cues vs. the album cues and can explain the differences (arrangements, instrumentation). I imagine it's a bit like the album version of The Great Escape, for example, versus the final Intrada release using the film tracks.


Um, no. Let's spell it out: As stated, the Kritzerland pressing is from the master tapes used for the album - whether LLL used our disc for theirs or went back to the original tapes is unknown to me, although I still had the tapes when they began their journey, so who knows. Our bonus tracks were made the same way as the LLL bonus tracks, from the laserdisc, however we used only bonus cues that were clean, in stereo, and which had great sound. That is the story of the Kritzerland CD.

The LLL disc is not from the original six-track composite soundtrack (at least the implication in your post is that it is - there are no music-only elements on this film - I know this because I went directly to the man who knows such things intimately) - the LLL disc is from the rear channels of the laser disc.

We were offered this same thing by RF and that's all I'm going to say. Nice surprise release date, though, eh? smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 12:30 PM   
 By:   On the Score   (Member)

At the least it will be wonderful to get this MAD WORLD cd with the best sound possible for the sources used, incisive, and bountiful liner notes, and excellent, impressive packaging smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   JayGatsby   (Member)

The LLL disc is not from the original six-track composite soundtrack (at least the implication in your post is that it is - there are no music-only elements on this film - I know this because I went directly to the man who knows such things intimately) - the LLL disc is from the rear channels of the laser disc.

My statement was a paraphrase from LLL's original post:

So, we’ve taken an extreme step and used the limited range rear recording angles from the original six-track composite soundtrack. This presented us with both positive and negative aspects of the materials. The positive was that, for the most part, the tracks were music-only.

If there's an issue with this, it needs to be brought up with them. Ray did not correct me on that particular matter, as he had with a couple of other points.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

The LLL disc is not from the original six-track composite soundtrack (at least the implication in your post is that it is - there are no music-only elements on this film - I know this because I went directly to the man who knows such things intimately) - the LLL disc is from the rear channels of the laser disc.

My statement was a paraphrase from LLL's original post:

So, we’ve taken an extreme step and used the limited range rear recording angles from the original six-track composite soundtrack. This presented us with both positive and negative aspects of the materials. The positive was that, for the most part, the tracks were music-only.

If there's an issue with this, it needs to be brought up with them. Ray did not correct me on that particular matter, as he had with a couple of other points.


I have no issue with anything - I'm just telling you what was used. You could, of course, call the laserdisc's sound the original six-track composite soundtrack as that's what the laserdisc used. I'm just trying to clarify that no tape was used for this, only the laserdisc. And that's fine.

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

To clarify:

The audio used originated with the six-channel composite soundtrack. It was accessed from the rear-surround channels of the DVD mix (not a laser disc).

Mr. Haines did, in fact, hear an audition version of the original soundtrack. It is not the same production as will be released by La La Land on the 15th.

I have produced nearly 50 vintage soundtrack albums, most of them - I am happy to say - are for scores of which I am personally very, very fond. MAD WORLD is one of the earliest scores with which I became familiar and I am thrilled to have been able to produce this comprehensive soundtrack. Moreover, I am very grateful to the folks at La La Land for supporting the release of this production. Were someone else to have produced what I have created - and were I to purchase it - I would be a very, very happy camper.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 1:09 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

To clarify:

The audio used originated with the six-channel composite soundtrack. It was accessed from the rear-surround channels of the DVD mix (not a laser disc).

Mr. Haines did, in fact, hear an audition version of the original soundtrack. It is not the same production as will be released by La La Land on the 15th.

I have produced nearly 50 vintage soundtrack albums, most of them - I am happy to say - are for scores of which I am personally very, very fond. MAD WORLD is one of the earliest scores with which I became familiar and I am thrilled to have been able to produce this comprehensive soundtrack. Moreover, I am very grateful to the folks at La La Land for supporting the release of this production. Were someone else to have produced what I have created - and were I to purchase it - I would be a very, very happy camper.


Ah, the DVD. I'm sure there will be many very happy campers and I'm sure I will be one of them smile My intention was only to clarify some mistaken information about our release, and what this new one was actually accessed from. I'm sure the result will be up to your usual excellent standards.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 1:22 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

There IS a difference between the sound on the laserdisc and the DVD. The DVD was mastered in 5.1 Dolby Digital sound, while the laserdisc used a matrixed 2.0 Dolby Surround format (also digital). Whether this difference in the surround information helped facilitate or make better the resultant CD sound, I cannot say.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   Pauls19344   (Member)

A few years ago, we were able to get Ernest Gold's notes on the score, including the original track names, including one called "Swartz Sways 2", which told us that Madeline Rhue's second wiggle (shown in the older Special Edition LD) was originaly scored(!). Also, it appeared that "Instant Chase" may have partialy played over different footage of Berle & Thomas. Ray, did you use the Gold titles for the tracks? Some are pretty wacky.
Paul

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 3:19 PM   
 By:   infernal_runner   (Member)

I guess this title will be delayed to the 1st of April.

There are so many gems out there which are waiting for an offiial release.
Why do we need to get this score twice within a year?
(FYI: I love this score and an my pinion it is well representated on the KRITZERLAND disc.
http://www.kritzerland.com/mad.htm)

I hope we don't get on the next release:

PREDATOR - 3 disc set
Music by Alan Silvestri

Disc one features the complete score as released by VS
Disc two features the complete score as released by INTRADA
Disc three features all the rest which we found from several other sources during the reasearch of this score and which is definitely....

Bullseye!
(or was it bullshit - Sorry but I don't remember)

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

An epic comedy score for an epic comedy. Awesome. Thanks MV.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

It's all pretty simple really: For those of you who feel cheated that another edition of this score will be released, express your displeasure by not purchasing it. There are others who are delighted that the original elements have been found. It's an Oscar nomnated score/song and one of Ernest gold's best works.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 5:40 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

I'm thrilled. Thank you for putting so much painstaking work into make this a reality. Kritzerland's release was the best there was at the time and I have no regrets. Now I'll get the real deal and be even happier.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2011 - 5:45 PM   
 By:   Marko   (Member)



Thank you to MV Gerhard and the gang at LaLaLand and to Mr. Faiola & Chelsea Rialto Studios for this wonderful release and what appears to an extensive restoration.

This is one of my favorite scores and movies and I'm glad there is now a chance to have the original film score.

I will gladly purchase this for a third time.

 
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