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 Posted:   Jul 16, 2010 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I read here the fact that there is virtually almost nothing by Billy Goldenberg available. So, based on that, I did a Billy Goldenberg - a really good Billy Goldenberg - Busting. Eventually we did sort of okay with it but it's taken a VERY long time for us and it's finally down to a fairly low number of copies. But where are all those people who needed to have some Goldenberg?
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Bruce, does this mean that for your 1000 copy releases to be successful they need to sell out in a short space of time?.

'Busting' came out a few months ago and you seem luke warm at best about it's market performance despite being down to a 'fairly low number of copies'

With so many new releases recently plus the economic situation around the world, instant sellouts seem rarer now.
Pete

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2010 - 11:34 PM   
 By:   Fifloe   (Member)

Furthermore, another "fan" favorite, the oft-requested and begged for Amazing Stories - three volumes of great scores by great composers on Intrada - ask them how many they're sitting on. I don't ever trust these "fan" favorites because the "fans" usually end up being a few hundred people, and that is not enough to justify the expense of doing these things.

How often have I read here the fact that there is virtually almost nothing by Billy Goldenberg available. So, based on that, I did a Billy Goldenberg - a really good Billy Goldenberg - Busting. Eventually we did sort of okay with it but it's taken a VERY long time for us and it's finally down to a fairly low number of copies. But where are all those people who needed to have some Goldenberg?


Bruce certainly I' m not an expert like you, but I think especially COLUMBO and DUELL would sell much better because of their "fan favorite status". In this case I think so because of another Columbo-composer: Gil Melle. His ANDROMEDA STRAIN (limited to 1500) even only with about 27 minutes long was released a few months ago and now is Intrada sold out. OK, it is still available at SAE but Intrada sold all of their 1500 CDs.

BTW, I' m one of these people who don' t post very much here - but I ordered your Goldenberg/Kritzerland CD and definitely I would also order other Goldenberg CDs...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2010 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   Graham S. Watt   (Member)

Thanks for the answer to my question about the "rights" issue (by the way, I'm positive that all those themes on the TVT CD Vol 5 are indeed the original recordings).

I've read this before, that it's frustrating to calculate what a good seller will be. I think it's great that labels like FSM jump in occasionally with things like EYE OF THE DEVIL (which sold 50 copies), and of course I appreciate the release of BUSTING very much (although I haven't bought it yet. See? I'm one of the culprits).

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2010 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Okay Ed, who's conducting in that b&w photo?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2010 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Ed Nassour   (Member)

Okay Ed, who's conducting in that b&w photo?

 
 Posted:   Jul 27, 2010 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Gotcha!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 28, 2010 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

How often have I read here the fact that there is virtually almost nothing by Billy Goldenberg available. So, based on that, I did a Billy Goldenberg - a really good Billy Goldenberg - Busting. Eventually we did sort of okay with it but it's taken a VERY long time for us and it's finally down to a fairly low number of copies. But where are all those people who needed to have some Goldenberg?

I supported Goldenberg and your label by purchasing BUSTING, but it's not a favorite and won't get too many repeat plays. I think title choice has a lot to do with it. I gotta believe that COLUMBO or DUEL or HELTER SKELTER (not Universal) would sell well.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   skewiff   (Member)

I was rewatching Columbo "Ransom for a Dead Man" and was reminded of this thread, the music is so wonderful, by Billy Goldenberg I believe, I agree it would be great if a cd could be released of Columbo series music, especially the early 70s series, I guess there's not enough interested though frown

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)

I was rewatching Columbo "Ransom for a Dead Man" and was reminded of this thread, the music is so wonderful, by Billy Goldenberg I believe, I agree it would be great if a cd could be released of Columbo series music, especially the early 70s series, I guess there's not enough interested though frown

Oh, yeah, "Ransom for a Dead Man" features a great score. I agree!
But I don't agree, that there's not enough people out there who'd buy a Columbo score CD. Every once in a while someone here on the board features a Columbo score in his "holy grail" lists.

I thinks it's just a matter of time before we'll get it!!! smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)

Over at IMDb I found this interesting text in the trivia section:

Although Billy Goldenberg scored the opening Columbo stories in 1971, his commercially released "Columbo Theme" recorded as such by Norrie Paramor and His Orchestra (Law Beat album, Contour Records 2870 369) did not become a regular feature of the show. The theme is first heard during the helicopter sequence of pilot "Ransom for a Dead Man" but Goldenberg did not use it as a title theme and composed mainly fresh music for "Murder by the Book" and all his subsequent scores. The Columbo show never had any recognizable theme tune of its own.

Does anybody know anything about this "Law Beat album, Contour Records 2870 369"?


EDIT: I found this and it apparently features a track from COLUMBO

http://www.norrortvinyl.com/bilder/IMGP6368.jpg

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   DarthBrett   (Member)

I have to say I would absolutely love to see any music from Columbo released, as it is still one of my all-time fave shows. I really think the music from the 5th regular episode ("Lady in Waiting" - the one with Leslie Nielsen and Susan Clark) might be my personal favorite.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2011 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

I was rewatching Columbo "Ransom for a Dead Man" and was reminded of this thread, the music is so wonderful, by Billy Goldenberg I believe, I agree it would be great if a cd could be released of Columbo series music, especially the early 70s series, I guess there's not enough interested though frown

Yes, that is my favorite Columbo score too . It's not so much that I can remember the theme (the notes themselves) as I remember the mood it evoked. Just magnificent composing by Billy Goldenberg.

A Columbo soundtrack has been one of my grails for a number of years, or at least ever since I purchased the DVDs and had the time to really notice how good the scores were. Especially those of Goldenberg and Melle.

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2011 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

How often have I read here the fact that there is virtually almost nothing by Billy Goldenberg available. So, based on that, I did a Billy Goldenberg - a really good Billy Goldenberg - Busting. Eventually we did sort of okay with it but it's taken a VERY long time for us and it's finally down to a fairly low number of copies. But where are all those people who needed to have some Goldenberg?

I supported Goldenberg and your label by purchasing BUSTING, but it's not a favorite and won't get too many repeat plays. I think title choice has a lot to do with it. I gotta believe that COLUMBO or DUEL or HELTER SKELTER (not Universal) would sell well.


I also bought BUSTING, as an article of faith, hoping that it would sell well enough to persuade one of our labels to go forward with some Goldenberg tv stuff. Not much of the quirky, spooky, suspenseful Goldenberg of COLUMBO to be found in BUSTING, alas, which may account for its tepid reception. It has not lessened my enthusiasm one iota for those tv scores, however.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2011 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


Does anybody know anything about this "Law Beat album, Contour Records 2870 369"?


EDIT: I found this and it apparently features a track from COLUMBO

http://www.norrortvinyl.com/bilder/IMGP6368.jpg



It's an old vinyl album released in England, long out of print.

The 'Columbo theme' has been on various albums covered by various artists - certainly here in the UK; John Gregory for instance also did a jazzy big band version.

I think this is the tune that Jon Burlingame (in his book TV's Greatest Hits) says was chosen when Universal received requests for a 'Columbo theme' from both listeners and recording artists. Burlingame says that music executives "chose a jazzy 6/4 tune that Goldenberg had written as Columbo's introduction in 'Ransom for a Dead Man' and published it as the 'Columbo theme' (even though Gil Mellé had written his own signature motif and used it in four first-season mysteries)"

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2011 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

I'd like to declare myself as someone else with the Columbo scores on my holy grail list (and if I could have just one it would be Murder By The Book by Billy Goldenberg). I can't see how they couldn't sell well. Comparing Busting to Columbo (or Duel) is futile as Busting is very much an obscure title that people weren't familiar with, which is obviously not the case with Columbo.

N.p. Novecento (Morricone)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2011 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   quiller007   (Member)

Comparing Busting to Columbo (or Duel) is futile as Busting is very much an obscure title that people weren't familiar with, which is obviously not the case with Columbo.


Nor was the music (from BUSTING) anywhere near the same neighborhood
as Goldenberg's music for COLUMBO.

Den

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2011 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   davel   (Member)

I would definitely buy a Columbo scores set, especially Season One. Yavar's 2 CD set looks great to me.

By the way, I don't know about the U.S stores but here in Canada the Best Buy stores have Columbo DVDs, Season One through Five, on sale for $14.99 each.

Cheers.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2011 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   skewiff   (Member)

Oh, yeah, "Ransom for a Dead Man" features a great score. I agree!
But I don't agree, that there's not enough people out there who'd buy a Columbo score CD. Every once in a while someone here on the board features a Columbo score in his "holy grail" lists.

I thinks it's just a matter of time before we'll get it!!! smile




Yes I sincerely hope it happens one day soon rather than later. 43 years this year since the first pilot was aired, a soundtrack releaes is looong overdue. Come on Universal ! Or whoever is in charge of this (!).

Anyway, found this music clip from Ransom for a Dead Man on Youtube, enjoy everybody...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSv1wUbQ0dw

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2011 - 2:38 AM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)


Does anybody know anything about this "Law Beat album, Contour Records 2870 369"?


EDIT: I found this and it apparently features a track from COLUMBO

http://www.norrortvinyl.com/bilder/IMGP6368.jpg



It's an old vinyl album released in England, long out of print.

The 'Columbo theme' has been on various albums covered by various artists - certainly here in the UK; John Gregory for instance also did a jazzy big band version.

I think this is the tune that Jon Burlingame (in his book TV's Greatest Hits) says was chosen when Universal received requests for a 'Columbo theme' from both listeners and recording artists. Burlingame says that music executives "chose a jazzy 6/4 tune that Goldenberg had written as Columbo's introduction in 'Ransom for a Dead Man' and published it as the 'Columbo theme' (even though Gil Mellé had written his own signature motif and used it in four first-season mysteries)"





Thanks for the info!!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2011 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   Bernd   (Member)

I'd like to declare myself as someone else with the Columbo scores on my holy grail list (and if I could have just one it would be Murder By The Book by Billy Goldenberg). I can't see how they couldn't sell well. Comparing Busting to Columbo (or Duel) is futile as Busting is very much an obscure title that people weren't familiar with, which is obviously not the case with Columbo.

N.p. Novecento (Morricone)



Someone posted a bit from "Murder by the Book" on YouTube. Here you go:

 
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