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 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:12 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Still buying yours though. Great releases you've been coming up with lately Bruce and special kudos for It's Wonderful Life - magic you've performed there.


Every label has great releases, all of them. That's not the issue. The issue is glutting the market - I warned about it three years ago, no one wanted to hear it, but I have heard from enough people that it has indeed hurt us all. The proof, I'm afraid, is there for all to see.


It really depends on how you define glut. While we've been a little inconsistent lately, we usually delete two titles every two weeks, so the Intrada catalog is actually not much larger than it was a year ago in spite of the flow of releases. So if a glut is defined by the number of releases available at any given time, Intrada is thinning its own herd.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:14 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

By the way, I was writing my message when haineshisway was posting his and didn't see his message until I posted mine, so my opening word was not a comment on his post. I have no interest in getting involved in whatever dispute is going on between Kritzerland and La-La-Land, I just wanted to express my appreciation for Intrada.

There is no dispute going on between anyone - just comments yay or nay. It's all good. Especially how some people just magically show up in this thread out of nowhere, almost as if they were directed here by some unknown alien power just in time to see my post.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:15 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

So back to the question at hand -- have we come close on anything yet, Roger?

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

So back to the question at hand -- have we come close on anything yet, Roger?

I still say GOD TOLD ME TO even if he told Mr. Rozsa not to.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Still buying yours though. Great releases you've been coming up with lately Bruce and special kudos for It's Wonderful Life - magic you've performed there.


Every label has great releases, all of them. That's not the issue. The issue is glutting the market - I warned about it three years ago, no one wanted to hear it, but I have heard from enough people that it has indeed hurt us all. The proof, I'm afraid, is there for all to see.


It really depends on how you define glut. While we've been a little inconsistent lately, we usually delete two titles every two weeks, so the Intrada catalog is actually not much larger than it was a year ago in spite of the flow of releases. So if a glut is defined by the number of releases available at any given time, Intrada is thinning its own herd.


My definition of glut is different than yours, I imagine. My definition of glut is when there are weeks, which there have been, when there are ten or twelve new titles all released in the same week. That, to me, IMO, OPINION is a glut and no one can buy all those titles no matter how they may want them. When I have discussions with people who are in a place to know whereof they speak and they tell me that much of what's released is simply not selling because there's so much of it, well, that reinforces what is apparent to me anyway. It's all good. As Doris Day said, Que Sera Sera, Whatever Will Be, Will Be. I look forward to any new Intrada release, something I can't say for any other label except mine own smile

Anyway, I thought we needed some fireworks so I provided some in honor of July 4th and everyone crunching numbers to find out we've all had the best first six months of any year EVER in our ENTIRE history since the dawn of soundtracks. I think that's fanTASTIC.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:22 PM   
 By:   Jim Bailey   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.


Hahaha, says the guy who only puts out two new titles a month. Your rant reeks of jealousy. Get lost under your shady bridge and stay there, troll.

If certain labels can manage 4 - 6 new releases every month well more power to them. I certainly dont mind as it gives us collectors more selections to choose from (something underwear guy can't seem to grasp). I say keep 'em coming labels!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

Bernstein seems like a logical guess for the second clue since he probably holds the record for most rejected scores and also did a lot of documentary work, but the word dissonance doesn't usually come to mind for me when I think of his scores. That seems more like a Fielding trait, and he seems to be a favorite of Intrada. In Fielding's IMDB filmography there are a couple of intriguing documentary titles, The Crazy World of Laurel and Hardy (!) and Monte Carlo.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:24 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

I don't know why but the description of the composer took me straight to James Horner.

neither do I. Horner and jazz? Really?


You know...I'm not sure what planet I was on when I wrote my post now that I think about it. I was thinking about all the stuff he wrote for Cocoon, Cocoon II, *batteries not included, Field of Dreams...etc. And that's all big band...

In the famous words of Homer Simpson...*doh!*

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:25 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.


Hahaha, says the guy who only puts out two new titles a month. Your rant reeks of jealousy. Get lost under your shady bridge and stay there, troll.

If certain labels can manage 4 - 6 new releases every month well more power to them. I certainly dont mind as it gives us collectors more selections to choose from (something underwear guy can't seem to grasp). I say keep 'em coming labels!


You watch your phraseology. Two titles a month is all I ever want to put out, and this year we haven't even done that. So, oops. You want to start name calling I'm more than happy to oblige you, "Jim."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Still buying yours though. Great releases you've been coming up with lately Bruce and special kudos for It's Wonderful Life - magic you've performed there.


Every label has great releases, all of them. That's not the issue. The issue is glutting the market - I warned about it three years ago, no one wanted to hear it, but I have heard from enough people that it has indeed hurt us all. The proof, I'm afraid, is there for all to see.


It really depends on how you define glut. While we've been a little inconsistent lately, we usually delete two titles every two weeks, so the Intrada catalog is actually not much larger than it was a year ago in spite of the flow of releases. So if a glut is defined by the number of releases available at any given time, Intrada is thinning its own herd.


My definition of glut is different than yours, I imagine. My definition of glut is when there are weeks, which there have been, when there are ten or twelve new titles all released in the same week. That, to me, IMO, OPINION is a glut and no one can buy all those titles no matter how they may want them. When I have discussions with people who are in a place to know whereof they speak and they tell me that much of what's released is simply not selling because there's so much of it, well, that reinforces what is apparent to me anyway. It's all good. As Doris Day said, Que Sera Sera, Whatever Will Be, Will Be. I look forward to any new Intrada release, something I can't say for any other label except mine own smile

Anyway, I thought we needed some fireworks so I provided some in honor of July 4th and everyone crunching numbers to find out we've all had the best first six months of any year EVER in our ENTIRE history since the dawn of soundtracks. I think that's fanTASTIC.



You're very kind! I think even in our niche market there are microniches. The audience for Deep Rising and Master of the World are probably not the same, so even when released on the same day I don't believe they compete with each other. Although I do really appreciate the cosmopolitan collector who can appreciate both Baxter and Goldsmith. When you talk about 12 releases in a week, I think it's a very small percentage of an already very small collector base that would actually want to buy all 12 releases.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

I don't know who is right or wrong and I don't care, but that was not a nice way to talk to a lady, I would never talk to a lady that way.PEACE.Personally I thought your comment on other companies activities was a bit childish.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:32 PM   
 By:   Jim Bailey   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.


Hahaha, says the guy who only puts out two new titles a month. Your rant reeks of jealousy. Get lost under your shady bridge and stay there, troll.

If certain labels can manage 4 - 6 new releases every month well more power to them. I certainly dont mind as it gives us collectors more selections to choose from (something underwear guy can't seem to grasp). I say keep 'em coming labels!


You watch your phraseology. Two titles a month is all I ever want to put out, and this year we haven't even done that. So, oops. You want to start name calling I'm more than happy to oblige you, "Jim."


Awww, wassamatter, Hainesherway, can't keep up with the bigger labels? Boo hoo.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

You can talk all you want about glutting the marketplace but I just crunched our numbers for the first half of 2014 and it's the most we have ever made in our 12 year history from January 1 to June 30. I was shocked, but it made sense when I looked at the sales.

While we didn't have a mammoth size hit like previous years (i.e. Star Trek The Motion Picture, ID4, or Hook), we had several home runs...and those home runs helped sell some of the smaller releases.

It's all about the titles.

For every Empire of the Sun, It's a Wonderful Life and Young Sherlock Holmes a company releases it helps pay for smaller projects like D.A.R.Y.L. and Judith that didn't sell a boatload of copies.

There is nothing wrong with variety in the marketplace. A customer doesn't have to buy everything that comes out. That's just plain silly. Pick and choose and get what you want. If you are worried about something selling out, then prioritize and buy the items that you know are limited.

Also, keep in mind some times things are beyond the labels' control. For instance, we only have 2 releases in July, but most likely 5 in August. Projects get delayed for a variety of reasons...most of which is beyond the labels control. None of us are made of money and we need to start recouping a project's cost as soon as possible.

In other words -- SHIT HAPPENS.

Happy 4th, everyone! smile

MV


Is ST TOS part of that success or more 2013 end?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:37 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.


Hahaha, says the guy who only puts out two new titles a month. Your rant reeks of jealousy. Get lost under your shady bridge and stay there, troll.

If certain labels can manage 4 - 6 new releases every month well more power to them. I certainly dont mind as it gives us collectors more selections to choose from (something underwear guy can't seem to grasp). I say keep 'em coming labels!


You watch your phraseology. Two titles a month is all I ever want to put out, and this year we haven't even done that. So, oops. You want to start name calling I'm more than happy to oblige you, "Jim."


Awww, wassamatter, Hainesherway, can't keep up with the bigger labels? Boo hoo.


Ooh, the bigger labels - ooh, that sure is a cutting remark. Anyone who has to resort to name-calling is, well, you know, not someone worth conversing with. I leave the grammar school remarks to you, Jim Bailey. Boo hoo.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:40 PM   
 By:   Jim Bailey   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.


Hahaha, says the guy who only puts out two new titles a month. Your rant reeks of jealousy. Get lost under your shady bridge and stay there, troll.

If certain labels can manage 4 - 6 new releases every month well more power to them. I certainly dont mind as it gives us collectors more selections to choose from (something underwear guy can't seem to grasp). I say keep 'em coming labels!


You watch your phraseology. Two titles a month is all I ever want to put out, and this year we haven't even done that. So, oops. You want to start name calling I'm more than happy to oblige you, "Jim."


Awww, wassamatter, Hainesherway, can't keep up with the bigger labels? Boo hoo.


Ooh, the bigger labels - ooh, that sure is a cutting remark. Anyone who has to resort to name-calling is, well, you know, not someone worth conversing with. I leave the grammar school remarks to you, Jim Bailey. Boo hoo.


U mad bro?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

...and when I saw the word jazz I also thought of Quincy Jones, but apparently Roger has said all of the composers are deceased, so I guess that isn't a possibility. Did anyone see Quincy on TCM Monday night. It was nice to hear him talking about his film composing for a change, since this doesn't seem to get much attention anymore....

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.


Hahaha, says the guy who only puts out two new titles a month. Your rant reeks of jealousy. Get lost under your shady bridge and stay there, troll.

If certain labels can manage 4 - 6 new releases every month well more power to them. I certainly dont mind as it gives us collectors more selections to choose from (something underwear guy can't seem to grasp). I say keep 'em coming labels!


You watch your phraseology. Two titles a month is all I ever want to put out, and this year we haven't even done that. So, oops. You want to start name calling I'm more than happy to oblige you, "Jim."


Awww, wassamatter, Hainesherway, can't keep up with the bigger labels? Boo hoo.


Ooh, the bigger labels - ooh, that sure is a cutting remark. Anyone who has to resort to name-calling is, well, you know, not someone worth conversing with. I leave the grammar school remarks to you, Jim Bailey. Boo hoo.


U mad bro?


No bro, just amused at your attempts to provoke. But U keep trying because U seem to enjoy it so much. U fail, of course, so there's that. U and I are not conversing anymore - U are on UR own and I know that you'll enjoy URself no end.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:52 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

...and Franz Waxman occasionally included some jazz elements, but I wouldn't really call him a jazz composer. Nino Rota could do both jazz and orchestral, but again I wouldn't really use the word dissonance when talking about his music and he doesn't seem like a likely composer for Intrada....

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

and he doesn't seem like a likely composer for Intrada....

Alas.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Guy   (Member)

Mmm, jazz to orchestra.... only one person comes to my mind.... Andre Previn.

But as for which scores...

 
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