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 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

It bears mentioning that MacFarlane is not the primary writer of the shows he fronts.
In fact, during the run of "Family Guy" he wrote very few of them (I'd bet a half-dozen, tops).
So the folks here who are getting their gitch in a knot because they don't like "that" brand of humor are taking aim at the wrong target.

And, anyway, this is a thread about the music, isn't it?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

It will be tomorrow. If I can find the episode tomorrow, I will comment on the pilot score. If I can get online tomorrow -- we'll see what the hurricane brings.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

Broughton scored the first episode. Top-notch work (and it's always such a joy to hear an orchestra for a network show and sadly rare).

The show itself left me pretty cold.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   ST-321   (Member)

I'm giving The Orville a tentative, mild thumbs up. It has the potential to be good or terrible, but the jury is still out on it.

I loved hearing the music though.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I thought the music in the pilot by Broughton was very good. However, I thought the show itself was very lame. For me it wasn't funny.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

According to IMDB, McNeely and John Debney are alternating episodes. It's unclear whether Broughton will be scoring more of them (although there's several that aren't credited yet).

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2017 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

It bears mentioning that MacFarlane is not the primary writer of the shows he fronts.
In fact, during the run of "Family Guy" he wrote very few of them (I'd bet a half-dozen, tops).
So the folks here who are getting their gitch in a knot because they don't like "that" brand of humor are taking aim at the wrong target.


I assure you, this is incorrect. MacFarlane created those shows and ran them. Yes, various people on the writing staffs are credited as the writers of specific episodes. They contributed, absolutely. But MacFarlane is the creative force behind them. I realize this gets confusing, because a credit on screen claims the episode is "written by" some other name or two. That credit assures payment. But the person/people with that credit may have written 90% (unlikely) or 2% of the finished product. It is the show runner (generally, the creator of the show) who is ultimately responsible for what you're seeing.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 6:31 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

According to IMDB, McNeely and John Debney are alternating episodes. It's unclear whether Broughton will be scoring more of them (although there's several that aren't credited yet).

Didn't that crazy guy already break down how many episodes were scored by each composer in this very thread?

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Broughton scored the first episode. Top-notch work (and it's always such a joy to hear an orchestra for a network show and sadly rare).

The show itself left me pretty cold.


It was so much like Star Trek, I might as well have been watching Star Trek, except I think I was supposed to be laughing,but I wasn't. I didn't bother watching the last five minutes. It was pretty lame. The score just sounded like imitation Goldsmith TMP score. Again., lame.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

I must have seen a different pilot then...

Witty, fast and some loveable characters and excellent chemistry between the two main leads... The music was just terrific too... maybe a bit too many variations on the main theme... but some good action music as well...

I don't know why anyone should be still laughing out loud... it's a fairly decent adventure series with some humor thrown in... worked very well at least in my case. My only complain is that longer running time would be far more suitable for especially the first episode with much needed exposition, introduction of all characters and then still fulfilling mission of the week all within 45 minutes only.

4/5*

Can't wait to see the next episode scored by McNeely!




Now if that upcoming STD will be at least half as good, it should be fun end of the year.... but I doubt it would be anywhere near as good as Orville both in terms of music and especially visuals (which in case of STD look so painfully amateurish so far... but that's for another thread).

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 9:24 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

I must have seen a different pilot then...

Witty


I don't know about witty, but I thought too much of the show looked cheap (the outside of the shuttlecraft had that silver-painted plastic water jug look) though I know they must have spent a lot producing it. The Bridge set also was annoyingly absent of displays.

I'm also someone who finds Seth McFarlane extremely obnoxious and his humor of the most condescending and juvenile kind. Not what I enjoy at all. I was pretty much bored by the entire thing and have no plans to watch any more of it.

2.5/5

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I'm giving The Orville a tentative, mild thumbs up. It has the potential to be good or terrible, but the jury is still out on it.

I loved hearing the music though.


Feel the same way myself. I'm glad that we have a show that doesn't take it self so seriously. But it needs to decide which direction the show should go in, comedy wise. Perhaps Seth should watch Quark (from the seventies) or Red Dwarf to get an idea for some broader humor. I loved the ship, and I loved some of the characters, but it needs a bit more work. Can't wait to see what the regular theme song will sound like that?

---jthree

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I'm giving The Orville a tentative, mild thumbs up. It has the potential to be good or terrible, but the jury is still out on it.

I loved hearing the music though.


Feel the same way myself. I'm glad that we have a show that doesn't take it self so seriously. But it needs to decide which direction the show should go in, comedy wise. Perhaps Seth should watch Quark (from the seventies) or Red Dwarf to get an idea for some broader humor. I loved the ship, and I loved some of the characters, but it needs a bit more work. Can't wait to see what the regular theme song will sound like that?

---jthree

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I'm giving The Orville a tentative, mild thumbs up. It has the potential to be good or terrible, but the jury is still out on it.

I loved hearing the music though.


Feel the same way myself. I'm glad that we have a show that doesn't take it self so seriously. But it needs to decide which direction the show should go in, comedy wise. Perhaps Seth should watch Quark (from the seventies) or Red Dwarf to get an idea for some broader humor. I loved the ship, and I loved some of the characters, but it needs a bit more work. Can't wait to see what the regular theme song will sound like that?

---jthree

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   JThree   (Member)

I'm giving The Orville a tentative, mild thumbs up. It has the potential to be good or terrible, but the jury is still out on it.

I loved hearing the music though.


Feel the same way myself. I'm glad that we have a show that doesn't take it self so seriously. But it needs to decide which direction the show should go in, comedy wise. Perhaps Seth should watch Quark (from the seventies) or Red Dwarf to get an idea for some broader humor. I loved the ship, and I loved some of the characters, but it needs a bit more work. Can't wait to see what the regular theme song will sound like that?

---jthree

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   historicalproductions   (Member)

I also agree. There's a lot of room for improvement, but a lot of potential as well. It did feel that Seth was "toned down" a little, but that could be just because it was the pilot and he didn't want to go too far with his style of comedy. The visual FX were fine for a FOX series of this nature, and the music was great even though I did notice Broughton trying to do a ST:TMP during the spacedock scenes almost as if he was mimicking a temp track.

Either way, I will continue to watch the series. Compared to most of what's on TV today, this is a step above the usual and could turn out to be a fun watch. Let's hope it's given a chance. Heck, it even got me to watch The Simpsons again afterwards, and I haven't tuned in to that in years.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I enjoyed it, thought it was fun and was refreshingly low on the scatalogical humor more prevelant in MacFarlane's animated series and the Ted films. It struck a nice balance between humor and SF/Action Adventure. Sort of like "regular dudes on Star Trek." In a way, it was kind of close in tone to the Bad Robot Star Trek films.

However, I feel it would have been a lot more effective as a half hour show. A full hour is hard to sustain this kind of forumla. Eventually, it'll tip away into something else. Series tend to change over time and, much like the 1966 Batman, could very well lean hard on whatever they feel people are responding to. With Batman, they amped up the satire and lost the cleverness. With The Orville? Time will tell. I like it as is, but can easly see it become something more reliant on poop jokes.

However, I have the slender hope that MacFarlane is hoping to show another side of himself. The side that likes the sort of show he's sending up.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I sorta liked it (and the music was great!).

However, as someone who dislikes all things STAR TREK, I was hoping it would ridicule the formula and ingredients even more. But it played it pretty straight for the most part, compared to MacFarlane's previous work.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   A. A. Ron   (Member)

I sorta liked it (and the music was great!).

However, as someone who dislikes all things STAR TREK, I was hoping it would ridicule the formula and ingredients even more. But it played it pretty straight for the most part, compared to MacFarlane's previous work


Well that was a stupid thing to hope for given MacFarlane's very positive view of Star Trek.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2017 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

However, as someone who dislikes all things STAR TREK, I was hoping it would ridicule the formula and ingredients even more.

There are plenty of things on and off the internet that already do that.

 
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