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 Posted:   Apr 29, 2013 - 8:05 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

Yavar wonders what Yor has against such excellent Danny Elfman scores as Alice in Wonderland (film definitely far inferior to score), Sleepy Hollow (ditto...score added a lot), Batman (they originally wanted Prince to score it!), Batman Returns (actually much better and more developed than its predecessor as revealed by LLL's excellent complete release), Planet of the Apes (awful film with any score, excellent score though not a patch on Goldsmith's of course), and especially The Nightmare Before Christmas (yes, Burton did not direct but you must admit Elfman composed a masterpiece!)

Yavar (who loves Ed Wood and Howard Shore too)


YOR does not like Elfman at all.

Except for The Nightmare Before Christmas and Midnight Run.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2013 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

But Yavar is very curious *why*. He often channels Bernard Herrmann, who Yor seems to like, and he has a real gift for melody.

Has Yor not heard Black Beauty? Yavar finds it most hard to believe *anybody* could not like this score.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2013 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

There's an effective 8-movement suite on Lydia Kavina's theremin album called SPELLBOUND, which also features a version of Rozsa's concerto that is completely different from the familiar warhorse. This one is more of a concerto for theremin and orchestra.


http://www.lydiakavina.com/

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2013 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

But Yavar is very curious *why*. He often channels Bernard Herrmann, who Yor seems to like, and he has a real gift for melody.

Has Yor not heard Black Beauty? Yavar finds it most hard to believe *anybody* could not like this score.

Yavar


YOR thinks Elfman nice guy, but mediocre composer. He is just another rock and roll guy who hapens to write film scores because Tim Burton likes to agravate people.

And he does not "channels" Hermann, he just copy and paste. The same when Zimmer clones from Morricone or Horner from Prokofiev. YOR does not like that.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2013 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

But Yavar is very curious *why*. He often channels Bernard Herrmann, who Yor seems to like, and he has a real gift for melody.

Has Yor not heard Black Beauty? Yavar finds it most hard to believe *anybody* could not like this score.

Yavar


YOR thinks Elfman nice guy, but mediocre composer. He is just another rock and roll guy who hapens to write film scores because Tim Burton likes to agravate people.

And he does not "channels" Hermann, he just copy and paste. The same when Zimmer clones from Morricone or Horner from Prokofiev. YOR does not like that.



Thank you YOR. I couldn`t agree more. I`ve listened to so many Elfman scores and although I sense some kind of artistic "wildness" in them I almost always miss the ability and craftmenship to musically develop his ideas. To me Elfman always sounds like someone trying to step into Herrmann`s shoes without having his musical education.

 
 Posted:   Apr 29, 2013 - 2:33 PM   
 By:   YOR The Hunter From The Future   (Member)

counterpoint inteligente people!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

expanded edition (remastered with bonus tracks) will be available this fall from Howe Records

 
 Posted:   Oct 14, 2013 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Thanks, governor, we know!

 
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