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 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

For God's sake, no more Remote Control shit composers! frown

How come you like Brian Tyler so much if almost all of his scores contains music from those same shit composers?

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

The film is also getting a soundtrack release: Music Inspired by

Here's the opener:



Album deets:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/ghost-in-the-shell-music-inspired-by-the-motion-picture/id1215646223

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2017 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Oh, yeah, the film has "inspired" me to write a song, too!

It's basically just me ripping off several random jumbles of colorful metaphores while kicking shit around.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2017 - 11:50 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I'm not sure how I feel personally about that remix of Kawai's score—it sounds like somebody basically just laid over some percussion and Transformers sound effects—but this preview, along with the prior use of Kawai's music to promote the film, has me curious how much influence the original has had on Mansell's approach. Kawai's Ghost in the Shell is one of my favorite scores of all time, so to hear Mansell interpret the material à la Black Swan would be fantastic indeed. I'm very on the fence about seeing this movie, but an opportunity to hear Mansell's music firsthand against the visuals might be the push I need to buy my ticket.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Full clip of water fight. Score sounds good, some twinkling sounds throughout.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

I can't tell from that clip if it's Mansell or Balfe...

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Here's another, longer clip:



I get a Mass Effect/Deus Ex vibe from it, which is exactly what I imagined would work for a film like this. The cyber-punk sound lends itself to both Mansell and Balfe.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

I want to watch those clips, but as soon as I got to the dining table in the second one, I decided I'd rather see it for the first time in the actual film. But the music backing that opening city shot that moves in on the Major sounds cool—electronic with a slight Asian inflection—and I love that there's that unmistakable percussion chime from the original Ghost in the Shell, too. Gives me hope that Kawai's score is recognizably interwoven throughout and that the film as a whole has been crafted with fans of the original in mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 3:55 PM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

This topic's title rhymes. Heh.

But seriously, is it that hard to have just one person score a movie these days?

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Sounds like Tron: Legacy, with samples of Kawai sprinkled in.

The iconic images from the previous movies seem less iconic here in live-action.

I will watch this on cable (or via awards screener when the time comes).
I was not looking for an origin of The Major, so I was simply not looking for >this< movie.
(the season 2 ep that teases The Major's possible origin is too heart breaking)

The casting has bigger problems beyond the non-Asian-ness of Johanssen (and honestly, anime characters simply do not look Asian- they look Anime).
As far as kick-ass actresses to play The Major, I was on board with Johanssen from the start.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 1:43 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Not to derail this thread or anything, but the internet whining about the non-Asian-ness of this live action Major is one of the most absurd film adaptation complaints I've heard. The character does not look Asian to begin with and is also in fact just a shell—meaning, looks aside, any nationality could play the Major without changing who the character fundamentally is. Furthermore, Scarlett Johansson actually looks pretty dang close to what the character looks like. Probably more so than any Asian actress they might have cast in the part. I think some people just want talking points to support agendas, platforms, issues, etc. regardless of how much real-world sense they make.

Back to the music: yeah, I see where you're coming from with the Tron: Legacy meets Kawai thing and that's not at all a bad combo in my book. Those are two of my favorite scores.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

Those clips are really terrible, it's depressing to see them lift scenes and shots from the original, but now without a soul and with appalling dialogue. It all just looks like a more expensive but equally wooden version of that Aeon Flux live action adaptation.

As for the score, part of why Kawai's original is so haunting and iconic is because he directly plays against the cyberpunk visuals with a score that is largely acoustic, often nothing more than spare percussion and ritual chanting chorus. His score provides the human element that the story needs. Replacing that with cliche electronica as we are likely getting here is just another shallow creative choice--one of many this new film seems to be making.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Looks and sounds good to me! I rarely go to the cinema any more, but I"ll be checking this out in IMAX 3D

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Those clips are really terrible, it's depressing to see them lift scenes and shots from the original, but now without a soul and with appalling dialogue. It all just looks like a more expensive but equally wooden version of that Aeon Flux live action adaptation.


Yep, completely dull and wooden.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Let's be fair, the dialogue and voice acting in the anime were never anything to write home about... This looks to be an incredibly faithful adaptation, flaws and all.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

The original film had pretty dull voice acting, true—Stand Alone Complex fared much better in this regard—but it was teeming with atmosphere, thanks largely to the music (or absence of) and the visuals. That's where I'm hoping against hope that the film will hold up. They have a great visual director onboard and a great composer and great source material. They have everything they need to make it work. Now have they? is the question.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   MKRUltra   (Member)

The original film had pretty dull voice acting, true
Only if you watch the crappy English dub, sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

The original film had pretty dull voice acting, true
Only if you watch the crappy English dub, sure.


Both really. By comparison with SAC, either of the film's vocal tracks are pretty weak.

 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

The original film had pretty dull voice acting, true
Only if you watch the crappy English dub, sure.


Both really. By comparison with SAC, either of the film's vocal tracks are pretty weak.


Scarlett Johansson is always dull and lifeless so they picked the right "actress" for the job.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2017 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   thestat   (Member)

Well, I am surprised as that looks great. The visuals are astonishing and the weirdness of the original is captured well with some of the Geisha robotics. The score is great too - it is difficult to tell who composed that as Mansell is fully capable of hard hitting electronica and big orchestra which this straddles. It does sound a bit like a serious version of the stuff Balfe did for the Lego Batman but some of the more aggressive electronic stuff seems Mansell.

 
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