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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Marathon Man/The Parallax View
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

Not to be a downer, but out of curiosity, is there a reason why the sound on the MARATHON MAN samples sound so terrible?

Were the tapes in bad shape or what?

James


The low-bit rate mp3s I make for the samples add a lot of artifacts.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Very interesting to note how Lukas decided to pit this CD against such megastar products like ID4 and Poseidon Adventure. "Is it safe?" They'll see, I suppose. Personally -- and this isn't a strong business mind, to say the least -- but it seems it could have hurt sales on a day like today -- or was it rushed to beat the empty wallets later in the week?

I ordered it, too!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Not to be a downer, but out of curiosity, is there a reason why the sound on the MARATHON MAN samples sound so terrible?

Were the tapes in bad shape or what?

James


The low-bit rate mp3s I make for the samples add a lot of artifacts.

Neil


Thanks for the info Neil. I appreciate the reply.

James

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

Not to be a downer, but out of curiosity, is there a reason why the sound on the MARATHON MAN samples sound so terrible?

Were the tapes in bad shape or what?

James


The low-bit rate mp3s I make for the samples add a lot of artifacts.

Neil


Thanks for the info Neil. I appreciate the reply.

James


Sure! I'm listening to the album now. It sounds much better than the samples.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   jkheiser   (Member)

The low-bit rate mp3s I make for the samples add a lot of artifacts.

Neil


Since audio samples are truncated (never the full track) I'm puzzled why they're always encoded at inferior bit rates. Some of us evaluate our purchases by the quality of the audio, which is terribly obscured by a 75kbps MP3.

Compare this to an ice cream shop that offers free samples. Portions are tiny, no more than the size of a teaspoon, but they're never dipped in mustard and covered with belly button lint.

Of course, movie soundtracks are not ice cream. I'm sure there are unfortunate rules for samples that studios insist labels follow. Can you provide some insight here, Neil?

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

The low-bit rate mp3s I make for the samples add a lot of artifacts.

Neil


Since audio samples are truncated (never the full track) I'm puzzled why they're always encoded at inferior bit rates. Some of us evaluate our purchases by the quality of the audio, which is terribly obscured by a 75kbps MP3.

Compare this to an ice cream shop that offers free samples. Portions are tiny, no more than the size of a teaspoon, but they're never dipped in mustard and covered with belly button lint.

Of course, movie soundtracks are not ice cream. I'm sure there are unfortunate rules for samples that studios insist labels follow. Can you provide some insight here, Neil?


They download faster.

Neil

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

It is sitting in my cart at SAE, I just need to figure out what to order with it. Shall I go for humor with a Vic Mizzy cd like The Ghost and Mr. Chicken or shall I pair it with Klute/All The President's Men which makes sense, or shall I go with a classic like High Noon .....choices choices....

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Very interesting to note how Lukas decided to pit this CD against such megastar products like ID4 and Poseidon Adventure. "Is it safe?" They'll see, I suppose. Personally -- and this isn't a strong business mind, to say the least -- but it seems it could have hurt sales on a day like today -- or was it rushed to beat the empty wallets later in the week?

I ordered it, too!


I had nothing to do with the scheduling. It showed up when it showed up!
Lukas

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   jkheiser   (Member)

They download faster.

Neil


I think we can all agree the days of dial-up internet access are well behind us. If FSM is free from studio interference here, might I respectfully suggest that future samples be encoded at a higher bitrate, say 160kbps? It would be a nice complement to your recent increase in album artwork size.

At any (bit) rate, thanks for the reply, Neil.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

It is sitting in my cart at SAE, I just need to figure out what to order with it. Shall I go for humor with a Vic Mizzy cd like The Ghost and Mr. Chicken or shall I pair it with Klute/All The President's Men which makes sense, or shall I go with a classic like High Noon .....choices choices....

Get KLUTE wink

Have had the Same Dilemma,but just Solved it Decided to add Morricone's NIGHT TRAIN MURDERERS and De Angelis Brothers TORSO

Good Times Ahead big grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

YAY!!! I just love it when I don't even have to think about whether or not to get a CD. I couldn't get to SAE fast enough to click the ole order button. Can't wait to hear Parallax. A thousand thanks, FSM!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 4:15 PM   
 By:   Bromhead   (Member)

Additional music on cd but not in movie.

Just watched movie again the following tracks are not used in movie......

ELSA'S INTRIGUE
DOC DIES
BATHROOM TERROR
TOO CLOSE/ESSEN

Every note in the movie is on the cd inc 50 seconds more on SCYLLA STABBED.......

Awsome..............................

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

YAY!!! I just love it when I don't even have to think about whether or not to get a CD. I couldn't get to SAE fast enough to click the ole order button. Can't wait to hear Parallax. A thousand thanks, FSM!

That's the same thing I was thinking. Sometimes I'm asking myself... Should I spend that money? Marathon Man? Who the hell in their right mind would give that a second thought?

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

Additional music on cd but not in movie.

Just watched movie again the following tracks are not used in movie......

ELSA'S INTRIGUE
DOC DIES
BATHROOM TERROR
TOO CLOSE/ESSEN

Every note in the movie is on the cd inc 50 seconds more on SCYLLA STABBED.......

Awsome..............................


"Drilling Horror" isn't used either. There might be more, I just don't remember.

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Doctor Plesman   (Member)

Finally! It really has happened!

We all saw it coming since SAE's promising and not so dubious facebook entry two weeks ago...

Two very long weeks, I must admit. Can't remember an occasion when I checked the FSM homepage for so many times just to see the appearance of this announcement... at least twenty times a day, I think ;-)

So there it is, the release of the year. Fantastic! Planning to re-watch THE PARALLAX VIEW for the first time in twenty-five years to get into the groove for the album. MARATHON MAN I believed to know inside out, but luckily, that's not true... lots of unreleased stuff there.

A MASSIVE big thanks to FSM for another "holy grail" unearthed. Not many more left for me, I'm afraid.

Lukas, if I someday would meet you in person, you'll have at least five drinks on me: one for PELHAM, one for THE OMEGA MAN, one for WAIT UNTIL DARK, one for BULLITT and one for MARATHON MAN.

You outdid yourself again.

Thank you!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 4:51 PM   
 By:   Suicide is imminent   (Member)

If the booklet doesn't contain a picture of a gremlin dressed up as a dentist I'm gonna be severely disappointed.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

I think we can all agree the days of dial-up internet access are well behind us...

No, we can't all agree. Because I am using a dial-up connection. A high speed connection isn't available where I live.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I think we can all agree the days of dial-up internet access are well behind us...

No, we can't all agree. Because I am using a dial-up connection. A high speed connection isn't available where I live.


"Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them if you did
All this science I don't understand
It's just my job five days a week
A rocket man, a rocket man

And I think it's gonna be a long, long time "

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


It takes an enormous amount of work for us to give sound clips for every track (not just selected tracks). We also offer twice the length of the typical sound clip (60 vs. 30 sec). The resolution is low(er) because that's what the studios asked for and it saves on file size. I hope people actually buy the CDs so they're not living with the low-res sound clips?

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2010 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   w-dervish   (Member)

I think we can all agree the days of dial-up internet access are well behind us...

No, we can't all agree. Because I am using a dial-up connection. A high speed connection isn't available where I live.


Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids...


No, I don't live on Mars. The cable high speed, when asked if they would extend their line down to where I live (approximately 2 miles), said no. The satellite TV provider, when asked if they offered high speed via satellite, said no. There is no other way I could get high speed that I am aware of. So I am stuck with dial-up for now.

 
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