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 Posted:   Nov 1, 2013 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   PhiladelphiaSon   (Member)

See!

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

I just wanted to mention to PhiladelphiaSon that I continue going back to that SoundCloud site where you found:

https://soundcloud.com/johnm_001/01-main-title

and have added several pieces there myself. A couple of days ago I read a discussion here about what people thought were the best "love themes" by Jerry Goldsmith (the writer felt the one from "The Wind And The Lion" was way up there, when I could think of 10 or more I thought were even better). Later that day I was playing my SACD in which Goldsmith arranged medleys of some of his more memorable scores, with one beginning with the gorgeous music from "The Sand Pebbles" (turned into the song "And We Were Lovers"), and I almost posted it here, but thought it was too long (18.21).

Anyway, would still LOVE to find Pino Donaggio's "The Fan"!!!

Note: I didn't mean to post on 2 different Donaggio "Fan" sites today, but found I had chosen the wrong one later when I stumbled across the right one. Sorry.

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 1:41 PM   
 By:   David Kessler   (Member)


Anyway, would still LOVE to find Pino Donaggio's "The Fan"!!!


how hard can it be wink 21 glorious tracks atleast that needs an official release smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   eda-88   (Member)

I like Donaggio but he is one of composers who wrote giant mass of (good quality) scores, as Morricone or Delerue he is very prolific, still......

yes, we all love his stuff and regularly we see on CD his expanded or totally unreleased OSTs.
Latest are PATRICK, PASSION, CRAWLSPACE, LA BUCA, OMAGGIO A DONAGGIO (Tribute to his - cover), COSI FAN TUTTE (BEAT RECORDS), TOURIST TRAP and others...

However he wrote some excellent beautiful works - which non-existing in any form, for example i'm enough of LP for L'Attenzione, 2 Evil Eyes, Caso Moro, Hotel Colonial... or his soundtracks in mp3 form (Sotto il Vestito Niente 2, Valeria Il Medico,...). We should thank someone for them - because some treasures TOTALLY UNRELEASED.

I don't mention abotu THE FAN or THE BLACK CAT (by the way - Claudio Fuiano have said "But although I have the score here on CDR, Pino does not like the audio quality of the recording for a CD release.")

TRASGREDIRE or NON CI RESTA CHE PIANGERE - we have at least 1 track on compilation.

Anyway you have THE FAN or BLACK CAT on bootleg, better than nothing, when some other gem - have nothing.

SOTTO IL VESTITO NIENTE (NOTHING UNDERNEATH)
UN SUSSURRO NEL BUIO (WHISPER IN THE DARK)
RACKET
UN CASO DI COSCIENZA
ROSSELLA
AMANTI E SEGRETI
LA TRAPPOLA
LA TASSISTA
PREFETTO DI FERRO (CESARE MORRI)
LA DONNA CHE RITORNA
DOVE LA TROVI UNA COME ME
LO ZIO D'AMERICA
RIVOGLIO I MIEI FIGLI
TESORO DI DAMASCO
GIOCHI DI SPECCHI
LA PARTITA CON LA MORTE
BEOYOND EVIL
......................

You knwo how much TV-scores still unreleased?????...... A lot of... RAI TRADE should have them released, but they have done only SISI, L'UOMO CHE CAVALCAVA, LA BUCA (QR).

Well.........

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Filmscoremonty   (Member)

With the recent passing of Robert Stigwood, I am put in mind of the wonderful Pino Donaggio score that we have his production of THE FAN to thank for.

I was recently reading of the troubled production history of the film. Initially put together in the late 70's by Mr Stigwood, Filmways (credited as a production company) was to be the distributor, but backed out at the last minute. Paramount then stepped in and provided distribution. Although it was filmed well beforehand - including re-shoots of the ending that took place months after principal photography had concluded - the film drew unfavourable comparisons in the media to the December 1980 death of John Lennon. This eventually impacted its promotion, release and reception. This troubled production history may provide some insight into the potentially complicated issues relating to rights to the film and/or related elements.

I recall reading in a 1981 issue of CinemaScore magazine that featured a cover story on Pino Donaggio and which listed THE FAN as having a "US LP Planned" in the discography section of that article. I have always wondered if this was intended as a release by Varese Sarabande (as they had already released Tourist Trap, Dressed to Kill, Home Movies, Piranha and The Howling). However the poor box office performance of the film and the fact that the score was, I believe, recorded in the USA, may have meant re-use fees precluded a release at the time. Alternatively, perhaps Mr Stigwood's own RSO label had intended to release the soundtrack - as Mr Stigwood had been the force behind releases of a number of LP's for films he had produced?

In keeping with our own Ron Hardcastle's enthusiasm for the score and film, it would be wonderful to hear the fruits of, what has been termed, a "complicated release".

 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2017 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


This one was on all the labels' want lists at Paramount. The problem is that Stigwood's production company retained the soundtrack album rights. I found the bank in NY that is supposedly repping Stigwood's various interests in recent years and called them to get a contact person. Even that was like pulling teeth. I passed the info on to at least one of the labels that was interested. Predictably, their CD release proposals were met with no response whatsoever, not even an acknowledgment—they just went into a black hole. So unless the Stigwood estate ends up being acquired or managed by somebody reasonable, this one is going to stay a "wish." Sorry I don't have better news.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2017 - 12:10 AM   
 By:   Filmscoremonty   (Member)

Thanks for the info (and efforts) Lukas smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2017 - 12:50 PM   
 By:   Filmscoremonty   (Member)

The problem is that Stigwood's production company retained the soundtrack album rights.

Clutching at straws here ... I take it that the holding of the rights in this instance is quite different from the album rights that the RSO label held for the titles that they released LP's for?

The reason I ask is that the Wikipedia page for the RSO label indicates that the RSO label was absorbed into Polygram in 1981, with all previous RSO releases later being re-released under the Polydor label. (Subsequently the Empire and Jedi Star Wars albums passed through several hands.) This appears to be how Intrada was able to license the existing SHOGUN album from UMG for example.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   TruPretender   (Member)

I've never seen the film though I admire Donaggio enough to buy the score film-unseen, as I have with many of his scores. He was my first favorite. "Carrie" did it for me - then Dressed to Kill - then Blow Out (though that never surfaced on CD until much later).

"The Fan" by all accounts would be such a dandy choice for Intrada...add to that his score to "Tex". "Tex" employees a romantic harmonica with Donaggio's usual strings to bring us a lush, backyard feeling kind of score...and it's so beautiful. There isn't much of a score to the film if I remember correctly but if you view the film, the Donaggio touch is there.

I'm curious about something someone posted earlier - why are the labels cautious of Donaggio releases?!?!? He's done some of the best music in the 70s and early 80s? I'm shocked!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Too many notes I suppose wink

I'd also prefer Kritzerland or LaLa Land to handle this release, based on Intrada's last sounding Donaggio release.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

"Donaggio doesn't sell" , I believe, came from LLL'S double whammy of Seed of Chucky & The Howling underperforming.
I hope this Fan business works out - it's primo Pino from his best period. One of those scores that's got it all, action, suspense, dual love themes, super poignant ending. Even a gawd awful un-Pino source song 'Hearts not diamonds'. My wife & I still mock Bacall's husky atrocious vocal from the film & always laugh.

It would be a great listen, I'm encouraged it's at least on labels radar.

-Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I think Bruce K also bemoaned the low turnouts for his less famous Pino D releases like Berlin Affair and Ordeal by Innocence.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

And 1000 of PASSION & PATRICK are still around....just kills me, PD was one of the guys that fostered my love of music in the first place. His scores are always terrific, usually a character in the film & not just background, and cover quite a bit of ground. I never got why he isn't more popular in these parts....

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2017 - 1:07 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

The problem is that Stigwood's production company retained the soundtrack album rights.

Clutching at straws here ... I take it that the holding of the rights in this instance is quite different from the album rights that the RSO label held for the titles that they released LP's for?

The reason I ask is that the Wikipedia page for the RSO label indicates that the RSO label was absorbed into Polygram in 1981, with all previous RSO releases later being re-released under the Polydor label. (Subsequently the Empire and Jedi Star Wars albums passed through several hands.) This appears to be how Intrada was able to license the existing SHOGUN album from UMG for example.


As far as we could tell, the rights situation with The Fan is independent of Stigwood's RSO label.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 7, 2017 - 1:52 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

If this does ever come to CD fruition, I'd really love this Drew Struzan concept art to adorn the cover.

http://www.drewstruzan.com/illustrated/portfolio/?fa=medium&gid=927&ad&gallerystart=1&pagestart=1&type=ad&gs=1

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2017 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Filmscoremonty   (Member)

If this does ever come to CD fruition, I'd really love this Drew Struzan concept art to adorn the cover.

Great find Kev! smile I love discovering previously unknown artwork like this.

How did you locate it? I've scoured Drew's site before and never seen this. Even now when I search the illustrated portfolio pages this one doesn't show.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2017 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

It's on his site, under 'advertising', 3rd column down, in the middle (you'd never know it was THE FAN until you click on the pic of Bacall).

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2017 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Filmscoremonty   (Member)

Left-Clicking on the image takes you to another treatment where the film appears to be treated as a light-hearted romp, if you ignore Michael Biehn dicing up Bacall's maid which is discreetly placed at the bottom.


http://www.drewstruzan.com/illustrated/portfolio/?fa=large&gid=927&ad&gallerystart=1&pagestart=1&type=ad&gs=1


 
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