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 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Hi, Essankay & wayoutwest (& Leo, if he's still around these FSM parts)

Months ago, I bought the LP on CHIAMATE 22?-?22 TENENTE SHERIDAN and I have no regrets.
Sure, we collectors of Italian soundtracks would love content such as this to be released on compact disc but this prospect doesn't seem likely.
If you have a turntable (I have always kept a turntable for myself since I began collecting around 1985), then I recommend you attempt to purchase this Trovajoli LP - purportedly there's only 7 remaining according to Four Flies' website...:



Thanks, Zardoz, but I'll pass. Having lived through the LP era I can say that I have no fondness for vinyl except as artifacts. I'm no more likely to take up LPs again than I am to return to VHS. At this point I'd prefer a good quality download to an LP. And as appealing as this Trovajoli album is, the world is filled with great music that I can acquire in more acceptable formats, so it's easy to say no. And being able to say no is actually quite liberating.

I'm happy for you and all other vinyl enthusiasts that it's available, though.


Snap more or less feel the same as Essankay.

Have yet to go down the download route they have come in handy for listening to sound samples when nothing else can be found on YouTube etc...though some downloads are no longer available.

The last few years everything has got more expensive mostly because of higher postage and exchange rates especially when buying new releases. Good news has been that many older releases can now be bought a lot cheaper on the secondary market compared to some years back.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 5:21 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Interesting to read the diversity of replies to this unexpected 'vinyl-only' fad affecting a number of items released during this time period.
True, we all decide our own priorities with respect to editions currently available.

Whilst Chiamate 22-22 Tenente Sheridan is not considered by me to be an indispensable essential Trovajoli album, it ranks with me as a good '3-star' work.
Nonetheless, I wasn't able to resist acquiring it or bear not having the previously unavailable cues.

If my CD-lovin' peers permit me to indulge myself, then I'll continue to ramble along and chat about my thoughts on Chiamate 22-22 Tenente Sheridan plus similar releases.

The initial RCA EP had 2 tracks lasting around 6.5 minutes:



Curiously, the soundtrackcollector website doesn't yet acknowledge the existence of the Four Flies re-issue & expansion and lists only this 45 r.p.m.

The Four Flies' 2016 version has 16 cues, with each side of the LP lasting around 16 minutes



If this were to be issued as a stand-alone title on CD, then the CD would be approximately 32 minutes in length and likely cost $19.99.
32 minutes has been a rather typical runtime duration for LPs in the 1960s, so the content of Chiamate 22-22 Tenente Sheridan seems a natural fit for the vinyl record format.
The price, though, is not $9.99 (the cost of a new release soundtrack LP during the mid-1980s).
One thing I remember from the 1980s was that the CD counterparts for the LP versions cost at least $5 more for the newer medium than the older LP format.
Retailers would sell soundtrack LPs for $8.99 or $9.99 whilst the CD versions might cost $15.99 or greater - upwards to $19.99.

Nowadays premium price is placed upon the LP instead of the CD.
I saw Chiamate 22-22 Tenente Sheridan initially priced at over $30 ... but (half-a-year-later), when the price was reduced to around $23.99, I pounced on it.

In my mind, I think the cost is over-priced yet likely a necessity. When I think about how a few labels issue some vintage titles on a not-for-profit basis ... plus pondering upon the costs incurred when sound engineers spend so much time attempting to lovingly restore master tapes whose sound qualities can range between quite poor to surprisingly good considering their decades-long entropy in vaults ... then I no longer have issues regarding costs and formats.

For me, acquiring albums is ultimately about obtaining the music and not necessarily about satisfying my personal criteria. High costs or media formats are secondary considerations underneath the priority of making such music available prior to master tapes’ eventual oblivion.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2017 - 7:17 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

Hopefully Four Flies has had the necessary work done for all their releases to be easily issued on CD or superior format in the future.

I also hoped some sort of digital adjunct would be available upon purchasing the Four Flies vinyl. Alas I can't find any on Bandcamp. The vinyl sits waiting (hopefully not long) for a machine suitable for my recent collection.

Meanwhile there is LOVEMAKER to help soothe my jangled nerve.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   Red of the Jungle   (Member)

Lot of great score mentioned here. I'll ad one I love too, a bit unusual, but lot of fun.


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2017 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Lot of great score mentioned here. I'll ad one I love too, a bit unusual, but lot of fun.




I'll second that.....it's superb !

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Is Leo Nicols still around these parts?

Has Leo gotten any of Armando's music in 2018 yet?

I just got my CD of LoveMaker the other day, and I think it's a very unusual album.



This is one of those Penta Music/Beat Records issues.

One cue has Edda singing (this one's for you, Leo), but what I found amazing is that there are multiple selections on this album of the I Cantori Moderni di Alessandroni singing in German.
From what little I learnt about the film itself, it seems that whole production was unusual (Italian man wishes revenge against Germans by impregnating German women) in that Italy & Germany collaborated on a subject about national/ethnic hatred & revenge.

Additional album oddities that I observed:

-) This disc is copyrighted 2014, but "Penta Music" did not start up until 2016 (!).

-) Seems to me that the master tape's restoration and album production were all completed in 2014 (without any of the U.K. involvement credited in other Penta/Beat discs) but held in reserve for 3 years to be released within 2017 in conjunction with the 100th anniversary of the birth of Armando Trovajoli in 1917)

-) The liner notes are by Claudio Fuiano with no mention made of any other writers or translators.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2018 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Is Leo Nicols still around these parts?

Has Leo gotten any of Armando's music in 2018 yet?

I just got my CD of LoveMaker the other day, and I think it's a very unusual album.



This is one of those Penta Music/Beat Records issues.

One cue has Edda singing (this one's for you, Leo), but what I found amazing is that there are multiple selections on this album of the I Cantori Moderni di Alessandro singing in German.
From what little I learnt about the film itself, it seems that whole production was unusual (Italian man wishes revenge against Germans by impregnating German women) in that Italy & Germany collaborated on a subject about national/ethnic hatred & revenge.

Additional album oddities that I observed:

-) This disc is copyrighted 2014, but "Penta Music" did not start up until 2016 (!).

-) Seems to me that the master tape's restoration and album production were all completed in 2014 (without any of the U.K. involvement credited in other Penta/Beat discs) but held in reserve for 3 years to be released within 2017 in conjunction with the 100th anniversary of the birth of Armando Trovajoli in 1917)

-) The liner notes are by Claudio Fuiano with no mention made of any other writers or translators.


Hi Zardoz, Yep I'm still lurking about.
Thank you for the info about this latest Trovajoli CD... sounds interesting, any soundtrack with Edda is an instant purchase for me....I must check this one out.

Leo.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 6, 2018 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

I've just seen on MBR's site that this score is about to be reissued by CINEVOX:

https://www.musicbox-records.com/fr/cd-musiques-de-films/6014-la-stanza-del-vescovo.html

I have excerpts of it on the 2d side of a LP but don't recall them precisely right now but think I liked this score.

Also reissued by Cinevox is Ortolani's UNO SCANDALO PERBENE. Any thoughts about this one?

Laurent

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Also reissued by Cinevox is Ortolani's UNO SCANDALO PERBENE. Any thoughts about this one?

In the meantime you can listen to almost all of the former Cinevox LP and CD albums on Youtube. I think Cinevox put all of their old albums also on iTunes and Spotify.
Here the complete old LP version of Ortolani´s UNO SCANDALO PERBENE with 26 minutes which for me is a rather mediocre affair and certainly not one of the best scores by Ortolani:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkMrhpknIzk&list=PLM3G0aTEFKMGhJhm4V3wA5r5-ZChk9H6G

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)


ECOLE AL CENTRE DE LA TERRA aka
Herakles vs.the Vampires.
Excellent Hermannesque score in some parts.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

THE BIG GAME..also great listining exp.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 5:53 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Ah....sorry was De Masi...

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2018 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

I've just seen on MBR's site that this score is about to be reissued by CINEVOX:

https://www.musicbox-records.com/fr/cd-musiques-de-films/6014-la-stanza-del-vescovo.html

I have excerpts of it on the 2d side of a LP but don't recall them precisely right now but think I liked this score.

Also reissued by Cinevox is Ortolani's UNO SCANDALO PERBENE. Any thoughts about this one?

Laurent


Excellent news! My first thought.... put in cart and pre-order.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2018 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

Cinevox have just released a 23 track expanded edition of this score.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tE4MLQ85rM

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 18, 2018 - 12:37 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

Is Leo Nicols still around these parts?

Has Leo gotten any of Armando's music in 2018 yet?

I just got my CD of LoveMaker the other day, and I think it's a very unusual album.



This is one of those Penta Music/Beat Records issues.

One cue has Edda singing (this one's for you, Leo), but what I found amazing is that there are multiple selections on this album of the I Cantori Moderni di Alessandro singing in German.
From what little I learnt about the film itself, it seems that whole production was unusual (Italian man wishes revenge against Germans by impregnating German women) in that Italy & Germany collaborated on a subject about national/ethnic hatred & revenge.

Additional album oddities that I observed:

-) This disc is copyrighted 2014, but "Penta Music" did not start up until 2016 (!).

-) Seems to me that the master tape's restoration and album production were all completed in 2014 (without any of the U.K. involvement credited in other Penta/Beat discs) but held in reserve for 3 years to be released within 2017 in conjunction with the 100th anniversary of the birth of Armando Trovajoli in 1917)

-) The liner notes are by Claudio Fuiano with no mention made of any other writers or translators.


Hi Zardoz, Yep I'm still lurking about.
Thank you for the info about this latest Trovajoli CD... sounds interesting, any soundtrack with Edda is an instant purchase for me....I must check this one out.

Leo.


I bought a copy of this excellent release when I was in Rome last Christmas. It is Trovajoli at his best in my opinion. I would highly recommend it to any interested purchasers!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2018 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

I don't recall any FSMer ordering Trovajoli's Duck in Orange Sauce from the GDM restaurant menu.

Nabbed this Duck during SAE's recent sale and it surpassed my expectations. I'd recommend this one, too, to Leo.



Plus one gets to see a number of Monica Vitti photos. smile

 
 Posted:   Jul 15, 2018 - 2:43 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

I don't recall any FSMer ordering Trovajoli's Duck in Orange Sauce from the GDM restaurant menu.

Nabbed this Duck during SAE's recent sale and it surpassed my expectations. I'd recommend this one, too, to Leo.



I was considering it but that horrendous disco song killed my enthusiasm tout suite. I couldn't even pretend to like it ironically. Maybe eventually I would have gotten over it, but I don't see how.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2018 - 6:09 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

I don't recall any FSMer ordering Trovajoli's Duck in Orange Sauce from the GDM restaurant menu.

Nabbed this Duck during SAE's recent sale and it surpassed my expectations. I'd recommend this one, too, to Leo.



I was considering it but that horrendous disco song killed my enthusiasm tout suite. I couldn't even pretend to like it ironically. Maybe eventually I would have gotten over it, but I don't see how.


Hi Zardoz,
I missed the boat on that score.....must check it out.

Thanks for the heads up.

 
 Posted:   Jul 16, 2018 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

I missed the boat on that score.....must check it out.


To be fair, the rest of the clips sounded fine and the song may not trouble you one whit. For me, though, songs like this one are as harmonicas to pandas.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 17, 2018 - 1:59 AM   
 By:   Leo Nicols   (Member)

I missed the boat on that score.....must check it out.


To be fair, the rest of the clips sounded fine and the song may not trouble you one whit. For me, though, songs like this one are as harmonicas to pandas.


Yeah, whatever.....

 
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