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Crimson Tide was probably the moment that Zimmer took over the world. The Alabama music supplanted Horner's Bishop's Countdown as "Does this have to be in EVERY movie trailer? Yes? Ok..." I also remember reading a bunch of directors (at the moment I only remember Spielberg - hey, it's been 20 years!) just gushing about what a new sound he was bringing to movies. Tied specifically to this score.
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I might disagree with you with respect to The Lion King. I worked at Tower Records when that movie came out and the soundtrack album, which had a lot of Zimmer, was a blitz. Don't get me wrong, a lot of that was due to the songs, but the movie itself, and the music within it, were extremely popular and defining for a generation of kids who weren't old enough to see the R-rated fare we're talking about. I'm not saying Crimson Tide and The Rock didn't have the effect that you say they did… I'm just saying that The Lion King was just as much a part of the Zimmerization of Hollywood as those two scores.
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I might disagree with you with respect to The Lion King. I worked at Tower Records when that movie came out and the soundtrack album, which had a lot of Zimmer, was a blitz. Don't get me wrong, a lot of that was due to the songs, but the movie itself, and the music within it, were extremely popular and defining for a generation of kids who weren't old enough to see the R-rated fare we're talking about. I'm not saying Crimson Tide and The Rock didn't have the effect that you say they did… I'm just saying that The Lion King was just as much a part of the Zimmerization of Hollywood as those two scores. Ehhhh... I'm going to disagree. And I will admit off the bat that this is fairly subjective. I will in no way challenge you on the popularity of The Lion King. It was pretty much the last of Disney's soundtrack monsters wasn't it? I may be underestimating Pocahontas. (I loved Hercules and Hunchback m'self.) But I don't think The Lion King showed off Zimmer in the same way that Mermaid, Beast, or Aladdin showed off Menken. (Which was one of my chief complaints about the film.) I think there is more connective tissue between Point of No Return and Tide than Lion King. Lion King certainly propelled Zimmer to greater heights of popularity in the industry. But it was Tide that got everyone saying "MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THAT!" It's interesting that he never scored another Disney animated feature. (Did he?)
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It's interesting that he never scored another Disney animated feature. (Did he?) He did score DreamWorks' The Prince Of Egypt. He also scored The Road to El Dorado. And lots of other Dreamworks animated films. And for Disney he did Muppet Treasure Island and obviously those other pirate-y things.
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I strongly, stroooongly feel this way about THE FAN as well but you told us not to mention other scores (but seriously THE FAN is awesome). Would Love to get The Fan released in complete form and remastered along with Point of No Return and Backdraft.
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Feb 25, 2018 - 5:25 AM
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Martin B.
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Crimson Tide is a Disney film, so it won't be coming from La-La Land. No offense to Intrada, but I hate that anything Disney has to come from them. It is my own personal opinion that their remasterings are equal to the original soundtrack release, but not better. They more expand titles than improve the sound. (Please recognize that this is my opinion and you are free to disagree by all means. Just my own personal take! And I'm sure there are many examples where I'm wrong, but that just hasn't seemed to be the case for the titles that I've purchased.) But mainly, I hate that Intrada owns the opportunity for all disney-related titles because if they choose not to do something (for example Duck Tales the TV show) then nobody can do it. It's like they're squatting on all these titles. If they don't want to do something, let somebody else do it. Don't think they chose not to do Duck Tales, they tried to but couldn't due to licensing/disney/whatever. But yes, it is sad that there are so many titles that only Intrada can do, not because Intrada don't do a fantastic job but because there are so many titles that only they can do. Just look at the Armageddon thread. Only Intrada can do that one but it doesn't look like its coming any time soon. Could only get worse once Disney takes control of Fox if it means Fox joins the ranks of Mirrormax, etc which have to go through Disney and hence Intrada. Would be nice if say LLL could also get in at Disney, not even for Disney titles but access to titles from the other studios which come under the Disney umbrella.
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