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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Illustrated Man
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 7:27 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

It's a very subtle work. As I remember them, the liner notes stated JG had about a year to mull over his input. In other words, it wasn't cranked out as fast as many he worked on. I really do think it shows. The film itself I haven't seen in yonks - it had something of a baroque feel to it. At the very least it comes off as atypical in style and execution.

There are some really great moments, such as the shock horror of The House Has Gone.



It's in the Leonard Rosenman school in some ways.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

As much as I dig Goldsmith, I can't stand "Illustrated Man"...

I remember listening to the audio samples and not being impressed. And I love Goldsmith's 60s and early 70s stuff. Maybe they picked the wrong tracks for the samples.

I'll have to listen to the entire thing before I decide to buy it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

As much as I dig Goldsmith, I can't stand "Illustrated Man"...

I remember listening to the audio samples and not being impressed. And I love Goldsmith's 60s and early 70s stuff. Maybe they picked the wrong tracks for the samples.

I'll have to listen to the entire thing before I decide to buy it.


THE ILLUSTRATED MAN is an interior score.
Unlike THE SATAN BUG or PLANET OF THE APES, which are highly rhythmic and depict physical action, THE ILLUSTRATED MAN reflects the psychological states of the characters (like an Alex North score for a filmed play). It is also a serial atonal score despite the lyricism of its main theme.
And that's not all. THE ILLUSTRATED MAN is also monothematic and, in the best sense of the term, minimalist. Almost all the musical material stems from its 4-note cell and its "theme & variation" approach gets filtered through a myriad of instrumental color combinations from within the chamber-like ensemble.

It may sound thin to some listeners and chock-full of non-sequiturs which seem to go nowhere, but THE ILLUSTRATED MAN has a lot going on within itself with respect to combining separate branches of academic music.
It's as if Jerry Goldsmith took an American South folk tune and minced it with Olivier Messiaen's serial-atonal colors, Morton Feldman's minimalism & a dash of early 20th-century neo-classicism.

There's also vintage '68 Moog, wordless female vocalise, echoplexed flutes, and the sitar!

THE ILLUSTRATED MAN's music is as kaleidoscopic and hallucinatory as the "skin illustrations" all over Rod Steiger's body. The only other score by Goldsmith which achieves this dreamlike merging between melody and atonality would be THE REINCARNATION OF PETER PROUD, in my opinion.

I am curious, Onya, what aspect(s) of this ILLUSTRATED MAN didn't attract you?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



There's also vintage '68 Moog, wordless female vocalise, echoplexed flutes, and the sitar!



OK, you piqued my interest.



I am curious, Onya, what aspect(s) of this ILLUSTRATED MAN didn't attract you?


Honestly, I can't remember. I will have to listen to the samples again.

But I will reiterate, as I have elsewhere, it is frustrating when these labels provide samples of only like 5 or 6 tracks out of 30 and then I have to go elsewhere to sample the entire score before I buy it. I don't know why they can't give you a sample of everything like Amazon does.

I will revisit. Thanks for the nudge!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Boy, do I feel silly.

Not only are there audio samples of every track, but this is right up my alley.

Either I was in a weird mood the last time I listened (years ago) or I was mixing this up with another title.

Based on the samples, there is nothing not to like and everything to love!

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

The haunting vocalise will stick with me forever. As soon as I hear the phrase "The Illustrated Man," it starts playing in my head. Such a wonderfully nuanced score. Evocative from start to finish and a perfect compendium of Goldsmith's superlative 60s output. I really love Goldsmith's atonal writing. As a self-labeled serialist in his earlier days, he really knew how to compose atonally with a full understanding of the particular qualities associated with it. The intellectual meets the psychological with the result sometimes being quite emotionally devastating.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Boy, do I feel silly.

Not only are there audio samples of every track, but this is right up my alley.

Either I was in a weird mood the last time I listened (years ago) or I was mixing this up with another title.

Based on the samples, there is nothing not to like and everything to love!



That was a very nice post, sir.

 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2012 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Magnificent score for a not-so-magnificent movie. One of my favorite FSM releases.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2012 - 9:58 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Listened again tonight...great score.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I like the movie and accept its flaws. There's a lot to love about it. The score...mmmm. Fantastic!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I think Goldsmith had many sub-divisions in his score styles and ILLUSTRATED MAN exists in that place alongside things like SECONDS and CASSANDRA CROSSING. There is a warmth there, but it's icy cold. I know that makes no sense, but it's how I feel when hearing scores like that by him. There's melody. There's emotion. But it's somehow deathly and morose. No doubt Goldsmith meant it all the way. Whatever, it's damned effective and it lingers.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 9:09 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

There is a warmth there, but it's icy cold. I know that makes no sense, but it's how I feel when hearing scores like that by him. There's melody. There's emotion. But it's somehow deathly and morose. No doubt Goldsmith meant it all the way. Whatever, it's damned effective and it lingers.

It does make sense.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2012 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

This score is all over the map, dynamic-wise, style-wise, instrumentation-wise. It makes it a treat to listen to.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2013 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

SAE seems to be down to 5 copies. They might have a bunch more, for all I know. But just in case...now might be a good time to pick one up.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2016 - 3:34 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

As JG has been brought up recently in respect to his electronics for Logan's Run, I thought I'd post this YouTube trailer for The Illustrated Man - they carpeted the whole thing more or less with the electronics from the score:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TKBraBhzcY

and incidental music from a 1968 featurette:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MYTG8kbfo

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2016 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

As JG has been brought up recently in respect to his electronics for Logan's Run, I thought I'd post this YouTube trailer for The Illustrated Man - they carpeted the whole thing more or less with the electronics from the score:


The electronic section of The Illustrated Man is very much the direct predecessor of the Logan's Run synth style, although much less elaborate. They both reflect a sterile, plastic version of the future. I'm still miffed that Goldsmith didn't do Westworld. Mixing a similar moog world with cowboy themes would have just what he'd likely have done.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2016 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

What is Felicia's purpose in selecting Carl as a subject to be thrown into the deep end? I take it the main title vocal is representative of Felicia, the witch. The theme does not seem to be full of menace, though it definitely has a mournful quality.

Even though the film was panned, in the process of which Steiger's career appears be have been set back by quite a large margin (even though he was prepared to put up with a fair measure of inconvenience and exposure to bring Carl to life), how far does the music go to rescuing the picture, or does it not matter? Does the film sink, leaving the music to float? To me, the film is an oddball which very much stands out from the crowd.

Claire Bloom absolutely fits the image of the temptress. It's worth seeing the movie just to catch her exquisite beauty at this juncture.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

hate to bump the thread up over this kind of question, but I bought a used copy and the bottom side of disc looks like it was burned. Worse, you can see alot of concentric circles which reminds me of badly burned cdrs. However, some text markings on the bottom suggest a factory made disc. Does anyone recall this, or can check their disc for me?

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

hate to bump the thread up over this kind of question, but I bought a used copy and the bottom side of disc looks like it was burned. Worse, you can see alot of concentric circles which reminds me of badly burned cdrs. However, some text markings on the bottom suggest a factory made disc. Does anyone recall this, or can check their disc for me?

Just checked mine. Pristine.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2017 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

hate to bump the thread up over this kind of question, but I bought a used copy and the bottom side of disc looks like it was burned. Worse, you can see alot of concentric circles which reminds me of badly burned cdrs. However, some text markings on the bottom suggest a factory made disc. Does anyone recall this, or can check their disc for me?

Just checked mine. Pristine.


What does that mean?? Is it one smooth surface like a minted disc, no shading of any area indicating where the recording is?

 
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