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 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Listening to this as well as the album released of Bryan Ferry's "Yellow Cocktail" music covers performed by the glam rocker and his jazz orchestra, I am struck by the feeling that Luhrmann dropped the ball by allowing Jay-Z's musical needs to stick in the film. Armstrong and Ferry's material is such a more delightful approach, and it doesn't bog the film down in anachronisms (though I was a fan of the movie). I'd like to live in the parallel world where only Armstrong's score played alongside the "Yellow Cocktail" jazz band numbers, I think the film really would've benefitted and perhaps gained more adoration had this been the case.

P.S. Another lovely score by Mr. Armstrong, as well. He's constantly delivered no matter what the material.

 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

This discussion sheds some light on the realities of CDs vs. downloads. Start at post #9. The Atlantic article linked in that post is also enlightening in terms of how artist/label revenue is determined.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/myths/4021-digital-audio-never.html


If that stuff is accurate about the costs of CDs, then why is it that a lot of albums from Europe I am interested in are only made available for a cheap download in the US? There has to be more to it because a number of bands I like have albums on CD in Europe but the US version is just a download. If the CDs really have more profit margin then it wouldn't make sense to see that.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 18, 2013 - 8:00 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

If that stuff is accurate about the costs of CDs, then why is it that a lot of albums from Europe I am interested in are only made available for a cheap download in the US? There has to be more to it because a number of bands I like have albums on CD in Europe but the US version is just a download. If the CDs really have more profit margin then it wouldn't make sense to see that.

I imagine it depends on licensing and distribution conditions, not the delivery method. The opposite happens as well: albums are available for download here in the US but not elsewhere, for example, which I know is a source of great frustration to some members of this board.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

Why doesn't Universal want my money?

leider können wir Ihnen den gewünschten Download/Service nicht zur Verfügung stellen.
Aufgrund unserer Verträge mit der Musikindustrie dürfen wir diesen Titel/Dienst nur innerhalb Deutschlands anbieten. Sollte Ihnen diese Meldung angezeigt werden, kann dies an folgenden Ursachen liegen:

- Sie befinden sich außerhalb Deutschlands. In diesem Fall können Sie Musicload bei Ihrer Rückkehr nach Deutschland wieder wie gewohnt nutzen.


Right, I'm not in Germany, I just want to purchase a lossless download of this thing.

Oh well, I'll be there in October and I'll buy it then.

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Urs Lesse   (Member)

Why doesn't Universal want my money?

leider können wir Ihnen den gewünschten Download/Service nicht zur Verfügung stellen.
Aufgrund unserer Verträge mit der Musikindustrie dürfen wir diesen Titel/Dienst nur innerhalb Deutschlands anbieten. Sollte Ihnen diese Meldung angezeigt werden, kann dies an folgenden Ursachen liegen:

- Sie befinden sich außerhalb Deutschlands. In diesem Fall können Sie Musicload bei Ihrer Rückkehr nach Deutschland wieder wie gewohnt nutzen.


Right, I'm not in Germany, I just want to purchase a lossless download of this thing.

Oh well, I'll be there in October and I'll buy it then.


Thanks for letting me know, I take it this was from musicload.de. Same old annoyance then, sigh.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

Deutsche Telekom's musicload.de store offers Craig Armstrong's score as a lossless download (WAV):
http://www.musicload.de/various-artists/the-orchestral-score-from-baz-luhrmann-s-film-the-great-gatsby/musik/album/18218600_2


Cheers for the link to that. Just looked at how much they want for Tyler's Iron Man 3 €19,99 for mp3, €24,99 for WAV. That's just taking the piss given the CD is cheaper and (in theory, not yet tried) I could buy it from this French site for €12,99 in lossless.

http://www.qobuz.com/album/iron-man-3-brian-tyler/0005008728572

Note they also have Gatsby for €12,99

http://www.qobuz.com/album/the-orchestral-score-from-baz-luhrmanns-film-the-great-gatsby-multi-interpretes/0060253750181

 
 Posted:   Aug 19, 2013 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   Urs Lesse   (Member)

Thanks for the reminder, had almost forgotten about qobuz. However, it seems equally country-restricted: "Ce produit n'est pas autorisé à la vente dans votre pays." (This product ist not authorised for sale in your country).

It might have appeared that I kept trying to advertise musicload, but my main point was really just to point to any alternatives to lossy-only stores. I'm really open to other stores being discovered.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

Don't worry Urs I didn't take it that way at all.

It is remarkably frustrating that there are these few outlets that allow lossless downloads but are, pointlessly, region restricted and leading to insane price differences. What is so different about France that they can charge €13 but in Germany it is consider €25 is a good price.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

No sign of a CD yetfrown I'm becoming less hopeful, they usually release the CD the Monday after the download version. But I think Argo was delayed a bit, so I'll wait and not buy the mp3s yet.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 20, 2013 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   eggerty31   (Member)

Not waiting for the CD (if there even is one)... downloading the FLAC from Qobuz now.

No CDs I can live with providing a lossless download is available.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Zaku   (Member)

Yeah, I forgot to mention the Yellow Cocktail Music release.

Dat Bryan Ferry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epV-btS6FzI

I've only heard this song, and it's FUN.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Yeah, I forgot to mention the Yellow Cocktail Music release.

Dat Bryan Ferry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epV-btS6FzI

I've only heard this song, and it's FUN.


Thank you! Now, enough about the distribution method of the music, you guys will need to learn how to get over this future in time.

NOW HOW ABOUT THE MUSIC?

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I thought the score had some solid parts at the start but the second half is full of over-long and excessively slow cues. Not enough development to support the 4 and 5 minute length of the cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

I thought the score had some solid parts at the start but the second half is full of over-long and excessively slow cues. Not enough development to support the 4 and 5 minute length of the cues.

Totally agree. The first half is really good, but totally loses steam on the second half. Too many soft cues that don't really go anywhere. Definitely not worth a $13.99 download IMHO.

 
 Posted:   Aug 21, 2013 - 8:42 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I thought the score had some solid parts at the start but the second half is full of over-long and excessively slow cues. Not enough development to support the 4 and 5 minute length of the cues.

That's why I think it's important to note that Luhrmann blew this Armstrong musical opportunity by applying the cacophony of awful musical anachronisms within the film. While I really enjoyed some of the approach, and the songs by Lana Del Rey and The xx are superb (primarily because they are contributions with Armstrong), the rest fell flat to me. If Luhrmann had allowed Armstrong more free reign, perhaps the second half of the album could've had stronger material (as most of the drama of the film occurs here).

*For the record, I do not think the second half of the album is faulty, but I think "Dead Myrtle" is a track I can easily skip over because it literally goes nowhere.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2013 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   Urs Lesse   (Member)

As Scott Bettencourt notes in another thread, it seems that currently the only other option aside from the download is a CD-R: http://www.amazon.com/Orchestral-Score-Luhrmanns-Great-Gatsby/dp/B00EQHQXY0

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2013 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

As Scott Bettencourt notes in another thread, it seems that currently the only other option aside from the download is a CD-R: http://www.amazon.com/Orchestral-Score-Luhrmanns-Great-Gatsby/dp/B00EQHQXY0
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Excellent news. At least the rest of the world now has access to this album which it didn't have with the crappy download release.

CD-R ordered!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2013 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

So glad to finally see a CD available!!! (Even if a CD-R). I figured one would come out after a week or two.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2013 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   cwtlead   (Member)

I just ordered the CDr from Amazon too!!! I'm thankful for a physical lossless media format.

I also picked up Nathan Furst's 'Waiting for Lightning' (CDr). I really enjoy his work.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2013 - 5:32 PM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

As Scott Bettencourt notes in another thread, it seems that currently the only other option aside from the download is a CD-R: http://www.amazon.com/Orchestral-Score-Luhrmanns-Great-Gatsby/dp/B00EQHQXY0

That's good to see. The delay must've been while Water Tower records uploaded the uncompressed files to Amazon with their 2400 baud modem.

 
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