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 Posted:   Feb 14, 2012 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

Too bad I already bought Dunston Checks In at $9.98. It's a good score though (one of Goodman's last before his death).

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2012 - 7:00 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I have the original CD of A WALK IN THE CLOUDS, but I will be picking up this new edition.

Great music - always enjoyed the film, as well...thanks LLL...:-)

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2012 - 10:18 PM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

To clarify a bit about POTA, there were so many differences in the album mixes that including them all would have spilled over to a third disc anyway. So it made more sense to just have the album as a 3rd disc, which had the added benefit of making it easier to do the Fox and Sony math. If we'd used the album mixes for the film assembly it wouldn't be an accurate representation of what's heard in the film. Likewise if the album mixes were left off entirely then that would not be true to what Elfman wanted the music-only experience to be.

Mike

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2012 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

So what does the term 'mix' refer to here? Different volume levels of various parts, or actual different takes with possibly even slightly different orchestrations?

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2012 - 11:41 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

I'd say rearranged instruments and audio.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

how many unites of APES are sold so far ?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   Penelope Pineapple   (Member)

So what does the term 'mix' refer to here? Different volume levels of various parts, or actual different takes with possibly even slightly different orchestrations?

As far as I can tell from listening to other genres (rock, hip hop, electronic...pretty much everything except Michael Buble - yech!), when something is mixed differently, then yes, different parts may have different volume levels, and as Buscemi says, the instruments and audio may be slightly rearranged. (The Cure's "Just Like Heaven" is a great example; the single version is an infinitely better and crisper-sounding mix than the muddier-sounding album version. On the single version, the instruments come into the song one by one, on the album version, they're all mixed together from the beginning. Same song, same take, totally different mix, and both mixed by different people.)

If we're talking about a different take of the same song, with perhaps slightly different orchestrations, then I would call that an alternate version, not a different mix.

But, that's just how I understand it. I could be totally wrong, so if there's someone reading who can actually clarify that would be great.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   bobkind3   (Member)

No pan-pipes?

Having listened to the soundtrack extensively before seeing the film in 2001 I was surprised at the time to hear cheesy pan-pipes play that 3 note motif at the beginning of the main titles. Frankly I was glad the mix on the CD dropped that instrumentation. However listening to the clip posted of the main titles purporting to be the "film version" it seems it is also missing here. Obviously no one has the CD yet nor have I had chance to dig out my DVD and check this out definitively but I wondered if anyone else had spotted this. More revisionism?

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 8:01 AM   
 By:   bobkind3   (Member)

Found this - the clip has the mix heard in the main credits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0X9YQB5am8&feature=related

So much for "If we'd used the album mixes for the film assembly it wouldn't be an accurate representation of what's heard in the film."

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

No pan-pipes?

Having listened to the soundtrack extensively before seeing the film in 2001 I was surprised at the time to hear cheesy pan-pipes play that 3 note motif at the beginning of the main titles. Frankly I was glad the mix on the CD dropped that instrumentation. However listening to the clip posted of the main titles purporting to be the "film version" it seems it is also missing here. Obviously no one has the CD yet nor have I had chance to dig out my DVD and check this out definitively but I wondered if anyone else had spotted this. More revisionism?


Yeah I always wondered why the 2001 album left out the pan-pipes also. Keeep in the mind the "main title" was edited in the film. So the pan-pipes might have been tracked in. The main title on the album is probably the way Elfman intended it.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   adilson   (Member)

I'm ordering only A WALK IN THE CLOUDS, I'm not fan of POTA

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


As far as I can tell from listening to other genres (rock, hip hop, electronic...pretty much everything except Michael Buble - yech!), when something is mixed differently, then yes, different parts may have different volume levels, and as Buscemi says, the instruments and audio may be slightly rearranged. (The Cure's "Just Like Heaven" is a great example; the single version is an infinitely better and crisper-sounding mix than the muddier-sounding album version. On the single version, the instruments come into the song one by one, on the album version, they're all mixed together from the beginning. Same song, same take, totally different mix, and both mixed by different people.)

If we're talking about a different take of the same song, with perhaps slightly different orchestrations, then I would call that an alternate version, not a different mix.

But, that's just how I understand it. I could be totally wrong, so if there's someone reading who can actually clarify that would be great.


Indeed, and that's why I asked. If it is the case, then I won't be buying this. If the recordings are actually different, especially if the OST version is as well, then I will.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

There was no element that contained the pan-pipes. It was obviously a last minute addition at the dub, like the percussion in the Alien main title. Grabbing it from the DVD was a vetoed idea and it's already available there as opposed to alternates which are not; something would have to have been dropped in order to run the main title again. Adding material to disc 3 was also not an option.

Everything was actually slated either "film mix" or "CD mix" and there are differences in the prominence and sometimes even the placement of instruments, particularly with regard to the percussion.

Mike

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Cool, well, it sounds like a great release, Mike! I can't wait to get it!

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   foxmorty   (Member)

the apes have arrived!

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

That was fast! Mine shipped a few minutes after I ordered yesterday, so I'm hopeful for a Thursday arrival but not counting out Friday/Saturday in PA! Very excited about a good Elfman expansion.

 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   EvilDead   (Member)

Want it, but probably should buy Batman Returns before this one smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2012 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   Zack371   (Member)

Excellent. I'll be getting both. So far, LLL's seem to be the definitive versions of titles that appeared in the Elfman-Burton set. Don't get me wrong. That's a wonderful set and I'm happy to own it but LLL's presentations of Batman, Batman Returns, Mars Attacks and now POTA are definitely the versions of choice for me.

As always, thanks to MV and everyone at LLL!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2012 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Excellent. I'll be getting both. So far, LLL's seem to be the definitive versions of titles that appeared in the Elfman-Burton set. Don't get me wrong. That's a wonderful set and I'm happy to own it but LLL's presentations of Batman, Batman Returns, Mars Attacks and now POTA are definitely the versions of choice for me.

As always, thanks to MV and everyone at LLL!


Both versions of Mars Attacks! are incomplete by LLLR and the E/B 25th Anni. Music Box. One thing's for sure the E/B box has over the LLLCD "The Landing" track in it's entirety and unedited..

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2012 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Erik Donovan   (Member)

Why is it regardless of who I order them from, the jewel boxes on the larger sets are always crushed. Sitting here opening my mail while listen to my new FD Varese finds, I opened my La-La Land package and the POTA jewel case is crushed!! La-La Land even went to the extra steps, bubble mailer, extra bubble wrap around the cases and the USPS has decided to let an elephant step of the package!!!!! The back was so crushed it did damage the back insert. I was able to replace the case for now from a lessor score CD (will replace that later). Any chances of boxes in the future?

 
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