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 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Got the Soundtrack on Monday. Well worth the upgrade! Few points.

Weird batch of tracks that don't include instruments heard in the film (Drum like sounds during the reveal of the Red October in the opening) and ones that have all sorts of instruments not heard in the film (Putin's demise is all over the place!). The opening could be an example of last minute add ons while the latter was a "tone it down" kind of scenario.

And can anyone explain what the deal is with the music that's heard when Marko talks about his reasoning to defect to Vasil and when the Dallas tries to elude the Red October's Crazy Ivan? I can't find it anywhere on this soundtrack. Was it not included because it wasn't music done by Poledouris or that it couldn't be located?

One last piece of music that I always got a kick out of that I can't find is during the track "Kaboom!". You hear it when Captain Mancuso turns the Red October towards the Soviet sub and says "Hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch". It's very rapid and unique sounding but isn't in the track.

I am by no means trying to put the soundtrack down since I think it's worth the purchase if you like the music, I just found the presentation to be surprising. I'm VERY happy that the music played during Ryan's realization ("you son of a bi***. YOU SON OF A BI***!") is included, and when Tupolev receives his orders and quickly orders his sub into action. The end title also turned out to be a surprising addition since it's mostly the vocals to previous tracks, but it's surprisingly effective without the instruments playing up until the point we see Stanley.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 5:33 AM   
 By:   Frank V   (Member)

And can anyone explain what the deal is with the music that's heard when Marko talks about his reasoning to defect to Vasil and when the Dallas tries to elude the Red October's Crazy Ivan? I can't find it anywhere on this soundtrack. Was it not included because it wasn't music done by Poledouris or that it couldn't be located?

I guess it wasn't included because it wasn't music Poledouris wrote for the film. The film also uses music from No Man's Land.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

And can anyone explain what the deal is with the music that's heard when Marko talks about his reasoning to defect to Vasil and when the Dallas tries to elude the Red October's Crazy Ivan? I can't find it anywhere on this soundtrack. Was it not included because it wasn't music done by Poledouris or that it couldn't be located?.

It's a cue called "Payoff" from Poledouris' No Man's Land. It was tracked in.

One last piece of music that I always got a kick out of that I can't find is during the track "Kaboom!". You hear it when Captain Mancuso turns the Red October towards the Soviet sub and says "Hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch". It's very rapid and unique sounding but isn't in the track.

Is it on the MCA CD? I can't remember.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

- Is it on the MCA CD? I can't remember.

Negative. Maybe it's another case of tacked on music, only it's patched in with "Kaboom!"?

Ah ha! Here's a clip. Starts at 1:16.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   theMaestraX   (Member)

Damn! That's the track I was waiting for along time!
'I wanna raise rabbits in Montana & my wife will cook them for me!'
Then that music starts when Sam Neil looks down as the glass slides off!
It should fit before Chopper Track but is NOT on MCA CD!

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)


The end of the scoring process for Hunt for Red October was quite chaotic. Near the end, in dubbing, they basically took it out of Basil's hands and remade the score as they deemed necessary, remixing some passages from Michael Boddicker's synth stems. I think what you're hearing in Kaboom! is some of this last-minute manipulation that was not what Basil wanted, and not desirable or available for us to present on the CD, sorry.

Lukas

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

The end of the scoring process for Hunt for Red October was quite chaotic. Near the end, in dubbing, they basically took it out of Basil's hands and remade the score as they deemed necessary, remixing some passages from Michael Boddicker's synth stems. I think what you're hearing in Kaboom! is some of this last-minute manipulation that was not what Basil wanted, and not desirable or available for us to present on the CD, sorry.

Lukas


It happens, still a pretty amazing release.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2013 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Damn! That's the track I was waiting for along time!
'I wanna raise rabbits in Montana & my wife will cook them for me!'
Then that music starts when Sam Neil looks down as the glass slides off!
It should fit before Chopper Track but is NOT on MCA CD!


Because that cue wasn't composed for RED OCTOBER, that's why it wasn't on the original album, or this new edition. That cue was composed for a 1987 movie called NO MAN'S LAND. It is by Basil Poledouris and the score is available on disc, from Prometheus Records I think, combined with CHERRY 2000. Just seek out that album for that cue and then you can finally relax.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2013 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

The end of the scoring process for Hunt for Red October was quite chaotic. Near the end, in dubbing, they basically took it out of Basil's hands and remade the score as they deemed necessary, remixing some passages from Michael Boddicker's synth stems. I think what you're hearing in Kaboom! is some of this last-minute manipulation that was not what Basil wanted, and not desirable or available for us to present on the CD, sorry.
Lukas


I 100% approve of presenting the music the way Poledouris intended. I can't wait to spin this baby!

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2013 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

The end of the scoring process for Hunt for Red October was quite chaotic. Near the end, in dubbing, they basically took it out of Basil's hands and remade the score as they deemed necessary, remixing some passages from Michael Boddicker's synth stems. I think what you're hearing in Kaboom! is some of this last-minute manipulation that was not what Basil wanted, and not desirable or available for us to present on the CD, sorry.

Lukas


I figured it had to be something along those lines. I am by no means disappointed by it's lack of presence on this new release and I thank you for providing an explanation.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2013 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Fyi you can get the Payoff cue from itunes if you want to include it. Just checked. Anyone know how much of the cue was used? I dont remember... Was it the entire cue or just part of it?

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2013 - 6:38 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Fyi you can get the Payoff cue from itunes if you want to include it. Just checked. Anyone know how much of the cue was used? I dont remember... Was it the entire cue or just part of it?

Fascinating! Thxs. I always thought that was just a sound effect.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2013 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Shock-Wave   (Member)

The end of the scoring process for Hunt for Red October was quite chaotic. Near the end, in dubbing, they basically took it out of Basil's hands and remade the score as they deemed necessary, remixing some passages from Michael Boddicker's synth stems. I think what you're hearing in Kaboom! is some of this last-minute manipulation that was not what Basil wanted, and not desirable or available for us to present on the CD, sorry.

Lukas


I honestly liked the film version and too bad it wasn't available sorry. However I am very pleased with this release. My Red October whining has final come to an end.

Hmmm what other sdtks can I whin about?

wink

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   theMaestraX   (Member)

Thanx guys for your fab insight!

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 9:26 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

My fantasy LP playlist:

Side A

Hymn to Red October (Main Titles) 5:08
Chopper 4:10
Putin's Demise (album version) 0:59
Tupolov 2:13
Course Two-Five-Zero 0:22
Red Route I (album version) 3:33
Kaboom!!!! 2:31

Side B

Two Wives 2:45
Ancestral Aid 2:15
Plane Crash 1:52
Nuclear Scam 7:22
End Title (Ancestral Aid -Hymn to Red October -Nuclear Scam) 4:41

Total: 37:48

(Required some audio editing and arranged as an album presentation.)

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

My fantasy LP playlist:

Side A

Hymn to Red October (Main Titles) 5:08
Chopper 4:10
Putin's Demise (album version) 0:59
Tupolov 2:13
Course Two-Five-Zero 0:22
Red Route I (album version) 3:33
Kaboom!!!! 2:31

Side B

Two Wives 2:45
Ancestral Aid 2:15
Plane Crash 1:52
Nuclear Scam 7:22
End Title (Ancestral Aid -Hymn to Red October -Nuclear Scam) 4:41

Total: 37:48

(Required some audio editing and arranged as an album presentation.)


I'm going to veto this, because Kaboom shouldn't be on Side A, and you can't put two of the cues from the End Credits on the same side. Kinda redundant. Chopper would be a good lead-off cue for Side B.

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


I'm going to veto this, because Kaboom shouldn't be on Side A, and you can't put two of the cues from the End Credits on the same side. Kinda redundant. Chopper would be a good lead-off cue for Side B.



You make some fair arguments for a readjustment. I ended side A with Kaboom!!! because side A usually ends on a bang with album presentations. Side B usually begins with a "love theme" of some kind, and the only track that comes close to that was Two Wives. That said maybe I'll try your suggestions.

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2013 - 4:05 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Fyi you can get the Payoff cue from itunes if you want to include it. Just checked. Anyone know how much of the cue was used? I dont remember... Was it the entire cue or just part of it?


From what I remember, they used most of it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

A great CD

Alas, the end credits sound quality is not very good. Has intrada explained why already ?

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 6:45 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

A great CD

Alas, the end credits sound quality is not very good. Has intrada explained why already ?


Really? I've listened to that track quite a few times myself and nothing about it has really struck me as not sound good. The sound of the voices is obviously has a different feel to them since they don't have the music playing alongside them. Could you be more specific?

 
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