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Mar 29, 2012 - 1:11 PM
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VERY BAD NEWS: I have just a/b'd the La La Land 'Fall of the Roman Empire' with the PEG release. The PEG release blows it and the Varese out of the water. I swear this 're-mastering' syndrome is driving me (and my pocketbook nuts). The PEG release has a much richer, fuller sound than the LLL and a great stereophonic soundfield - which is 'pinched' and narrow on the LLL. The clarity in the various sections of the orchestra in the PEG release compared to the others is a revelation. The tympani in 'Balomar's Barbarian Attack' are a great example - they just thunder in the PEG. I just acquired the PEG about a month ago and was immediately struck by what a vast improvement it was over the Varese. Now, I'm disappointed and irritated to report that it also far surpasses the La La Land. Big bummer for me..
I've also a/b'd the two (PEG and LLL) and my opinion is the opposite in every respect. Compared to the LLL, the PEG masks detail in a wash of bloated bass and the highs have far less detail and no sheen. Individual instruments are far better defined in the LLL mastering, while a bass mask bleeds all over the PEG. Your personal preference is your own and no-one can argue with that, but to present an absurdity like "The clarity in the various sections of the orchestra in the PEG release compared to the others is a revelation" is simply nonsense. And so is the observation about the "stereophonic sound field" being pinched on the LLL. The very opposite is true, unless one considers "sound field" to be judged by how much bass is echoing around, irrespective of how much instrumental detail is lost.
The LLL sounds as if it has been mastered with some respect towards how the original instruments actually sounded, with detail exceptionally well managed to give us a vast improvement in presence without any trade off in terms of harshness. In contrast, the PEG just does the equivalent of switching on the maximum bass boost in a cheap Sony Walkman.
I'm not the biggest fan of some LLL releases, as past posts have shown. But to say their mastering of The Fall of the Roman Empire is inferior to the PEG would be risible, if not for the fact that it might direct readers to ignore a very fine disc and buy an old muffled one instead.
I'm talking here of the main body of the disc, the stereo tracks. I've not compared the mono bonus cues.
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Mar 29, 2012 - 1:20 PM
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paul rossen
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VERY BAD NEWS: I have just a/b'd the La La Land 'Fall of the Roman Empire' with the PEG release. The PEG release blows it and the Varese out of the water. I swear this 're-mastering' syndrome is driving me (and my pocketbook nuts). The PEG release has a much richer, fuller sound than the LLL and a great stereophonic soundfield - which is 'pinched' and narrow on the LLL. The clarity in the various sections of the orchestra in the PEG release compared to the others is a revelation. The tympani in 'Balomar's Barbarian Attack' are a great example - they just thunder in the PEG. I just acquired the PEG about a month ago and was immediately struck by what a vast improvement it was over the Varese. Now, I'm disappointed and irritated to report that it also far surpasses the La La Land. Big bummer for me..
I've also a/b'd the two (PEG and LLL) and my opinion is the opposite in every respect. Compared to the LLL, the PEG masks detail in a wash of bloated bass and the highs have far less detail and no sheen. Individual instruments are far better defined in the LLL mastering, while a bass mask bleeds all over the PEG. Your personal preference is your own and no-one can argue with that, but to present an absurdity like "The clarity in the various sections of the orchestra in the PEG release compared to the others is a revelation" is simply nonsense. And so is the observation about the "stereophonic sound field" being pinched on the LLL. The opposite is true, unless one considers "sound field" to be judged by how much bass is echoing around, irrespective of how much instrumental detail is lost.
The LLL sounds as if it has been mastered with some respect towards how the original instruments actually sounded, with detail exceptionally well managed to give us a vast improvement in presence without any trade off in terms of harshness. In contrast, the PEG just does the equivalent of switching on the maximum bass boost in a cheap Sony Walkman.
I'm not the biggest fan of some LLL releases, as past posts have shown. But to say their mastering of The Fall of the Roman Empire is inferior to the PEG would be risible, if not for the fact that it might direct readers to ignore a very fine disc and buy an old muffled one instead.
Wow...think I'll stick to my More Music from cd and the original LP. And if I want more I'll purchase the new Tadlow recording...
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again, can either basil or bob pick up any differences in terms of any of the passages of certain tracks between the tadlow and la la land versions regarding how both recordings wrer orchestrated?(eg.PAX ROMANA and THE DAWN OF LOVE) any input would be appreciated.
The Tadlow was recorded using the original orchestral scores and parts, so while there might be differences in the PERFORMANCES, there are not likely to be any significant differences in the ORCHESTRATION.
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