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 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Save up a couple of bucks and get the LaLaLand release.

 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

This shouldnt even be a debate. The LLL one is clearly superior in presentation, packaging and the sound is amazing. I have the Sony one...but alot of that material on there are considered alterates anyway right? So LLL wins. 'Nuff said wink

 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   sherrill50   (Member)

I have both, and listen to both depending on what I want to listen to. I have no issues (sound or otherwise) with the '99 Columbia - it's a fine set. If you don't want the extras, or don't want to spend the $35, you'll be absolutely fine with the Columbia.



 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Gold Digger   (Member)

I have some money coming my way soon and will be catching up with some soundtracks, and I was thinking it's time I get Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It's part of the "Original Six" film scores that got me into film music in the first place as a kid, and I've actually never had it on CD, just my dad's vinyl LP (which I still have).

I know LLL released a 3-disc set last year and I'm sure it's splendid, but I really don't want to drop $35+ on one album, and I don't need all the rejected/alternate cues and such. The film is not one burned into my memory (I think I've only ever seen it once), so I don't feel like I need every last note. I just want a good representation of the score, so that's why I was eyeing the 1999 Columbia Records release over the CD version of the LP, since I believe that featured different performances of cues from the film versions. It also adds a good deal more material and looks to have the bulk of the score. (By my estimate, the LLL release only adds about an extra 17-18 minutes, whereas the Columbia CD is already about 65 minutes.)

I remember a lot of fans complaining about this release when it came out, but I was just curious what people think about it and if it would be worth purchasing based on what I'm looking for. Thanks.

What madness is this? Buy the new La La Land release. Don't hesitate a moment longer. Your reasoning is crazy talk.


 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

If we could cue up the '99 version of "Floating Office" and the La-La Land version of the same cue immediately afterward for this agonized collector, he would have his answer. And if they could hear the Original Soundtrack version of the Main Title from La-La, their internal debate would be over.

 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Warunsun   (Member)

ST:TMP (20th Anniversary) is probably my most listened to CD over the past decade. The music for the film is truly fantastic. It is definitely better than the movie! ;-) And the 20th Anniversary was a great CD release.

The newer release is amazing and better! smile That said, making my own playlist is now how I listen to it usually, like Stephen suggested. CD-Rs are so cheap now-a-days I can make my own 80 minute choices and burn them. After a while if I want to change it up I just pitch the CD-R and make a new one.

 Posted:   Mar 8, 2013 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Dude, LLL all the way!

 Posted:   Nov 14, 2013 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Is every track on the 1999 release, not counting disc 2, on the LaLaLand release?

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Is every track on the 1999 release, not counting disc 2, on the LaLaLand release?

I think they are, as alternate takes. The only one that really stands out to me is Force Field. It didn’t surprise me at all that the version that is on the ’99 disc (the “alternate”) was actually marked to be used in the film and the other one was used by mistake. That opening blaster beam is just terrific. (The film version is no slouch.)

I know that the main topic of this thread is long since gone, but buying the LLL version is like buying the Superman box (well, it’s a lot cheaper, but still): You might not need or even want the tons of extras, but the main score sounds SO much better than on any other version by a noticeable margin.

Also, the film version of the main title has been a grail of mine for 30 something years, so this was a no brainer.

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

I have to add my voice to the "get the La-La Land release" camp. The 20th Ann release (1999) is a very nice presentation of the score, and the added disc INSIDE STAR TREK is a nostalgic trip down memory lane; for anyone who isn't totally enamoured by this score, it's a great presentation.

HOWEVER, (caps for emphasis) the sound quality is SO much better on the La-La Land, it's worth the extra investment and discs. Don't miss it.

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Allow me to add my 2 federation credits. smile

The 1999 edition was a really nice expansion of the original LP arrangement, and sounded better than the OST (though all releases sound pretty great to me).

However, the LLLR release, to my mind, is definitive. It contains everything, presents it well, sounds fantastic (from the 16 track analogue backup, and remixed fantastically).

It also contains all of the material from the 1999 edition (remixed, but same cues/takes included, but not expressed).

You cannot recreate accurately the exact 1999 release contents simply using tracks, as some cues would need to be edited down, and the 1999 release played some cues at the wrong speed, as did the OST for that matter (compare the Klingon Battle in a WAV editor, the OST was slightly off speed).

The LLLR release also includes, unaltered, the OST arrangement direct from the digital album master tapes at the end of disk 2.

I love every edition, the OST, the 1999 expanded release, and the LLLR release.

I only ever reach for the LLLR release.

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

I have em all and I would just sum it up this way... the LLL renders both previous editions obsolete, and by that I mean there's almost no reason to ever listen to others again, except maybe for nostalgia.

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   Sarge   (Member)

Henry, shoot me an e-mail when you have a chance...

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I want to thank everyone who responded to my post, you guys are awesome!smileYou answered my question perfectly. The reason I asked the question was because I LOVE all of Goldsmith's STAR TREK music and want every note he wrote for STAR TREK. I have the LLL release and wanted to know if there was more on the 1999 release. BTW, I also have Goldsmith's VOYAGER single cd which is also pretty awesome. Again thanks guys.

 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Ubik   (Member)

I have em all and I would just sum it up this way... the LLL renders both previous editions obsolete, and by that I mean there's almost no reason to ever listen to others again, except maybe for nostalgia.

I disagree! The producers of the La La Land album remastered everything beautifully EXCEPT for the original soundtrack album tracks. (Anyone know why that is?) The Columbia album, on the other hand, was remastered in 24 bit high definition sound. Therefore, tracks such as "Ilia's Theme," "The Meld," Spock Walk," and the "Main Title" sound much cleaner than on the La La Land 2nd CD.

I think that the version of "Illia's Theme" on the Columbia album is worth the price alone.

 Posted:   Nov 17, 2013 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

I think that the version of "Illia's Theme" on the Columbia album is worth the price alone.

Agreed! I've been listening to the Columbia CD recently and that particular track is a standout.

 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 4:01 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Being a johnny-come-lately at this site, I've been taking my time buying all the re-done treasures, such as the 3-CD LLL "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" and the 8-CD "Superman," both of which I ordered a few days ago. Received La-La-Land's "Star Trek" today, and listened to it with my tall Klipsch towers and the rest of my Klipsch surround system, sometimes in simulated surround. And it is truly a revelation. Just a few hours earlier I had listened to a multi-channel surround SACD of Mahler's 6th, and as much as I love the Mahler, the Goldsmith was NOT a letdown! What gorgeous, glorious music! And I kept thinking that Jerry Goldsmith would have been so pleased that fans of film music have access to such a sterling recording of this soundtrack. It's worth every penny, and I agree with Rnelson who wrote that this set renders all previous ones obsolete: Buy the La-La-Land (if you haven't already) and find yourself in heaven!

 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 4:09 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

The 1999 version was a good release but La-La Land's release completely blows the 1999 version out of the stars (literally). I had the 1999 release but ditched it once I got the LLL version.

Even if you don't listen to the alternates or early tracks the complete score and the remastered quality is just out-standing!

The 1979 film mixes are GREAT! I've picked up a lot of instruments with that mix than I ever did with previous versions.

Over all I say it's worth every penny!

 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 4:14 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

I have every release of this score, I think, I played the Colombia print over and over. The Sony one was excellent at the time. The LaLaLand has improved sound and a lot more music. It is well worth the money.

 Posted:   Jan 8, 2014 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Actually I forgot to mention something. When I was playing this for the first time, I noticed a kind of click, maybe a smack, sound as the music faded out at the end of each cue. Then there would be a couple of seconds of silence before the next one started, again followed by the smacking sound as the music faded out. I took the discs out and tried them again and, at the end of each selection there was that slightly annoying sound. While typing this, I played part of the first CD on my computer before downloading it to iTunes, but couldn't hear that sound. Anyone else notice it while playing the CDs on their stereo?

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