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Still waiting for Conan the Destroyer here. I'm getting old, dudes! It's been here for awhile, the PROMETHEUS album is a vastly superior performance then the OST. Basil HATED that recording with a passion. Ford A. Thaxton And? A lot of people just happen to enjoy it very much and shouldnt be deprived of it just because the composer hated it. I Look forward to Intrada's eventual release (hopefully soon!)
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I'm not sure what the point of this post is. Is to say that because Basil hated the original soundtrack it shouldn't be released? Or that because he hated it we all should hate it? Personally I have no issue with it. It's not as if the orchestra hits any wrong notes in the performance. The performance nuances that drove him bananas aren't something most of us would notice because only he knows the sound he was trying to get. We only know what it is. It's still going through its endless clearance, but packaging and master is all done. As it has been for well over a year! Exactly. Plus I'd also ad: So what? Even if Basil was still alive, it doesn't matter -- we're the ones wanting it and buying it. Someone may not like McDonald's hamburgers and tells us about a place that makes better ones, but Zod help 'em, people love their McDonald's hamburgers.
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As performance issues haven't precluded a complete release of Destroyer, I hope we'll also see a complete Lonesome Dove some day... Roger, any plans to include Basil's Sword and Sorcery Spectacular score remastered with Destroyer? When BSX cancelled its inclusion last minute in their Basil Poledouris Vol. 1 release (after it has already been officially released in the contents track listing), I thought that might mean a different label had already secured the rights...here's hoping it's Intrada! Yavar
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It's Buckaroo Banzai! People have asked and it's totally unexpected! (Mostly because it's almost certainly not that.) Unlikely, but I'd buy it!
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The film Reincarnation of Peter Proud is getting a surprising 4K release in the new year....maybe usable music elements have been found. People certainly wouldn't be expecting it! Would definitely be the release of the year for this guy...and Roger. Now there's a (remote) possibility...
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I'm not sure what the point of this post is. Is to say that because Basil hated the original soundtrack it shouldn't be released? Or that because he hated it we all should hate it? ! Roger, He hated the recording, the orchestra wasn't very good, as a matter of fact that's one of the reasons that the Main Title wasn't included on the original album, as I recall they did seven or eight takes and he just gave up and hope it would be buried under the sound effects of the horses in the titles sequence. Personally I have no issue with it. It's not as if the orchestra hits any wrong notes in the performance. The performance nuances that drove him bananas aren't something most of us would notice because only he knows the sound he was trying to get. We only know what it is. It's still going through its endless clearance, but packaging and master is all done. As it has been for well over a year! Oh, so we should just ignore him on this topic? OK Ford A. Thaxton
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I don't think it's about ignoring his thoughts, but placing them in the perspective of preserving and presenting a beloved, if flawed work.
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I don't think it's about ignoring his thoughts, but placing them in the perspective of preserving and presenting a beloved, if flawed work. No, it's just ignoring him.. If that's what you wish to do, go ahead. Ford A. Thaxton
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I don't think it's about ignoring his thoughts, but placing them in the perspective of preserving and presenting a beloved, if flawed work. No, it's just ignoring him.. If that's what you wish to do, go ahead. Ford A. Thaxton We know James Horner had no love for Battle Beyond The Stars (due to the performance, which "sounded like a high school band" if I remember correctly), and yet BSX still reissued that score. Jerry Goldsmith considered releases of his scores to be like "collecting bottlecaps", with fans wanting "every bloody note". By this standard, we are ignoring James Horner's and Jerry Goldsmith's opinions by releasing these scores again. This seems like an inconsistently applied standard by everyone involved.
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We know James Horner had no love for Battle Beyond The Stars (due to the performance, which "sounded like a high school band" if I remember correctly), and yet BSX still reissued that score. FLAW IN LOGIC: In this case, this was an album that produced and assembled by Mr. Horner and released to the public in 1980, the genie was out of the bottle at that point, the same thing with HUMANOIDS FROM THE DEEP. These were works that he later in his career he wasn't as proud of. We just reissued the albums he produced in the first place. Jerry Goldsmith considered releases of his scores to be like "collecting bottlecaps", with fans wanting "every bloody note". By this standard, we are ignoring James Horner's and Jerry Goldsmith's opinions by releasing these scores again. This seems like an inconsistently applied standard by everyone involved. In the case of Mr. Goldsmith, every release i did up until his death was approved by him. If he was still with us today, I'd run everything by him, that was the promise made and I would have kept to him. Anything that I worked on past his death as far as I could tell didn't have the performance issues that DESTROYER had. Ford A. Thaxton
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dupe post. Sorry.
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Points taken. I still find the "ignoring" position off, since Roger himself has acknowledged the composer's position. Thus, it was not ignored. Perhaps dismissed or discounted would work better semantically? In any case, we unfortunately cannot ask his opinion directly, nor Goldsmith, nor Horner. As someone who appreciates these scores, and the composer's who wrote them, these recordings, even with their imperfections, are really the best way to show what they did. Even if we are not reflecting their preferences/opinions as we know them, we are respecting and honoring their contributions, IMHO. And thanks for your work Ford. You've produced some great albums.
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