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 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

True, Zimmer isn't really a 'maestro' (that requires conducting skills), but I DO think he's a master of his domain.

Well his domain is commerical film score, and he makes a lot of money at that. True. This is the extent of it.

So Thor, how about: "DK the best score of the last 5 years?"

I could list a whole lot of new scores in five years by composers that are not even my personal favs that would be on that list well above DK, and those scores would be original scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

True, Zimmer isn't really a 'maestro' (that requires conducting skills), but I DO think he's a master of his domain.

He's probably the best businessman film music has had.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


As I used to tell my children when they criticized the positive efforts of someone who was trying to be creative or make a contribution for the enjoyment of all...

"If you can do better, knock yourself out!"

This quieted them quickly and I hear them giving this "advice" to their friends at times.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Well his domain is commerical film score, and he makes a lot of money at that. True. This is the extent of it.

So Thor, how about: "DK the best score of the last 5 years?"


Well, I think it's a great score, but wouldn't go quite that far. I'm mostly a fan of Zimmer's 80's and 90's stuff, with some notable great ones in the 00's.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

As I used to tell my children when they criticized the positive efforts of someone who was trying to be creative or make a contribution for the enjoyment of all...

"If you can do better, knock yourself out!"

This quieted them quickly and I hear them giving this "advice" to their friends at times.


so edwzoom,

You are trying to tell me that I should not comment about him not being a maestro unless I myself am an outstanding film composer? That is idiotic.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

As I used to tell my children when they criticized the positive efforts of someone who was trying to be creative or make a contribution for the enjoyment of all...

"If you can do better, knock yourself out!"

This quieted them quickly and I hear them giving this "advice" to their friends at times.


so edwzoom,

You are trying to tell me that I should not comment about him not being a maestro unless I myself am an outstanding film composer? That is idiotic.


If you can show me exactly where I said that, I will gladly apologize for it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

As I used to tell my children when they criticized the positive efforts of someone who was trying to be creative or make a contribution for the enjoyment of all...

"If you can do better, knock yourself out!"

This quieted them quickly and I hear them giving this "advice" to their friends at times.


so edwzoom,

You are trying to tell me that I should not comment about him not being a maestro unless I myself am an outstanding film composer? That is idiotic.


If you can show me exactly where I said that, I will gladly apologize for it.


"If you can do better, knock yourself out!

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

As I used to tell my children when they criticized the positive efforts of someone who was trying to be creative or make a contribution for the enjoyment of all...

"If you can do better, knock yourself out!"

This quieted them quickly and I hear them giving this "advice" to their friends at times.


so edwzoom,

You are trying to tell me that I should not comment about him not being a maestro unless I myself am an outstanding film composer? That is idiotic.


If you can show me exactly where I said that, I will gladly apologize for it.


"If you can do better, knock yourself out!


In all honesty, I had not read your particular posts and was not replying in particular to you. As someone advised me on here some time ago, a thicker skin might benefit you. I have no more to say on this. Have a good day.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

As I used to tell my children when they criticized the positive efforts of someone who was trying to be creative or make a contribution for the enjoyment of all...

"If you can do better, knock yourself out!"

This quieted them quickly and I hear them giving this "advice" to their friends at times.


so edwzoom,

You are trying to tell me that I should not comment about him not being a maestro unless I myself am an outstanding film composer? That is idiotic.


If you can show me exactly where I said that, I will gladly apologize for it.


"If you can do better, knock yourself out!


In all honesty, I had not read your particular posts and was not replying in particular to you. As someone advised me on here some time ago, a thicker skin might benefit you. I have no more to say on this. Have a good day.


So in other words your quaint phrase I pointed out had nothing of relevance to this thread at all.

Good day

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

One need not be able to DO better....only to recognize the difference between what is GOOD and what is NOT.



 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:43 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

One need not be able to DO better....only to recognize the difference between what is GOOD and what is NOT.

agreed

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

One need not be able to DO better....only to recognize the difference between what is GOOD and what is NOT.

Ron,

You have a valid point and well said. I was talking to children at the time I proffered this advice. When they pass it on it is spoken in "adultese" and is not so black and white.

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Congrats to Hansi! Well deserved!

Personally, I hope there will be a book about him sooner or later. Would have been very interesting.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)

Can't say I agree with this at all, but the guy's soundtracks at the moment are very good sellers, so maybe they base it on that.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 1:04 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Interestingly Mr. Williams received a lifetime achievement award at the Classic Brits last year.

Mr. Williams deserved it for sure.



Which, according to sources, he promptly threw in the wastebasket after this year's telecast.
LOL
big grin
wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Interestingly Mr. Williams received a lifetime achievement award at the Classic Brits last year.

Mr. Williams deserved it for sure.



Which, according to sources, he promptly threw in the wastebasket after this year's telecast.
LOL
big grin
wink


 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 1:46 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Ock unable to see pic.
Did YOR type in link according to wishes of Internet Gods?

Wait, Ock try to fix.



Okay. Internet Gods appeased now.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2013 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   BarleyBlair   (Member)

Sounds like maybe 2013 is the end of the world, not 2012 as was first thought!

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   smuli of finland   (Member)

In an era of upsetting news, this one takes the cake, and has it too. I think those giving this shiny piece of metal-or-some-such are way, way wrong.
What 'outstanding contribution' means, is out of my reach. Somehow he got popular. Somehow his sound was exactly what audiences and thus directors wanted for their films. The darkknights and inceptions are really bland compositionally (noteworthy: my personal life savers are Morricone & Goldenthal & Kamen, whose music is quite complex).
However, those sounds that Hans has made, they stand out, at least from orchestral and thematic material. Also, I guess it must be acknowleged that the Z-sound has been copied to numerous films. Thus, he has made a significant contribution to Music.
This award is to me just one more in the line of Santaolalla getting the oscar twice.
But, perhaps, this gives hope to my (not yet formed) one-man-chorus-band called "Acca Pella", in which I record all kinds of sounds from my mouth and sample them as I wish. My band would stand out. I see myself accepting a Brit. Who'll applaud? Who'll download?

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

One need not be able to DO better....only to recognize the difference between what is GOOD and what is NOT.

Ron,

You have a valid point and well said. I was talking to children at the time I proffered this advice. When they pass it on it is spoken in "adultese" and is not so black and white.


I do not begrudge Mr. Zimmer any success or accolades. I begrudge him my inability to related to his musicality.

 
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