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 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 9:44 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Call it whatever turns yer crank, Frank.
Bronzing, oxidizing, rotting...

I've got a few. And PDO is the culprit the most often.

 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 2:08 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

Disc 3 of this set from Silva has never played on any of my CD or DVD players since the day I bought it. It just registers as 'disc unreadable'. The only place it has ever worked is the laptop. Could never figure out why. I never bothered getting it replaced.

 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

I've been buying CD's since 1984 & none of them have gone bad. I come from the LP age, so I always handle them very carefully. I know people who never put them back in the case, leave them lying around on the floor, oh dear. I have a few CD's where some tracks have always skipped, but funnily enough rip OK, & some discs have always played fine, but just won't rip. I bought a CD in a Charity shop & when I got it home & looked at it, & have never seen a disc so bad, it's like someone had rubbed it down with sandpaper & it had been scribbled on with a magic marker. I through it in the bin, then on second thoughts tried ripping it into my computer...& it ripped fine!

Nothing lasts for ever (esp. digital), as long as I outlive them, then that's fine. Anyone see that documentury about digital film making "Side By Side"? They don't have a foolproof way of storing digital stuff yet. So in years to come, all those digital photos, & movies shot on HD might not be around. And who knows, maybe in twenty years time you might have a hard job finding a CD player.

Sorry to go off subject, nothing about oxidation in this post smile

 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   samlowry   (Member)

I've had a few pressed cd's producing playback problems, but I've had TOO MANY CD-R's that have gone bad. CD-R's are really not meant to last compared to pressed cd's.

That's why I recommend anyone buying these Amazon made-to-order soundtracks to immediately make a lossless rip or after a couple of years, duplicate onto a new disc.

 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 1:35 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I've not yet had a CD or DvD give me a nasty surprise. The real story is it is absolutely amazing that any of this shit actually works!

And reliably so. The question is what is the MTBF of CDs and DvDs in absolute real terms. I recently had a big problem with this computer system. It wasn't the hard drive failing or anything like that. It was a boot failure caused by an as yet undisclosed configuration spike. And I can tell you it caused a real headache. How could everything be restored? Well, it can't . . . at least not exactly as it was before. But it turns out I'd invested time in making a recovery disc. Now, if I'd not done that at all, then all that would have been left would have been a computer case with internal working parts but . . . no software! Bit by bit I've clawed back something of the old system, but it is not exactly as it was before. As Lynn Margolis once said of living things surviving a catastrophy - it was a classic Horizon program about Jim Lovelock and the GAIA hypothesis; "you may lose the majority, but you will never lose everything." Words of hope and of comfort wink

 Posted:   Aug 13, 2015 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Stefan Huber   (Member)

Does anybody know if PDO is still replacing the faulty disks?

After searching for years for a decently priced copy of the "Moby Dick" cantata, I've finally found one - and guess what: the disk won't play. The same thing happened to me with the "Great Epics" CD. It's truly a shame that these rare recordings have not been re-issued - let alone are only available on damaged CDs.

The same thing happened to me with the Philips re-recording of "The King And I". No big deal: I spent a few bucks and had a copy that's working...

With the Herrmann and the Cloud Nine disk, however, it's a true shame. The recordings are also unavailable for download frown

 Posted:   Aug 13, 2015 - 10:01 AM   
 By:   Merry Goldsmith   (Member)

No, PDO has stopped replacing bronzed CDs almost nine years ago.

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